December 18, 200916 yr Hi everyone,Well, I finally convinced my wife to move our main computer to the basement. That means I now have room for a three or four monitor setup.My system specsIntel Core I7 975 CPU (Overclocked to 4.4 GHz.)ASUS P6T V2 Deluxe MotherboardBFG GeForce GTX 285 Video Board (Overclocked to 666MHz)Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB MonitorCorsair Dominator DDR3 RAM 6GB (3x2GB) 2000MHzEnermax Galaxy 1000 Watt PSU(2) 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor Hard Drives(1) Plextor Blu-ray Disc: Burner/Player(1) Plextor Dual Layer DVD: Burner/PlayerAntec 1200 Full TowerWindows 7 Pro (64bit)This system will be used for FlightSim only!. I'm looking for a three or four monitor match up that's compatible with the graphic(s) card I have installed. Also, should I go and buy another BFG GeForce 285 graphics card that would allow a four monitor setup or get the TripleHead2Go?So, I'm looking for monitor recommendations and input regarding adding a graphics card or TripleHead2Go to my system. As far as the monitors, I would like to keep the same quality I have been getting from my Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB.Thanks Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
December 19, 200916 yr Hi everyone,Well, I finally convinced my wife to move our main computer to the basement. That means I now have room for a three or four monitor setup.My system specsIntel Core I7 975 CPU (Overclocked to 4.4 GHz.)ASUS P6T V2 Deluxe MotherboardBFG GeForce GTX 285 Video Board (Overclocked to 666MHz)Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB MonitorCorsair Dominator DDR3 RAM 6GB (3x2GB) 2000MHzEnermax Galaxy 1000 Watt PSU(2) 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor Hard Drives(1) Plextor Blu-ray Disc: Burner/Player(1) Plextor Dual Layer DVD: Burner/PlayerAntec 1200 Full TowerWindows 7 Pro (64bit)This system will be used for FlightSim only!. I'm looking for a three or four monitor match up that's compatible with the graphic(s) card I have installed. Also, should I go and buy another BFG GeForce 285 graphics card that would allow a four monitor setup or get the TripleHead2Go?So, I'm looking for monitor recommendations and input regarding adding a graphics card or TripleHead2Go to my system. As far as the monitors, I would like to keep the same quality I have been getting from my Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB.ThanksMike- welcome to a whole new world of FS!I would recommend a three view (monitors) as the approach. That will give you a 145
December 19, 200916 yr Commercial Member Hi Mike,I would look at the new ATI Eyefinity card as these can hook up to 3 monitors. And you can set them up as one view across all monitors (like the Triple Head To Go), or set up views as individual windows. I plan to use one of these as I too will be going the 3-4 25-26" monitor route.I will be curious to hear about your FPS after you set up your system. To see how well the 975 Extreme handles three monitors as that will be quite a load.Also, I remember after you got your new system it sounded like your were off to FSX without looking back. What brought you back to the "Dark Side"!? :)Clutch Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, Gigabyte GeForce 5080 RTX, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!) Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11), EVGA 1300W PSUNetgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displaysFull array of Bravo, Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit. Varjo and HP VR headsets for mixed reality.
