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Huge MD-11 manual: people's solutions?

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I am one of those people that doesn't like reading from a computer screen. This usually isn't a problem, given the fact that most stuff isn't 1400 pages. The MD-11 manual is... I was wondering, how do people solve this problem? do you end u reading from the screen? Do you print it out yourself, all of it? Do you go to some print shop (like I did with the Boeing 747 manual; cost me a fortune, but wow, does it look good!)? Do you end up printing out sections? Or, did you just buy PMDG's printed manual (which looks fairly appetizing, I must admit)? I'd like to know what your way of solving this problem is.

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I am one of those people that doesn't like reading from a computer screen. This usually isn't a problem, given the fact that most stuff isn't 1400 pages. The MD-11 manual is... I was wondering, how do people solve this problem? do you end u reading from the screen? Do you print it out yourself, all of it? Do you go to some print shop (like I did with the Boeing 747 manual; cost me a fortune, but wow, does it look good!)? Do you end up printing out sections? Or, did you just buy PMDG's printed manual (which looks fairly appetizing, I must admit)? I'd like to know what your way of solving this problem is.
Well I got the printed manuals from PMDG, it comes to my sense it's easier having them at hand other than going thought pdf files especially if you got the Beast flying ! Just my 2 cents! Leonardo Soares

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I am one of those people that doesn't like reading from a computer screen. This usually isn't a problem, given the fact that most stuff isn't 1400 pages. The MD-11 manual is... I was wondering, how do people solve this problem? do you end u reading from the screen? Do you print it out yourself, all of it? Do you go to some print shop (like I did with the Boeing 747 manual; cost me a fortune, but wow, does it look good!)? Do you end up printing out sections? Or, did you just buy PMDG's printed manual (which looks fairly appetizing, I must admit)? I'd like to know what your way of solving this problem is.
Hi Benjamin, Do the tutorial that came with it then when you feel your up to it, try the recently released Advanced tutorial. During both reads, you'll of course need to reference the manuals on terms and systems you don't understand, but for that I recommend doind as follow:
  • Copy all of your MD-11 manuals into 1 directory
  • Create a shortcut for the folder on your desktop
  • When searching for a key word, Press "CTRL+SHIFT+F", this will open the advanced search feature of the pdf's
  • Quickly learn what you need and go back to your tutorial.

That's the easiest way. I am a comp person mainly, I can sit through hours of pdf reading, but actual books put me right to sleep, no matter what the subject. You'll be surprised at how fast you pick it up. Then when you find yourself stumped, use the advanced search here by typing in multiple words with a + before each word and you'll be applying for the next opening for an MD-11 pilot before you know it!

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I just copy the files to my laptop, that's where I do most of my reading anyway. It's handy when I'm on the couch with my partner and she's watching Ghost whisperer or some other random girly program, I can just switch off. I also prefer using the laptop because I can Google and look up certain things I am not 100% sure about and jump back & forth between the PDF and web page.The only thing I do like to have printed out is the QRH, Checklists & Aircraft limitations

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I printed it out on my Canon IP4000 printer with separate ink cartridges. Then had it bound in a copy shop. Total cost wasn't very much (considering it's around 1400 pages), less than 30 Euro I guess.

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I am one of those people that doesn't like reading from a computer screen. This usually isn't a problem, given the fact that most stuff isn't 1400 pages. The MD-11 manual is... I was wondering, how do people solve this problem? do you end u reading from the screen? Do you print it out yourself, all of it? Do you go to some print shop (like I did with the Boeing 747 manual; cost me a fortune, but wow, does it look good!)? Do you end up printing out sections? Or, did you just buy PMDG's printed manual (which looks fairly appetizing, I must admit)? I'd like to know what your way of solving this problem is.
I usually print out sections like tutorials,but not the whole manual.The manuals are always copied to a flash drive,or my notebook,because I only have a laser printer which does not do color.I realise that the PMDG manuals are not in color,but they would be too bulky,since I have so many manuals for other aircraft.Also,I am cutting down on all printed media to save the trees,LOL.I know that people lament that printed manuals are no longer supplied with most addons,but if you consider the cost savings on printing and shipping,it is understandable.Ron

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Wow guys, thanks for the fast replies!I don't have the plane yet, just for the record. I plan on buying it sometime this year (and the year has just begun :-P). The reason I ask is mostly because, before I buy it and end up with these kind og logistical problems, I like to know what people do to solve it.Most suggestions seem very reasonable. I'm particularly interested in what Legend did: You actually printed out 1400 pages of manual? Didn't that take an aweful lot of time? And what about ink? Also, did you do it black and white, or in color? (I mean, is there actually something in that manual that really needs to be in color, like in the 747's manual?)I'll probably end up just printing out the tutorials, checklists and QRH, which somebody suggested too and I usually do anyways. I do think I might end up printing some sections, like the autopilot/FMC chapters (or whatever you call the FMC in a MD-11). Minimizing to look at a manual is something I tried, but it is catastrophic: usually, FS2004 can't expand anymore after I minimize, meaning I have to end it via task manager and then restart it. Not so good...

