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What's the hardest part of the J41 for you to learn?

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Yes Vangelis, I am aware of that procedure. I was just thinking al little bit because James told about his final turns when he was too high and fast and wanted to do an steep approach :(By the Way, thanks for the explanation about the EGT & TTL stuff

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Alexander Barger

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Yes Vangelis, I am aware of that procedure. I was just thinking al little bit because James told about his final turns when he was too high and fast and wanted to do an steep approach :(By the Way, thanks for the explanation about the EGT & TTL stuff
Ah, I see. That's a free turbine trick though to add drag. Does not work with this plane. No free turbine !Vangelis

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roger - so we have to buy a parachute to slow down early :( just kidding :(

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Alexander Barger

There are times where I have slowed to 200KIAS at TOD when speed management was critical. Slowing her down in descent is otherwise difficult.For quick descents, you can drop flaps to 9 at 200 and once flaps are out, drop the gear. Now she will drop like a rock but not accelerate.

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There are times where I have slowed to 200KIAS at TOD when speed management was critical. Slowing her down in descent is otherwise difficult.For quick descents, you can drop flaps to 9 at 200 and once flaps are out, drop the gear. Now she will drop like a rock but not accelerate.
Tell me about it! Going down the descent profile on the tutorial flight, I found myself slightly fast than what I should been going. The aircraft isn't the easiest to manage in terms on throttle and altitude. Pretty much, the pilot is the VNAV on this plane.It really goes to show that planning ahead does pay off. Better luck next time I suppose. I won't be giving up the tutorial flight until I can find a handful of realistic routes to fly solo.

Erik L.

i am ###### of with most of this aircraft,initially getting used to 3d cockpit,took some time but still prefer the 2d ,starting the engine,that took me one whole day,now i have mastered it and it is quite easy,getting to fms is the next hurdle, the problem is that my tutorial flight fms gets stuck in the flight plan page so i have not progressed beyond this page trying to find some solutions,it never took me so much time to fly md-11 or 747, however trying to get used to j41 is not easy,may be the sudden change to 3d cockpit is what puts me off the most,god knows whats going to happen when i get this one of the ground,the speed management trying to land and shutting the engines without blowing it of ,pmdg seems to have made this aircraft extremely realistic ,a fact that must be appreciated.however getting some more pages of help in fms may be appreciatedvivek

For me the hardest thing is remembering to hit 'Alt Sel' when changing altitude. I've become far too used to all those nice systems that do this by default in other aircraft as soon as you change the altitude target. I've lost count the number of times I've found the aircraft happily sailing through an altitude I had dialled in - I'm sure it would scare the hell out of you in real life with hilly terrain beneath you as you're head down reading an approach plate, for example!James

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For me the hardest thing is remembering to hit 'Alt Sel' when changing altitude. I've become far too used to all those nice systems that do this by default in other aircraft as soon as you change the altitude target. I've lost count the number of times I've found the aircraft happily sailing through an altitude I had dialled in - I'm sure it would scare the hell out of you in real life with hilly terrain beneath you as you're head down reading an approach plate, for example!James
Don't worry, I did this quite a bit when we were testing haha... Definitely a good way to cause a CFIT accident in the real world though.

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...it never took me so much time to fly md-11 or 747...
You guys are getting way to use to these modern, new fangled, wisamagig, automated glass cockpits. The J41 will really test your "pilotage" skills. You should find that the model will go a long way in helping you hone your piloting skills. :( We may find that the J41 is a one of those products that really separates the "pilots" from the "system managers". :( Now ducking for cover... :(

George Morris

 

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We may find that it really separates the "pilots" from the "system managers". :(
I was a system manager and I'm not afraid to admit it. :(

The hardest part for me is manually doing what the autopilot *should* be doing, VNAV.It's a lot more hands on and let's you interact more with the autopilot. I truly like that fact that you must manually set your speed and VS at nearly all stages of flight (except cruise). The other hard part, not really J41 flying related, is finding proper flight plans! I've only been doing the tutorial flight and want to expand to more routes and get a deeper feel of how the FMS works and how I can program it manually at all times. To me, the FMS isn't much of a problem, you just have to know what's behind every key stroke and with practice, you can program it with your eyes closed. It's all routine if you ask me.

Erik L.

I was a system manager and I'm not afraid to admit it. :(
Good one Mike! I was in between and not afraid to admit it. :( On the serious side, the J41 has helped me brush the rust off of many of the r/w procedures I use.

George Morris

 

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If you follow the tutorial, there is a step 4) on page 47 where you activate navigation on the first leg of your flight plan. If you do that, you don't have to use the direct key.
Hmm. I am not able to get the auto pilot NAV funtion to work. I did the above (at least I thought I had done it right), but still no NAV function. This was with a flight plan I entered manually per the instructions. :( I'll have to try both ways tonight and see if I can get it to work.On the plus side, I can now start the engines in my sleep. :( JerryT

Jerry,Make sure you selected LNAV on the EHSI display controller. If you don't do that, NAV mode won't follow the FMS path.

I think the hardest part for me was getting used to the VC being a 2d panel man. The clarity of it makes it quite easy though I must admit.I already selected taxi power on final and was ok till I selected reverse to deploy the spoilers... burn baby burn... spoiler of sorts, spoiled my engines lol.Making sure to arm the altitude as others say as well and remembering NOT to whack the throttles to idle on the joystick... Autothrottle, just say NO.A beauty to hand fly though I must admit trimming is a bit coarse so very gently does it now. Real quality and the sound inside is spot on from my memory of it :( John Ellison p.s. I hope the fms has NOTHING to do with the gps in fsx as the gps shows some fms fixes as 4000+ miles away when to a fms waypoint that's not in fsx.

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