August 24, 200916 yr Could anyone owning the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke confirm if they also have a small play ^ deadzone in the middle position of the yoke. I am not talking about a deadzone setttable inside FSX but rather a distinctive mechaniocal play of the yoke even when turned off and disconnected. As if the yoke is slightly wiggling left and right before it actually moves along its axis. I dont know how to word it otherwise...Thank you,Alex
August 25, 200916 yr Could anyone owning the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke confirm if they also have a small play ^ deadzone in the middle position of the yoke. I am not talking about a deadzone setttable inside FSX but rather a distinctive mechaniocal play of the yoke even when turned off and disconnected. As if the yoke is slightly wiggling left and right before it actually moves along its axis. I dont know how to word it otherwise...Thank you,AlexHi Alex,I don't think you have the same problem. But just in case I'm wrong, here is my story with the Saitek yoke. I have owned it for two days. I had a problem getting it dialed in due to excessive play in the aileron axis. Adjusting the deadzone in FSX didn't help. I found the aileron pot was not functioning correctly. Using FSUIPC I was able to confirm the signal coming out of the pot was sticking at a single value when turning to the left. That gave me a pretty significant dead zone in the bank axis. I have emailed Saitek tech support but no response yet. I don't have any mechanical play though. The pots seem to engage with little or no play. What you describe might be an adjustment you can do yourself. Have you contacted Saitek? And, if so, did they answer? "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 25, 200916 yr Hi Alex,I don't think you have the same problem. But just in case I'm wrong, here is my story with the Saitek yoke. I have owned it for two days. I had a problem getting it dialed in due to excessive play in the aileron axis. Adjusting the deadzone in FSX didn't help. I found the aileron pot was not functioning correctly. Using FSUIPC I was able to confirm the signal coming out of the pot was sticking at a single value when turning to the left. That gave me a pretty significant dead zone in the bank axis. I have emailed Saitek tech support but no response yet. I don't have any mechanical play though. The pots seem to engage with little or no play. What you describe might be an adjustment you can do yourself. Have you contacted Saitek? And, if so, did they answer?UPDATE: Saitek tech support got back to me and provided instructions regarding the deletion of registry entries and then re-calibrating. It seems to have fixed the problem. I suspect the reason I was having the problem was related to my using the CH Products throttle quadrant and not connecting the Saitek quadrant. I have ordered an additional Saitek quadrant. More $$$$. Ain't this fun? "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 25, 200916 yr UPDATE: Saitek tech support got back to me and provided instructions regarding the deletion of registry entries and then re-calibrating. It seems to have fixed the problem. I suspect the reason I was having the problem was related to my using the CH Products throttle quadrant and not connecting the Saitek quadrant. I have ordered an additional Saitek quadrant. More $$$$. Ain't this fun?Just curious 1586230CFI, did you have the CHTQ connected directly to the Saitek yoke? I also have the Saitek yoke with two Saitek TQ's connected through the yoke. I also have a CHTQ but always left that connected directly to the computer's USB port. So I have not experienced either problem as mentioned on the this thread.Jim D.
August 25, 200916 yr Author Hi Alex,I don't think you have the same problem. But just in case I'm wrong, here is my story with the Saitek yoke. I have owned it for two days. I had a problem getting it dialed in due to excessive play in the aileron axis. Adjusting the deadzone in FSX didn't help. I found the aileron pot was not functioning correctly. Using FSUIPC I was able to confirm the signal coming out of the pot was sticking at a single value when turning to the left. That gave me a pretty significant dead zone in the bank axis. I have emailed Saitek tech support but no response yet. I don't have any mechanical play though. The pots seem to engage with little or no play. What you describe might be an adjustment you can do yourself. Have you contacted Saitek? And, if so, did they answer?Yes I heard about that registry fix - my case is not the same as I have not even installed the yoke in FSX. What I am describing is a strictly mechanicl plaz in the middle on the aileron axis. Just wanted to check if that was normal. How should I go about contacting Saitek support?Thx,Alex
