try that in downtown NYC or LAX with a PMDG on ALL the settings I posted in the images in the tuning thread and then see what the frame rate is..

This is what I want to see too, though with Ultimate traffic II also running. If you still get good framerates in this environment, I'm buying a new computer just like yours.Seriously - Nick's scenario with heavy AI traffic is the real test for FS9 Airline types like me. If I can't fly into Aerosoft Heathrow (or similar) in the PMDG 744 at peak hour with >25 fps, FSX aint worth it.Bryn.

you can overclock the Core i7 975 to 5,2596MHz using a 29x multiplier and a 181.4MHz QPI base clock, along with a core voltage of 1.504V.

I assume that you mean 5.25GHz and not "5,2596MHz" (52GHz).I've read three articles on the 975 and none of them did reach 5GHz. Not even close.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-975,2318-3.htmlhttp://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...?i=3574&p=9http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...50_4.html#sect0A core voltage at 1.5V seems way too high.Is this OC to over 5GHz your own experience? On liquid nitrogen? What's your souce of information?

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Hi,I'll let you know, I will hopefully have all my AI reinstalled sometime today, if not today, tomorrow the latest. I'll run a test at KJFK, since that seems to be one of the worst places with KJFK, KEWR, KLGA in such close proximity.

This is what I want to see too, though with Ultimate traffic II also running. If you still get good framerates in this environment, I'm buying a new computer just like yours.Seriously - Nick's scenario with heavy AI traffic is the real test for FS9 Airline types like me. If I can't fly into Aerosoft Heathrow (or similar) in the PMDG 744 at peak hour with >25 fps, FSX aint worth it.Bryn.

Hi Extreme Systems had this posted. Here is the site.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=216495

I assume that you mean 5.25GHz and not "5,2596MHz" (52GHz).I've read three articles on the 975 and none of them did reach 5GHz. Not even close.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-975,2318-3.htmlhttp://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...?i=3574&p=9http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...50_4.html#sect0A core voltage at 1.5V seems way too high.Is this OC to over 5GHz your own experience? On liquid nitrogen? What's your souce of information?

Hi Extreme Systems had this posted. Here is the site.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=216495

OK, Thats 5.2GHz with CPU temp of -50C, liquid cooling. No practical use and I hope that no one will attempt to go for 5GHz without a proper liquid nitrogen cooling solution :(

you wont be using bloom in DX9.. you will soon discover that :( You can in DX10 as well as high water reflections.. in DX9 those features will crush perf like a rockVsync is not locked on this with that high of a framerate.. when Vsync is locked the frame rate may jump above the refresh rate of the monitor here and there but it wont stay there as it will run the monitors refresh rate.. that is why I assumed this was in DX10.. Bloom and the frames being shown suggest DX10 in use.. (checked DX10 Preview in the FSX graphics settings)My time is very limited right nowI dont know what you bought however if its a 920/940 on a Asus P6T and Vista64 you can follow this thread as it should get you where you need to behttp://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/Ya...m=1228522846/60start with post#65 and follow it through... read the thread first as it is setting up a Vista64 system on a Asus P6T and a 940 (same settings and proceedure other than your memory specs)make sure the memory you purchased is set up correctly by timing and speed via the BIOS.. replace your memory timing specs with those shown in the BIOS of that thread

You've done enough. Thanks.Here's what I will have next week:Asus P6T D V.2i7 975 Extreme6 gig of OCZ 1600EVGA GTX 285 Superclocked750 Watt PC Power Cooling2 RaptorsWin XP & Win 7

Hi,I believe Pelt cooling was used, not liquid nitrogen.

OK, Thats 5.2GHz with CPU temp of -50C, liquid cooling. No practical use and I hope that no one will attempt to go for 5GHz without a proper liquid nitrogen cooling solution :(

Hi,I believe Pelt cooling was used, not liquid nitrogen.

