Again thank you to everyone who has shared their concerns with the QW 757. This sort of provides a balance between the serious system sim aircraft package and the super lite versions that can be found. Some days you might not feel like breaking out the 300 page or more volumes of instructions and would rather takeoff, engage the fmc and go. However QW provides a quite a bit of documentation too. I just need to balance between the best of two worlds when considering the QW and CS products. The PW sound set in QW at high power settings almost puts a chill down my spine. Each flyer will have his/her own desire. Has anyone setup their aircraft with the retrofit instrument panel? I think this is the first time this option has been provided to the buyer. I only ran into real issues when I ended a flight and selected a new 757 on the menu. Upon return to the aircraft I noticed the gauges were gone, the main landing gear were gone, nose gear was turned to an extreme left side, flaps were fully deployed and spoilers were extended. I know I should move these comments to a faq forum or something, but just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this unusual activity. Otherwise, I need to figure out how to get the EICAS readings larger and readable. Selecting the magnification gauges does not help.

Hi Keith,Thanks for taking the time for making this informative post for our fellow flightsim enthusiasts here at AVSIM.I appreciate the enthusiasm regarding the sounds man, hearing the RR and PW powered 757s across the street everyday... I'm very happy with them.Regarding the retrofit panel, you are absolutely correct, this is a flight sim first. A very similar flightdeck is being used by ABX 762 freighters and American Airlines has ordered their flightdecks to be retrofitted with this new layout as well. AA currently has one aircraft in the fleet with this retrofit layout. :( Take a look :http://www.flickr.com/photos/flyforfun/301.../in/set-395721/Regarding the model issue, think you could post that in our support forum so our model guys could take a look at it? The quicker we see these, the quicker we can work on addressing them for SP1 or any hot fixes in the future.Thanks,Emil

Emil,I appreciate the response here. I did take a look at the retrofit photo. Thanks! I believe this layout was standard for the 767-400. Anyhow, as soon as I get my registration finalized I will share the modeling issue. It appears on the NWA repaint in my photo but not on the House Colors 757-300, so it may be related to the livery manager or the livery download from the QW site. Thank you,Keith

Nice to see the Cost Index matter so much. I had put in 50 and wondered why I was poking along at 240 knots in cruise. I bumped it up to 190 and zoom! Mach .77! Also been playing with holds. For a lighter product, the FMC is pretty impressive. Don't get me wrong, it isn't quite up there with complex sims, but it is getting the job done so far.Support is fantastic. They have a gouge written by a pilot that covers flying the 757 in a nutshell. I'd have paid $45 just to read that. Things I have considered mysteries ever since I bought the CS 757 were finally explained -- like how to use the thrust management controls. My CS757 has a new stablemate, and I think they're going to get along well. I'll post a few screenshots in the appropriate forum. This is a beauty.My favorite livery so far is the retro American Airlines. Livery adding and loading the aircraft couldn't be simpler, too.

Sounds like we really have something of interest here! As I read through the posts I haven't really spotted an outline of what type of systems capabilities the QW 757 offers. I was used to flying in the PSS 757 in FS9, but haven't flown it since I moved to FSX. I also own both FS9 and FSX version of LDS 767 and the FS9 PMDG 747-400s, so I generally know how to deal with complexity. Can someone who has a few flights on the QW maybe list an a/c of comparable depth/complexity (doesn't have to be one I listed) to give us all an idea of about what it's on par with?I expect a/c I purchase to be able to engage in full FMC functionality, including SID/STAR (which I understand it does), holds, enroute modifications, full VNAV, etc. I am interested operating my aircraft like a competent pilot. I'm not interested in failure modeling. While I'd enjoy failure modeling I don't have sufficient training to feel confident I could do it well and I'd rather enjoy hand-flying a tight-in visual approach than having a hydraulics failure at FL360.Also, what's this about tweaks to get CS 757 to work right? I was planning on picking up the CS when it goes on sale this evening, but sounds like maybe I need to understand what I'm getting in a little more depth before I dive in, even for $12 or so.