August 25, 200916 yr Yes I heard about that registry fix - my case is not the same as I have not even installed the yoke in FSX. What I am describing is a strictly mechanicl plaz in the middle on the aileron axis. Just wanted to check if that was normal. How should I go about contacting Saitek support?Thx,AlexHi Alex,I used this email address: [email protected] "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 25, 200916 yr Just curious 1586230CFI, did you have the CHTQ connected directly to the Saitek yoke? I also have the Saitek yoke with two Saitek TQ's connected through the yoke. I also have a CHTQ but always left that connected directly to the computer's USB port. So I have not experienced either problem as mentioned on the this thread.Jim D.Hi Jim,I had the CHTQ connected directly to the computer's USB port. I think the problem in my case was the STQ was never connected. When I started FSX I would have to cycle the CHTQ to get the throttle down to idle becase the FSX was getting a signal from the STQ that was reading about half throttle. Once I connect the STQ and calibrated it, the phantom throttle issue went away.How are you doing with adjusting to the "detent" in the Saitek yoke? That's the only thing that I don't like about it. I'm hoping I can learn to ignore it. "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 25, 200916 yr Hi Jim,How are you doing with adjusting to the "detent" in the Saitek yoke? That's the only thing that I don't like about it. I'm hoping I can learn to ignore it.I'm sure you have already done the following, but it doesn't bother me.The detent in the Saitek is treated as a button or switch. So to configure it for reverse thrusters in FSUIPC, use the button or switches tab, check the "key" assignment box, move the throttle lever into the detent and make the assignment to the F2 key. Also check the box for function to repeat as long as the 'button' is engaged. Repeat for the other thrust levers. Works fine. In the CH unit it is a part of the axis function. The pots in the CH are a little worn and it was becoming more difficult to set engine idle without engaging the reverse thrusters. Jim D.
August 26, 200916 yr I'm sure you have already done the following, but it doesn't bother me.The detent in the Saitek is treated as a button or switch. So to configure it for reverse thrusters in FSUIPC, use the button or switches tab, check the "key" assignment box, move the throttle lever into the detent and make the assignment to the F2 key. Also check the box for function to repeat as long as the 'button' is engaged. Repeat for the other thrust levers. Works fine. In the CH unit it is a part of the axis function. The pots in the CH are a little worn and it was becoming more difficult to set engine idle without engaging the reverse thrusters. Jim D.Yeah, I did get that figured out. I was talking about the detent you feel in the roll and pitch axis of the yoke. The center detent. How are you doing with that? I am hoping it gets less noticable over time. Might be wishful thinking though. "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 26, 200916 yr Yeah, I did get that figured out. I was talking about the detent you feel in the roll and pitch axis of the yoke. The center detent. How are you doing with that? I am hoping it gets less noticable over time. Might be wishful thinking though.I don't feel any real difference from my older CH Virtual Pro yoke. I like the Saitek yoke much better.Jim D.
August 26, 200916 yr I don't feel any real difference from my older CH Virtual Pro yoke. I like the Saitek yoke much better.Jim D.Thanks Jim. That's good to hear. "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
August 26, 200916 yr Author Hi people,Another relevant question here: I read at several forums that one surefire way to prevent the phantom keypress issue is not installing the Saitek software. Does it refer to the drivers on the Saitek disks or the SST software. Do I need to install the drivers from the CDs at all (separately for the yoke, the extra quadrant I bought and the pedals) or would Windows and FSX handle them automatically. I also read a post on the Saitek forum I believe that said that the drivers from the disks are not necessary at all...Thanks for your experiences on this,Alex
August 27, 200916 yr Hi people,Another relevant question here: I read at several forums that one surefire way to prevent the phantom keypress issue is not installing the Saitek software. Does it refer to the drivers on the Saitek disks or the SST software. Do I need to install the drivers from the CDs at all (separately for the yoke, the extra quadrant I bought and the pedals) or would Windows and FSX handle them automatically. I also read a post on the Saitek forum I believe that said that the drivers from the disks are not necessary at all...Thanks for your experiences on this,AlexInstall the drivers only and DO NOT INSTALL the SST software. If you need to get creative in programming your controls, purchase a registered version of FSUIPC (it's worth every penny).Regards,Bob
August 27, 200916 yr Install the drivers only and DO NOT INSTALL the SST software. If you need to get creative in programming your controls, purchase a registered version of FSUIPC (it's worth every penny).Regards,BobI agree with Bob. FSUIPC is the only way to go. Although it's probable that windows would recognize the new hardware, the drivers would add insurance as to the operation. Jim D.
August 27, 200916 yr Author Thanks - actually I received the following reply from Saitek to the same question: 'Hi,I still believe that piece of advice is pretty incorrect - it's just something that's picked up speed as people talk on the net. Windows will handle them as they are (as it will for any USB game controller) so you don't need to install the drivers, unless you want to use the programming software.'Now I am scratching my head:)
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