December 19, 200916 yr Hi Mike,I would look at the new ATI Eyefinity card as these can hook up to 3 monitors. And you can set them up as one view across all monitors (like the Triple Head To Go), or set up views as individual windows. I plan to use one of these as I too will be going the 3-4 25-26" monitor route.I will be curious to hear about your FPS after you set up your system. To see how well the 975 Extreme handles three monitors as that will be quite a load.Also, I remember after you got your new system it sounded like your were off to FSX without looking back. What brought you back to the "Dark Side"!? :)ClutchClutch- any special reason for wanting 25-26" monitors? I use a 19" & two 17"s, and at 26" from my eyes, they span about 80-90% of my peripheral vision.There isn't a lot to be gained by having much more. Larger monitors probably need higher resolutions to resolve the greater dimensions. Hence a bigger impact on the CPU to compute all those pixels. On the other hand, a larger panel does make gauges easier to read !As far as I understand it, TH2Go displays a common single view (VFwd : 45
December 19, 200916 yr Author Hi Clutch,I still have FSX installed on my computer. However, I run FS9 about 99.99% of the time because I spend 99.99% of my time in the Level-D 767-300ER. FS9 with all my addons, including the latest addition (REX2004) has given FS9 its second wind. I believe someone coined the phrase FS9.75, I believe this coined phrase to be true and agree with that statement 100%. If I ever get HD city ground textures that are comparable to REX's 2004 clouds I will remove FSX from my hard drive altogether (no joke).On the rare occasion I fire up the Cessna 172-RG I will use FSX. Other than that, its FS9.75 for me (even with my overclocked I7 system).I cannot wait to begin setting up my three monitor setup. I feel like a little kid in a toy store around Christmas time. Well, I may not be a little kid anymore, but it is Christmas time. :( Hi January,Does your three monitor setup have a wide screen for your center display? I ask because my Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB has an aspect ratio 4:3 and is not wide screen. Should a wide screen monitor be used for the center display?.Thanks Hi Mike,I would look at the new ATI Eyefinity card as these can hook up to 3 monitors. And you can set them up as one view across all monitors (like the Triple Head To Go), or set up views as individual windows. I plan to use one of these as I too will be going the 3-4 25-26" monitor route.I will be curious to hear about your FPS after you set up your system. To see how well the 975 Extreme handles three monitors as that will be quite a load.Also, I remember after you got your new system it sounded like your were off to FSX without looking back. What brought you back to the "Dark Side"!? :)Clutch Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
December 20, 200916 yr ----------I cannot wait to begin setting up my three monitor setup. I feel like a little kid in a toy store around Christmas time. Well, I may not be a little kid anymore, but it is Christmas time. :( Hi January,Does your three monitor setup have a wide screen for your center display? I ask because my Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB has an aspect ratio 4:3 and is not wide screen. Should a wide screen monitor be used for the center display?.ThanksMike- My monitors are all 4:3 and I would recommend staying with that for all mons to avoid possible complexities. If you can have all mons same or nearly same size, you also simplify setup. Trying to mix 4:3 and wide mons I think may be looking for trouble although perhaps possible?The goal is to have an object in main screen- a building or hangar for ex.- appear same physical size in all monitors as the aircraft swings around.My outer mons are 17" LCDs versus a 19" (really 18") CRT in the middle. To get equal sizes on all, I apply 1.03 Zoom to the smaller outer mons- although the difference is really small potatoes.It is possible to use screens of even greater differences in size via zoom.I don't have LDS 767 but here is a pic of PMDG 747 to show the possibilities. I have sometimes had the OH panel on the left mon under/below the view- ready to click on it and overlay it full size on top of the view when needed. This pic shows both CDUs beside the throttle console- very handy to have two pages open at same time. Lower EICAS overlays the throttle. Click on any popup to bring it to the top. Notice how the popups are overlayed so there is always a corner visible to click on.Alex ReidPMDG 747 Holding R28L CYVR (Looks much more impressive when it fills your whole peripheral vision!)
December 20, 200916 yr Author Hi January,What do you think about replacing my monitor with the following.http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/se...dy=REVIEWS#tabsThanks for all the help Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
December 20, 200916 yr Those are great monitors. Don't buy from TigerDirect though, they are NEVER a price leader. I only buy PC components from Newegg and Micro Center. Newegg is $20 cheaper and with free shipping.
December 20, 200916 yr Commercial Member Best Buy has the Hannspree 25" 1900x1200 (2ms response!) for sale for $246.00. I bought one when it was $259.00 and just Luv it!Clutch Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, Gigabyte GeForce 5080 RTX, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!) Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11), EVGA 1300W PSUNetgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displaysFull array of Bravo, Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit. Varjo and HP VR headsets for mixed reality.
December 20, 200916 yr $233 actually, no longer available in stores though. I know because I was just looking to buy that exact same monitor as an upgrade for the 22" 1680x1050 LCD connected to my secondary gaming machine. I've been doing a lot less gaming and alot more tv/movie viewing recently so I figured the extra screen real estate and the bump up to 1080P would be great for all those Blu-rays.