Sounds like we really have something of interest here! As I read through the posts I haven't really spotted an outline of what type of systems capabilities the QW 757 offers. I was used to flying in the PSS 757 in FS9, but haven't flown it since I moved to FSX. I also own both FS9 and FSX version of LDS 767 and the FS9 PMDG 747-400s, so I generally know how to deal with complexity. Can someone who has a few flights on the QW maybe list an a/c of comparable depth/complexity (doesn't have to be one I listed) to give us all an idea of about what it's on par with?I expect a/c I purchase to be able to engage in full FMC functionality, including SID/STAR (which I understand it does), holds, enroute modifications, full VNAV, etc. I am interested operating my aircraft like a competent pilot. I'm not interested in failure modeling. While I'd enjoy failure modeling I don't have sufficient training to feel confident I could do it well and I'd rather enjoy hand-flying a tight-in visual approach than having a hydraulics failure at FL360.Also, what's this about tweaks to get CS 757 to work right? I was planning on picking up the CS when it goes on sale this evening, but sounds like maybe I need to understand what I'm getting in a little more depth before I dive in, even for $12 or so.

You should read their features on their website as well as the manual. This a not a complex a/c. If that is what you are looking for, go with CS. The QW is basicly a 'jump in and go plane. There is a FMC but it is limited, much more info on their forums. After taking one short flight, I can tell you that the sound pack alone is worth the money !

Sounds like we really have something of interest here! As I read through the posts I haven't really spotted an outline of what type of systems capabilities the QW 757 offers. I was used to flying in the PSS 757 in FS9, but haven't flown it since I moved to FSX. I also own both FS9 and FSX version of LDS 767 and the FS9 PMDG 747-400s, so I generally know how to deal with complexity. Can someone who has a few flights on the QW maybe list an a/c of comparable depth/complexity (doesn't have to be one I listed) to give us all an idea of about what it's on par with?I expect a/c I purchase to be able to engage in full FMC functionality, including SID/STAR (which I understand it does), holds, enroute modifications, full VNAV, etc. I am interested operating my aircraft like a competent pilot. I'm not interested in failure modeling. While I'd enjoy failure modeling I don't have sufficient training to feel confident I could do it well and I'd rather enjoy hand-flying a tight-in visual approach than having a hydraulics failure at FL360.Also, what's this about tweaks to get CS 757 to work right? I was planning on picking up the CS when it goes on sale this evening, but sounds like maybe I need to understand what I'm getting in a little more depth before I dive in, even for $12 or so.

Please take a look at our manual which is available free of charge.It's 170 pages and is very straight forward, there are bookmarks so you can flip through it and read the sections you want to see.http://www.mediafire.com/file/yn5zikvw1om/...s%20Manual2.pdfEmil

Jay- I have looked at their website- perhaps not in close enough detail *shrugs*- but didn't seem to find what I was looking for.Emil- thanks for the info, I'll definitely take a look at the manual. I'm sure that will answer the questions I have!

Quality Wings 757 has been released. Quality Wings 757

Dont bother with this ''Lite'' version.2/3 of the switches aren't modeled and dont work...eye candy but lacks functionality.

CS 757 should be good for you at 4.3. or 4.4. I say that because 4.4 introduced violent wing-rocking for me so I went back to 4.3. In the past there were lots of fixes for rocking etc. but that doesn't seem to be as much of an issue now. If 4.4 is the new standard, I don't know if you could go back to 4.3 though. Apparently I am in the tiny minority that is having problems like that with 4.4. All I can say is that for the price it will probably work just fine for you, but I'll not deny the CS 757 can be quirky. I have it, flew it last night, actually, with complicated procedures from Sao Paolo to Santa Cruz's Viru Viru International. Worked like a charm despite some really nasty weather REX was throwing at me.Okay, about the QW. The FMC is not full-featured, but handles a surprising amount for a lighter product. It does do holds. The navdata is not as complete as what I find in Navigraph for my CS 757, and while you can have altitude constraints I'm not warranting it would handle the more complex procedures. As an example, the same STAR for Viru Viru that was handled by the CS 757 last night was not included in the navdata and the QW today on the same flight was at a loss for how to use a procedure. That's where vectors come in handy, and I imagine the target audience for this airplane does not have a large collection of charts.It is not as complete operationally as the CS, still less the LDS, but that's not what it is for. It is meant to be a simplified, good-looking airplane that lets you do what it takes to fly from one place to another and have fun. It is not a procedural simulator. For instance, the fuel pumps are considered to be on, so if you want to start manually, just turn the APU knob, push your center bleed air button and isolation button and turn the starter knob. That's all. The fuel lever even flips up automatically for you. It is simple. If you enjoy the flying part, sticking to a schedule, occasionally hand-flying (it is very nice in that department) and greasing landings, you ought to enjoy it. If you want the satisfaction of working your hydraulics right before you can deploy your flaps, and enjoy poring over 300 page manuals, it probably isn't for you, unless you're looking for a diversion.Early adopters are going to eat some bugs, no doubt about that. They seem to be be working on them, though.So it is definitely more than the default airplanes, and definitely limited compared to the complex airplanes. It is a flier's airplane, not a manager's. I am having fun with it and am anxious for them to stomp most of the remaining bugs.

