Hey guys, I have looked around for a similar post but not found anything I wanted, besides, I want to know if this exact system will be able to fly primarily FS9 with brilliant frames (anything above 20, for me) and FSX with good frames, and stutters unnoticeable, with all the bells and whistles and sliders at least at a good looking level...I am trying to replace my current old (Windows 98!!!), slow, noisy, rusty and generally quite crap system for a brand spanking new one and this one fits the bill pretty well, especially at this price! :( What do you think? Here's their intro to it, with some specs:"Envizage present this brand new custom built AMD Phenom Quad Core 9950 (4 x 2.6Ghz Cores = 10.4Ghz) PC base unit complete with onboard ATI Radeon HD3200 graphics with up to 512mb of memory and support for ATI Hybrid Crossfire, 8GB of DDR2 800Mhz Memory, 22x CD & DVD re-writer drive, 500gb SATA 2 hard drive." The link to the product page.I know the video card is a little questionable but that can be sorted out, what about everything else? Would it, for instance, be able to run a PMDG 747 at Heathrow with MyTraffic/Ultimate Traffic with AI at 100%, UK2000 Heathrow Xtreme scenery, Active Sky, Ultimate Terrain and Flight Environment plus more (the latest addons) (...phew!), and still have reasonably smooth frames (15 or above - below that is where I personally notice) so I could land manually easily, and still see the runway whizzing past without it's motion breaking up? And what about FSX with all the similar bells and whistles, let alone out of the box? I would be ecstatic if it did - i'm fed up with trembling frames where ever I go! :( What about the future - will it last and be able to uphold good gameplay on future editions of MSFS (if there will be) and other intense shooter games released, with or without upgrades?It'd be great if I could have some feedback on this one guys, so I can become a hard-core pilot. :( Thanks a lot in advance!

Do not buy a PC from anyone that mis-represents technical facts. They are not technically knowledgeable and have no business building PCs. 4 cores @ 2.6GHz does not equal 10.4GHz.The graphics card in that PC is integrated, and not suitable for gaming at any level outside of casual web games. I suggest you look for another builder that is more reputable, and get something with a dedicated graphics card.

Do not buy a PC from anyone that mis-represents technical facts. They are not technically knowledgeable and have no business building PCs. 4 cores @ 2.6GHz does not equal 10.4GHz.The graphics card in that PC is integrated, and not suitable for gaming at any level outside of casual web games. I suggest you look for another builder that is more reputable, and get something with a dedicated graphics card.

... right, that burst my bubble! :( Is it still a good system though that fits my needs, ignoring the graphics card, and seller? I'll look elsewhere too, but I do think this looks good. Can you suggest a good place (not too expensive please!!!) to buy one similar?

... right, that burst my bubble! :( Is it still a good system though that fits my needs, ignoring the graphics card, and seller? I'll look elsewhere too, but I do think this looks good. Can you suggest a good place (not too expensive please!!!) to buy one similar?

In a word, no.Unfortunately, I don't know the UK market like I used to when I lived on that side of the pond, but these guys look like snake-oil salesmen.You can find a machine that'll run FS9 very well in those lower price ranges. FSX is a different story...you'll need strong middle to high-end gear to make FSX run smoothly.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Mike I live in the U.S. so can't recommend any retailers in the U.K. from firsthand experience, but I see that CyberPower sells gaming computers in the U.K. market and I do have a bit of experience with their PCs. Check out this page and see if anything fits your budget.

Build your own. For your info, the spec in my sig gives meFS9. 60fps+ everywhere, liquid framerates into the biggest airports like LAX and LHRFSX. Pretty good if I stay away from the cities. As a guide, PMDG 747 Virtual cockpit + Fly Tampa Kai Tak IGS13 approach = 15fpsI play FS9 99% anyway and it's heaven.

Right, :( that's given me a lot to think about, i'll post back with some new ideas soon.PS: flyhalf, you have Windows 7?!

Mike I live in the U.S. so can't recommend any retailers in the U.K. from firsthand experience, but I see that CyberPower sells gaming computers in the U.K. market and I do have a bit of experience with their PCs. Check out this page and see if anything fits your budget.

Great site TechguyMaxC! How does this one look? Which is better: AMD, or Intel; for MSFS and gaming in general (as well as reasonably decent amounts of internet use and quite a bit of varying work)?I really want this to be a long term, upgradable investment...

To be honest Mike, it does not look great. How much do you want to spend ? Lets work back from that. Generally I would say go intel, Nvidia, and build it yourself. ( but you will always find a different opinion) If that is beyond you Scan, mesh and overclockers all do great ready made PC's, ( similar to what cyberpower offer really). This one is pretty good as a starting point ( you can spec up the graphics card, the new GTX275 is cheap and good) : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....tm_medium=email I would say that for what you want, you will need to spend up to about

To be honest Mike, it does not look great. How much do you want to spend ? Lets work back from that. Generally I would say go intel, Nvidia, and build it yourself. ( but you will always find a different opinion) If that is beyond you Scan, mesh and overclockers all do great ready made PC's, ( similar to what cyberpower offer really). This one is pretty good as a starting point ( you can spec up the graphics card, the new GTX275 is cheap and good) : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....tm_medium=email I would say that for what you want, you will need to spend up to about

Hi Michael, well you can get a pretty good PC for around

OK, thanks Mark, i'll have a look and post back in due course :(

sigh... Would people seriously not buy from this one? (my initial choice) :( I'm sure they must have sold before and people been happy with their systems, after all their customer service enquiry response is pretty swift... :( I want this to be right, but if too many people agree with TechguyMaxC (I'm not patronising anyone, I respect all your opinions entirely... otherwise I'd have bought that PC already) then I will have to look at a more expensive one more seriously. :( It's just it took me so long to find this one.Cheers

Hi Mike, I just think you need to be realistic about the performance you will get from it. And the onboard graphics is a no no really. Perhaps, look at a similar spec PC but with a better graphics card. A budget is a budget after all. The one I pointed to a few posts up is a better PC I think, for the same money.

Right, thanks Mark,I'll take your word for it. That PC does look pretty good, a bit pricey but as I say, I want a long term investment. I'll make a decision/part decision and let you know! :( Anyway, looks like I'm gonna have to leave my original choice well alone! :( Thanks