December 20, 200916 yr Hi January,What do you think about replacing my monitor with the following.http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/se...dy=REVIEWS#tabsThanks for all the helpMike- I bow to the expertise of others on questions such as these.However, in the context of a triple mon setup, high resolution monitors may be overkill. The objective here is create a single image that spans three FS views. So a basic monitor resolution of 1024 X 768 delivers a 3072 X 768 picture to my eyes. Moving up a little, a 1280 x 960 res would produce a single pic @ 3840 x 960. I don't think my eyes could absorb more detail!Physical size of the monitor comes into play also- all you really want are 3 monitors side by side, the combined whole of which, spans your complete peripheral vision. If you use larger monitors but set further away from your eyes, there is little gain.Triple 19" 4:3 mons at about 26-28" will do the trick. That would be my choice.Again, I haven't tried wide format monitors- so can't advise. But they should work- they are basically just a big monitor with the top and bottom sheared off. But I suspect mixing Wide & 4:3 mons could cause probs.Can you scrounge a couple of old CRTs to make up a 3 mon set up and experiment a bit? Your present LCD mon (in the middle) can partly overlap the CRT frames to reduce the image separation. Angle the CRTs toward you so that the center points of all three are square to your eyes. Aso tilt all so that again the face of the mon is square to the line of vision- this may require some shims under the outer bases to keep all 3 in full edge contact. The goal here is to ensure the face surface of each- if projected- will intersect with the face surface edge of the adjacent mon.Some experimenting will really help to answer your monitor questions. You may be surprised at how simple this is.Cheers Alex Reid
December 20, 200916 yr Author Hi Everyone,Thanks for all the help. I just noticed that the monitor listed above is 16:9, shouldn't I be looking for a monitor that will give me 16:10?. If so I just found that monitor, here is the address. New Egg has them on sale with a promo code for $309.00.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...1-281-_-ProductHi January,I don't mind sitting a touch further away, if this is the only problem with the larger monitor setup, even if its overkill and there is little gain, as long as there is no disadvantage in doing this. I really don't want to get started using old/used CRT monitors. Right now my system is State-Of The Art/Top-Of-The-Line and I would like to keep it that way. All three monitors will be identical, they should look great setup side-by-side. Will wide screen be a problem in matching everything up because they are not 4:3?. Has anyone setup 3 wide screen monitors?.I don't mind spending $900.00+ dollars as long as its going to give me the wide view I'm looking for.Thanks everyone, help like this is hard to find nowadays. I appreciated everyone taking the time to respond to my questions and helping me get it right. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
December 20, 200916 yr Hi Everyone,Thanks for all the help. I just noticed that the monitor listed above is 16:9, shouldn't I be looking for a monitor that will give me 16:10?. If so I just found that monitor, here is the address. New Egg has them on sale with a promo code for $309.00.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...1-281-_-ProductHi January,I don't mind sitting a touch further away, if this is the only problem with the larger monitor setup, even if its overkill and there is little gain, as long as there is no disadvantage in doing this. I really don't want to get started using old/used CRT monitors. Right now my system is State-Of The Art/Top-Of-The-Line and I would like to keep it that way. All three monitors will be identical, they should look great setup side-by-side. Will wide screen be a problem in matching everything up because they are not 4:3?. Has anyone setup 3 wide screen monitors?.I don't mind spending $900.00+ dollars as long as its going to give me the wide view I'm looking for.Thanks everyone, help like this is hard to find nowadays. I appreciated everyone taking the time to respond to my questions and helping me get it right. Mike- I hear you. And no, I see no reason that 3 identical wide screen monitors should not work just fine. It's mixing 4:3 and wide that makes me nervous- especially if different sized mons were in the mix.In terms of eye to monitor distance, what you want is to fill your lateral peripheral vision. The three FS views with adjustments for bezel separation produce a Flight Sim field of view of 145
