I don't want to have to buy another program just to compile plans for one plane, no matter how good, I am on a fixed income, can you please make her FSX plan compatible like the34 MD-11 and 747, and ensure that the new 737 is?

You could consider creating your plans with SimRoutes which allows you to save them in PMDG format.

You could consider creating your plans with SimRoutes which allows you to save them in PMDG format.

I tried a couple of well used European routes in that and it came back "no routes found". Iain Smith

Try entering just the airport code you are interested in departing from or arriving to and pressing 'Find routes'.

vroute (http://www.vroute.net) is another option - just download the freeware version.(I don't think the freeware version saves directly to PMDG, but JS41 routes are usually so short that entering by hand is not much of a problem).

Try entering just the airport code you are interested in departing from or arriving to and pressing 'Find routes'.

That's what I did Paul. :( Iain Smith

Or... you could just enter the route into the FMS like real pilots do. :( Seriously, this plane flies very short routes, it takes me all of about 30 seconds to enter almost any route into it.

I don't want to have to buy another program just to compile plans for one plane, no matter how good, I am on a fixed income, can you please make her FSX plan compatible like the34 MD-11 and 747, and ensure that the new 737 is?

There is a way to do this actually (its not documented in the manual because it was never tested for release, but its still there).You can copy the FSX .pln file into your PMDG\FlightPlans folder, then go to the FMS FPL page and it will be listed there,and you can load it into the FMS just like a .RTE file.Also see this thread for a method of loading the active FS flightplan directly from the FSPlanner into the FMS.http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=266653Regards.Ernie.

There is a way to do this actually (its not documented in the manual because it was never tested for release, but its still there).You can copy the FSX .pln file into your PMDG\FlightPlans folder, then go to the FMS FPL page and it will be listed there,and you can load it into the FMS just like a .RTE file.Also see this thread for a method of loading the active FS flightplan directly from the FSPlanner into the FMS.http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=266653Regards.Ernie.

Hello Ernie,It sure is good to have your learned input. I have tried both methods that you have described to no avail.1) I have placed a copy of the FSX .pln file into the PMDG\FlightPlans folder and then tried to access same via the J41's FMS, but it is not showing up.2) I made the .cfg file you spoke of in your post linked above, and then followed your procedures to the letter, but no menu choice of 'ATC Route' shows up. ( I have a question though Ernie; you mentioned at 5.- in your post:-[5 - Load your Copilot route into the FSPlanner (or generate a new route with the FSPlanner).] Precisely what is the "Copilot route"?Thanks for any enlightenment you can offer.Regards,GodfreyG :(

Hello Ernie,It sure is good to have your learned input. I have tried both methods that you have described to no avail.1) I have placed a copy of the FSX .pln file into the PMDG\FlightPlans folder and then tried to access same via the J41's FMS, but it is not showing up.

You have to refresh the FPL list. Do this by cycling the FPL button until you return back to pagfe 1 of the Flight Plans list. That will refresh the list of stored flight plansand any new files you added will then display.Also note the FMS only displays routes by the Dep and Dest, so look for that and not a filename.

2) I made the .cfg file you spoke of in your post linked above, and then followed your procedures to the letter, but no menu choice of 'ATC Route' shows

Did you reload the Aircraft ? The .cfg setting won't take effect until the aircraft is loaded again.Also the ATC RTE only displays on the Temp Flight Page which normally displays when you load a stored flight light, it would display above the 'Select' label.To get to this page without loading a stored flight plan, go to the FPL page and keep pressing FPL until you are on the last page of the flight plans list. Click on theright LSK that is below the last item on the list. When you do that a label will display in yellow named 'NEXT FPL'. That will allow you to go to the temp flight plan page withoutloading a stored route. And you will see the 'ATC RTE' label displayed.

up. ( I have a question though Ernie; you mentioned at 5.- in your post:-[5 - Load your Copilot route into the FSPlanner (or generate a new route with the FSPlanner).] Precisely what is the "Copilot route"?

Copilot is a program made by Abacus one feature is has is exporting the route it creates into FS .PLN format.So loading that plan into the FS planner, and using the ATC RTE option of the FMS would be a way to use a flight plan created by external programsthat don't create plans in the PMDG format (.RTE)Regards,Ernie.

You have to refresh the FPL list. Do this by cycling the FPL button until you return back to pagfe 1 of the Flight Plans list. That will refresh the list of stored flight plansand any new files you added will then display.Also note the FMS only displays routes by the Dep and Dest, so look for that and not a filename.Did you reload the Aircraft ? The .cfg setting won't take effect until the aircraft is loaded again.Also the ATC RTE only displays on the Temp Flight Page which normally displays when you load a stored flight light, it would display above the 'Select' label.To get to this page without loading a stored flight plan, go to the FPL page and keep pressing FPL until you are on the last page of the flight plans list. Click on theright LSK that is below the last item on the list. When you do that a label will display in yellow named 'NEXT FPL'. That will allow you to go to the temp flight plan page withoutloading a stored route. And you will see the 'ATC RTE' label displayed.Copilot is a program made by Abacus one feature is has is exporting the route it creates into FS .PLN format.So loading that plan into the FS planner, and using the ATC RTE option of the FMS would be a way to use a flight plan created by external programsthat don't create plans in the PMDG format (.RTE)Regards,Ernie.

Hi Ernie, thank you for your response. As always, you are very detailed and informative. I will certainly give your instructions a whirl !!!Regards,GodfreyG :(

Ernie, once again thank you. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong :( . I am not even going to mention my silliness in this forum :( !! All's Well that Ends Well !! :( Best Regards,GodfreyG B)

Hi Ernie,I seem to be stuck and I wish the last poster had mentioned how he finally got it going ... it's probably my problem too.Anyway, I get to the point where the Yellow label comes up but when I push Enter on it I get a new page with no mention of ATC RTE.Here's the JS4100_FMS.cfg file in the PMDG folder.ShowAtcRteLabel=1//-----------------------------------------------I've attached a couple of snagits which may help debug me!Thanks for any ideas and BTW being able to convert an FSX FP to PMDG is a real time saver ... the add-on programs won't use the PMDGso you're forced to create and load both for WX etc. Congratulations on your work ... I'd pay to have you finish off the FMC features!!!Regards,Ken Park

You need to select "select" then Enter, to make the flightplan active.Then you should see ACT RTEKev Townsend

Hi Kev,Thanks for the reply ... but "select" doesn't seem to be an option.What step am I missing ... you can see the screens? Select won't bring up the "White" flight plan. Regards,Ken