The Kingpin F1EE was used and after a search with google, this cooling solution is based on LN. Some pictures in this thread: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=288009I might be wrong, but being able to run the 975 at over 5GHz (!!!!) at -50C you need a very, very cold media. Sure a Pelt might be used to cool the liquid, but for sure it isn't water or air ;-)

You've done enough. Thanks.Here's what I will have next week:Asus P6T D V.2i7 975 Extreme6 gig of OCZ 1600EVGA GTX 285 Superclocked750 Watt PC Power Cooling2 RaptorsWin XP & Win 7

The only difference between what I posted and that thread and your parts is the 975That means all other BIOS settings will be the same except:BCLOCK will be 133 and not changedCPU RATIO (multiplier) is how the CPU is clocked upDRAM FREQUENCY will always be 1600UCLK FREQUENCY will always be 3200 (2xDRAM)DRAM Timing will be your memory timing all other settings and descriptions in how to clock are exactly the sameYou may wish to start at the beginning of that thread too and just read the entire thread first before starting anything.. I explained to that user who is a first time FSX user and clocker a lot of things about setup where the OS and FSX gets installed, etc.

Hi,I believe Pelt cooling was used, not liquid nitrogen.

that was LN2NO Pelt is going to drop a proc -50c

This is what I want to see too, though with Ultimate traffic II also running. If you still get good framerates in this environment, I'm buying a new computer just like yours.Seriously - Nick's scenario with heavy AI traffic is the real test for FS9 Airline types like me. If I can't fly into Aerosoft Heathrow (or similar) in the PMDG 744 at peak hour with >25 fps, FSX aint worth it.Bryn.

you DO have to give and take SOME100% Autogen, Scenery Complexity.. and in FSX 100% AI/airport traffic on a huge addon like Heathrow or NYC is WAY over the topIf thats what you are looking for I suggest you stick with FS9... but you dont know what you are missing visually. FS9 is the pits compared to a properly set up with addons FSXWhat I posted in this images in the tuning thread was to get the ball rolling so the BASE setup was correct.. the user must TUNE the system by backing down the critical settings as I discussed

This is what I want to see too, though with Ultimate traffic II also running. If you still get good framerates in this environment, I'm buying a new computer just like yours.Seriously - Nick's scenario with heavy AI traffic is the real test for FS9 Airline types like me. If I can't fly into Aerosoft Heathrow (or similar) in the PMDG 744 at peak hour with >25 fps, FSX aint worth it.Bryn.

Bryn,I get pretty good results into Heathrow even in heavy weather conditions with the MD-11 in 15 layers of ASA clouds, plus UTX night lighting, with AI air traffic (I don't use road traffic though) and extremely high settings. They are not >25 fps, but fps in FSX seems to be different from FS9. It's as if FSX gives more smoothness per frame. It's difficult to do a head-to-head comparison but as a very rough guess I'd say that my 18-22fps into Heathrow with FSX is no worse than 25-32fps in FS9 - and the overall superiority of the visuals is significant. This is with an overclocked E8600 and a GTX285 with some nicely tuned DDR3 RAM (thanks to Nick_N's help).I'm toying with the idea of posting a video of this as some people find it hard to believe that such low framerates translate into good, fluid flight. The trouble is that with Fraps, the framerate gets crippled. Even so, I might have a go.Having said all that, I'm not resting on my laurels: I've just ordered a new PC with an i7 975, which is why I'm interested to see Mike's results here.Tim

OK, Thats 5.2GHz with CPU temp of -50C, liquid cooling. No practical use and I hope that no one will attempt to go for 5GHz without a proper liquid nitrogen cooling solution :LMAO:

The other question is, will a 975 overclock any higher than a D0 920 or 950?Some have already mentioned that their 975

The other question is, will a 975 overclock any higher than a D0 920 or 950?Some have already mentioned that their 975

The other question is, will a 975 overclock any higher than a D0 920 or 950?Some have already mentioned that their 975

Very interesting information. I hope that we'll get more information on this soon. The 975 has an unlocked multiplier, but that alone can't justify the price for a 975.

Paying the extra $500.00 for the unlocked multiplier for superior overclocking potential is nothing new with Intel

you DO have to give and take SOME100% Autogen, Scenery Complexity.. and in FSX 100% AI/airport traffic on a huge addon like Heathrow or NYC is WAY over the top

Nick, completely agree. Even in FS9, there are tradeoffs. I think Airline FS types like the huge addon sceneries (like Heathrow), complex aircraft, and stacks of AI. That's my starting point in FS9 and then I tune around that. Using that as a starting point in FSX, even with everything else turned right down, it's no good.That's why I'm keen to see the i975 results. I want to shift to FSX, but I'd really want to keep (and hopefuly improve) the enjoyment I get out of the airline simulation in FS9.Cheers,Bryn.