CS 757 should be good for you at 4.3. or 4.4. I say that because 4.4 introduced violent wing-rocking for me so I went back to 4.3. In the past there were lots of fixes for rocking etc. but that doesn't seem to be as much of an issue now. If 4.4 is the new standard, I don't know if you could go back to 4.3 though. Apparently I am in the tiny minority that is having problems like that with 4.4. All I can say is that for the price it will probably work just fine for you, but I'll not deny the CS 757 can be quirky. I have it, flew it last night, actually, with complicated procedures from Sao Paolo to Santa Cruz's Viru Viru International. Worked like a charm despite some really nasty weather REX was throwing at me.Okay, about the QW. The FMC is not full-featured, but handles a surprising amount for a lighter product. It does do holds. The navdata is not as complete as what I find in Navigraph for my CS 757, and while you can have altitude constraints I'm not warranting it would handle the more complex procedures. As an example, the same STAR for Viru Viru that was handled by the CS 757 last night was not included in the navdata and the QW today on the same flight was at a loss for how to use a procedure. That's where vectors come in handy, and I imagine the target audience for this airplane does not have a large collection of charts.It is not as complete operationally as the CS, still less the LDS, but that's not what it is for. It is meant to be a simplified, good-looking airplane that lets you do what it takes to fly from one place to another and have fun. It is not a procedural simulator. For instance, the fuel pumps are considered to be on, so if you want to start manually, just turn the APU knob, push your center bleed air button and isolation button and turn the starter knob. That's all. The fuel lever even flips up automatically for you. It is simple. If you enjoy the flying part, sticking to a schedule, occasionally hand-flying (it is very nice in that department) and greasing landings, you ought to enjoy it. If you want the satisfaction of working your hydraulics right before you can deploy your flaps, and enjoy poring over 300 page manuals, it probably isn't for you, unless you're looking for a diversion.Early adopters are going to eat some bugs, no doubt about that. They seem to be be working on them, though.So it is definitely more than the default airplanes, and definitely limited compared to the complex airplanes. It is a flier's airplane, not a manager's. I am having fun with it and am anxious for them to stomp most of the remaining bugs.

Tim,Regarding the navdata, for the time being you guys are gonna have to bear with us here. It comes with 0912, but that will only be temporary until we can get full Navigraph support... which is currently a work in progress.We contacted them a few months prior to the release but they did not respond to any of our requests, I guess they wanted to see a product first.But the good news is, they've acknowledged us and hopefully we'll be supported soon.http://forum.navigraph.com/forum/default.a...osts&t=1611The growing pains of a new company... :(

Congratulations - not for you excellent skills but for voicing your opinion and misrepresenting it as fact.I don't want to read a 300 page manual for every aircraft that I want to fly. Why is this so incredibly hard to comprehend?I know I am not alone. We are the silent majority.

I couldn't care less what so called majority you think you fall under. You don't need to read 300 page manuals to figure out how to operate a 757 or 747. You just need to follow the tutorials to learn the airplane.

I couldn't care less what so called majority you think you fall under. You don't need to read 300 page manuals to figure out how to operate a 757 or 747. You just need to follow the tutorials to learn the airplane.

While I can't speak for him, I didn't feel the other poster wasn't interested in engaging in a tutorial but maybe just doesn't want to be required to pressurize and turn a particular hydraulics knob into the correct position in order to start his a/c. I don't completely agree that the tutorial will provide all answers. If a problem arises, like an IRS out of alignment, referencing other parts of the manual the simmer may not be interested may be required lest they start over again completely.Tim- Thanks a lot for the thoughtful and concise comparison. I do appreciate the time you took to summarize. Despite it's quirkiness maybe CS is the better option for me. I have 22hrs or so to make up my mind, but the price sure is right!

CS 757 should be good for you at 4.3. or 4.4. I say that because 4.4 introduced violent wing-rocking for me so I went back to 4.3.

Tim, try using FSUIPC V 4.3, it fixed the few issues I had, just like the pervious version of the CS 757. CS installs an unregistered FSUIPC version 4.5 that overwrites any installed version and the 757 doesnt like the new ones.

I don't have 4.3 anymore. I guess it got overwritten.