Geoff,It's not about reality or sim here. The plane, when taxiing at normal taxi speed, bounces up and down like a low-rider car on crack...and eventually the bounce gets so crazy that the front wheel goes into the pavement and the plane crashes. This has nothing to do with w/ realism....it's a obvious bug. (it's actually pretty funny to watch....think of a horse standing on its back legs....that's what the plane does). I had the same bug w/ their last release; and even though Carenado issued us a patch, the bounce is still there. The only way to fix it is by going into slew mode as soon as the bouncing starts, wait a few seconds for the plane to "settle" down...and continue. It breaks the immersion factor, but at least it works. But other than this bug, the plane is awesome in the air....so it's not too bad of an issue. However, an obvious bug like this shouldn't be there on release date. It's obvious Carenado does not do any beta testing w/ their FS9 releases...an

a picture is worth a thousand words right? :)taxiing at normal speed, normal weight, everything normal...and the bouncing starts (i'm a real world pilot too...and this is definitely not normal!)now the bouncing gets harder and even the back wheels start to hop (funny to watch...looks like a wild animal trying to get out of its harness). Also notice the extreme spring compression on the back wheels...this plane is bouncing hard! plane in full bounce and will eventually dig itself into the pavement...(which happened 2-3 seconds after this screenshot was taken)hope this clearly shows what this bug is about. I think some people are getting confused and thinks it's "pilot error" or something that occurs from a hard landing. It's none of that....this happens during normal taxiing... (at first i thought it might be a CG issue...but it's not. The plane will do this with no weight, or max weight) -feng

a picture is worth a thousand words right? :)taxiing at normal speed, normal weight, everything normal...and the bouncing starts (i'm a real world pilot too...and this is definitely not normal!)

There's nothing wrong with it.... The plane is just eager to fly :( :( :((Sorry, I couldn't resist)

There's nothing wrong with it.... The plane is just eager to fly :( :( :((Sorry, I couldn't resist)

Must be a fs9 thing then-it doesn't do this in fsx...I'd suggest the legal owners contact Carenado.

Hello,

Must be a fs9 thing then-it doesn't do it in fsx

Yes it must be a new easter egg .. the FS9 Carenado dance ..... Anyway .. one can wonder what is more easy to fix ... the plane or FS9 ?Regards.Gus.

By the way Feng-what is normal taxi speed? As you know a 150 will do the same thing-even while tied down if the wind is high enough and you give a little back pressure...

Select the "Y" key and check the static height/pitch of the Seneca. Not even out by a little..waaaaaaaayy out Clearly not been checked at all.Still that's easily fixed...and she sure is purty. :(

By the way Feng-what is normal taxi speed? As you know a 150 will do the same thing-even while tied down if the wind is high enough and you give a little back pressure...

Again, this is NOT a pilot thing Geoff. It's a very obvious bug. I think you still think that somehow this is related to how to plane is operated. Trust me, it's a bug. It'll happen w/ zero wind and minimum forward speed. It'll even happen if you bring the throttle do idle, the plane stops all forward movement, but continues to bounce up and down like a Gangsta car on crazy hydraulics... I think the only way for some of you to understand is by watching a video of it. And yes, this does not happen in FSX; it's in FS9 only. Guys, this is BUG...stop thinking it has anything to do w/ pilot error. If you can make this happen in real life, then you'll win a prize for inventing anti-gravity! :) cuz the darn plane will bounce higher and higher...as if someone is pulling a string from up above! And yes, we LEGAL owners have contacted Carenado...they made a patch, but it didn't fix the problem for some people...myself included.-feng

Again, this is NOT a pilot thing Geoff. It's a very obvious bug. I think you still think that somehow this is related to how to plane is operated. Trust me, it's a bug. It'll happen w/ zero wind and minimum forward speed. It'll even happen if you bring the throttle do idle, the plane stops, but continues to bounce like a Gangsta car...lolI think the only way for some of you to understand is by watching a video of it. And yes, this does not happen in FSX; it's a FS9 BUG. Guys, this is BUG...stop thinking it has anything to do w/ pilot error. If you can make this happen in real life, then you'll win a prize for inventing anti-gravity! :) cuz the darn plane will bounce higher and higher...as if someone is pulling a string from up above! And yes, we LEGAL owners have contacted Carenado...they made a patch, but it didn't fix the problem for some people...myself included.-feng

I'll trust you Feng-I just first like to rule out pilot error first which I find is usually 85% of complaints -especially with a heading on the thread like this one.Again, this doesn't happen on the fsx version-I wonder if there are simple settings in the fsx version which could easily be applied to the fs9 to help out.

I just don't understand why Carenado keeps releasing planes like this. I mean the fact that it's an easy fix (apparently) is to me even more damning. Why would they not fix it prior to releasing the plane?

I'll trust you Feng-I just first like to rule out pilot error first which I find is usually 85% of complaints -especially with a heading on the thread like this one.Again, this doesn't happen on the fsx version-I wonder if there are simple settings in the fsx version which could easily be applied to the fs9 to help out.

Geofa, you don't seem to be listening. This is a known bug that has appeared in the last three FS9 version releases from Carenado. It's not a "pilot error" issue and it doesn't happen in FSX at all.

I'll trust you Feng-I just first like to rule out pilot error first which I find is usually 85% of complaints -especially with a heading on the thread like this one.Again, this doesn't happen on the fsx version-I wonder if there are simple settings in the fsx version which could easily be applied to the fs9 to help out.

:) thanks man.I've tried a bunch of solutions....and did notice some improvements (this is after the patch was applied):- change terrain setting in FS9.cfg to 20 seems to help (i had mine on 21)- appears to happen at payware airports most of the time, so i just fly from default to default- keep the plane lightly loaded- and since this only happens during taxi, i just start the flight from the active to avoid taxiing, and when i arrive and touchdown, i end the flight once off the active.again, this plane is BEAUTIFUL and performs awesome while in the air. So this bug doesn't effect me much. However, it is still not cool that Carenado released payware w/ such an obvious bug... -feng

Geofa, you don't seem to be listening. This is a known bug that has appeared in the last three FS9 version releases from Carenado. It's not a "pilot error" issue and it doesn't happen in FSX at all.Zevious-I am listening.As I mentioned-I like to rule out pilot error first which is usually 85% of complaints.The only reason I looked at this thread was the title which Tom needed to step in on. I wonder if the last three releases were made first for fsx and then ported to fs9-possibly something in the porting being the problem?

... I wonder if the last three releases were made first for fsx and then ported to fs9-possibly something in the porting being the problem?

that has been suspected by some...

Just a question-I have about 500 hours right seat time as a safety pilot in an Arrow.I have yet to see a landing from my friend flying it that doesn't clunk down.So a question-are your landings based on experience or on what is expected? Is the "fix" reality or imagined reality?I heard complaints about the Seneca too-and for me it was right on the money from the start. In fact the third patch made it imho Mcdonald's fs handling vs. more real handling that it had before-but that is my personal opinion.

Geofa I have to agree with you on this one although there seems to be a real problem with the FS9 versions versus what's been produced for FSX...

I'm curious, does this thing take around 110 kts to get off the ground when you have the trim set? Or is that still a FS9 "bug"? I haven't bought the last 2 overpriced offering from them. Vote with your pocketbook.Baker