December 20, 200916 yr Author Hi January,In all my excitement to get this setup, I forgot I still need the Misubishi monitor for the computer going in the basement. :( My wife of course reminded me of this issue. :( Mike- I hear you. And no, I see no reason that 3 identical wide screen monitors should not work just fine. It's mixing 4:3 and wide that makes me nervous- especially if different sized mons were in the mix.In terms of eye to monitor distance, what you want is to fill your lateral peripheral vision. The three FS views with adjustments for bezel separation produce a Flight Sim field of view of 145 Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
December 21, 200916 yr MichaelI've been using multiple monitors for several years, experimenting with various configurations including WideView and multiple CPU's. However a person ends up with more viewing area, it's certainly likely to please.My current setup utilizes a TH2go D and a DualHead2go unit, plus individual monitors. After the initial excitement of being able to see more of the outside world wore off, I wanted to spread out the instruments as well, hence more monitors. I will say, I use my TH2go triple monitors to look around; I turn my head and look 'outside' - I don't just stare straight ahead. For example when turning base to final. The side monitors add a sense of speed in one's peripheral vision, but it should not be overlooked, that there's simply more you can see. To use a worn out phrase, a single monitor is like looking through a toilet paper tube. Reminds me of wearing 'the hood' in my instrument training. Perhaps you too recall the dreaded device, or did you use 'Foggles'? The sim version might be TIR. (Yes, I have a TIR unit, and yes, I know many people really, really like them. To each their own...hehe, this is a multi monitor post. Anyone who's taken instrument training will know what I'm talking about.)I will be replacing my 4:3 monitors with widescreens in order to get more viewing area. There's no free lunch, of course, and performance has to be taken into account. With the rig you have, I'd be surprised if a triple wide view would be a problem. Adding 2D panels onto other screens has little impact - usually - some addons have popups that can affect FPS.I don't recall if your preference was for 2D or VC. (??) If you're into VC, then a TH2go unit might be in order. I spent some time reading on the WideSreen forum this weekend, and came away with a 'wait and see' position on the new ATI Eyefinity arrangement. It sure has potential. The current lack of bezel management would not be tolerable to me. I do wonder if NVidia will follow suit on their future Fermi boards. Dunno.I noticed that the monitor you were considering was a 1900x1200 unit. That's a lot of pixels to push. If you are going to use three, you might want to consider monitors that are 1680x1050. If you were to go with TH2go, the max the digital version can put out is 5040x1050...and the monitor has to be able to run at 58Hz (there are many that do...a list is provided in a post on the Matrox site.)Something else to consider, is a little future proofing. Ideally, a person would look for a monitor with a DisplayPort, in addition to DVI. I believe the six screen version of the ATI Eyefinity will be DP x 6 - no DVI ports. Matrox also makes a DP version of TH2go which overcomes the DVI cable/5040 max resolution issue. There are DP monitors out there now. Oh, and the DP-to-DVI powered adapters are not cheap!I also would think about buying four identical monitors. Three for the outside views, and the fourth for instruments below. Beyond the cleanliness of having all of the monitors match, consider what happens when down the road one of the outside view monitors dies. This very thing happened to me when I moved down under. I had a heck of a time finding the same model monitor and ended up with a refurbished unit. If my fourth monitor had matched, I could have just rotated it in, and replaced the lower one with whatever. It would be good insurance (and a good rationalization to add a panel for instruments).Here's an older photo when first going to 4 screens, with the stock 737NG...This photo is of the DA Cheyenne (ignore the overhead...you get the idea)A bonus with an ATI Eyefinity or TH2go solution, is that in the external view, the airplane (when zoomed in) is spread across all three screens. Replays look really good.Hope this helps.Noel [email protected] / 8800GTX / 4Gb / Vista64 Noel Wiebracht -------------------- [email protected]||Gigabyte P67A-UD7||8 Gb Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600||Gigabyte GTX580 x 2||Noctua NH-D14||Crucial SATAIII 256Gb x 2||CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 1200W||Coolermaster RC-942 HAF X||Dell U3011 30"|Multiple Monitors w/TH2goD-DH2goD-Touchscreens||Win7 64 Pro||FSX Gold
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