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usually, FS2004 can't expand anymore after I minimize, meaning I have to end it via task manager and then restart it. Not so good...
Never minimize by Alt+Tabbing, if anything just use Alt+Enter and you'll have no prob. Alt+Enter just set's it to windowed mode.

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Im running in windowed mode with manuals, charts, etc on my secondary monitor while i fly. Works like a charm

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I am one of those people that doesn't like reading from a computer screen. This usually isn't a problem, given the fact that most stuff isn't 1400 pages. The MD-11 manual is... I was wondering, how do people solve this problem?
I could have bought the printed books, and maybe in retrospect I should have, but what I did was print out much, but not all of it. QRH, the FMC, the Intro, flight planning stuf, etc. Also the checklists and the normal, abnormal and emergency procedures. I printed very little of the systems stuff. I read a fair bit of it, but its not something you're really going to use while flying, IMHO. I think how much you need depends on the flying. If you don't enable failures, you need far less of the printed material than you do if you are trying to problem solve at FL350.

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If you really want the manuals I would buy them, to me they'd be worth it if you really want the reading material, plus more profesional of course. Besides, Kinkos is a long ride for me. Personally, I wish my eyes could find something as fast as CTRL+F does :(

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Doug: that's a good point you raise there. Honestly, while reading he PMDG 747 manual, I'm skipping a lot. All those things that I really will never touch unless I enable failures, I just don't read. Only those systems that I know are very important and I do want to understand (electricity, fuel, that kind of stuff), I do read. And of course autoflight and FMC related stuff.Thanks guys, I think I know what to do now!

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Doug: that's a good point you raise there. Honestly, while reading he PMDG 747 manual, I'm skipping a lot. All those things that I really will never touch unless I enable failures, I just don't read. Only those systems that I know are very important and I do want to understand (electricity, fuel, that kind of stuff), I do read. And of course autoflight and FMC related stuff.
But, after you have developed an understanding of the bird, enable the failures. It really adds to the learning when the little missives come on and you work through them.

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How often do real planes have failures anyways? I dont want to have more failures than real planes have.

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I use an Amazon Kindle 2. It's a great solution - I'm reading the manuals a lot more now than I used to. I have the 744/MD11/J41 manuals on it, as well as the 744 TRC, and the advanced tutorials. Also all the LDS documentation.Really useful when I'm away from home too :)

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How often do real planes have failures anyways? I dont want to have more failures than real planes have.
Why not? It's a simulator after all, and simulators are here to learn... If you say you want to have it as real as it gets I would say, using the software the same way as the Level-D simulators is also as real as it gets...If you use failures it doesn't mean you have to use them on EVERY flight...Markus

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How often do real planes have failures anyways? I dont want to have more failures than real planes have.
John,I asked this question awhile back (I forget if it was the MD-11 or the 747) and was told that the "real" failure rate is actually really low, like 1 in 100 hours or something like that. When I use them, I REALLY use them. I'll make a shortish flight, like 2 to 3 hours and crank it up to 10 failure per 10 hours or something like that. But on longer flights, where I'm more likey to go do something else for a few hours rather than stare at a screen, I turn them off completely so that the engine doesn't catch on fire while I'm watching football or somethhing.

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How often do real planes have failures anyways?
Very rarely. I know Delta 767 pilot who never had a failure in his whole flying career. By failure I don't mean a burned out bulbor some inop piece of equipment that have substitutes but something that would force a pilot to switch to troubleshooting and/or emergency mode. But in a simulator training - failures are the norm to prepare the pilot for the worst.

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I've read that most airline pilots will not have an engine failure in their career. Thank goodness for simulators where these situations can be studied and experienced. My first ride in a simulator was an AF C-141 where the simulated cargo fire filed the cockpit with real smoke. That was a surprise. Speaking of engines, pilots flying piston twins will have failures. I've flown two engine-out fllights in the past four years. Gee, it is almost routine.

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I've read that most airline pilots will not have an engine failure in their career. Thank goodness for simulators where these situations can be studied and experienced. My first ride in a simulator was an AF C-141 where the simulated cargo fire filed the cockpit with real smoke. That was a surprise. Speaking of engines, pilots flying piston twins will have failures. I've flown two engine-out fllights in the past four years. Gee, it is almost routine.
What is it they say about the difference between piston single and piston twin? A piston single pilot flies happily until his engine fails and then he crashes and a piston twin flies happily until one of his engines fail and then he crashes. Sadly, this is truer than it needs to be. Glad to hear you've survived a couple. Little ole me, I've only survived a complete electrical failure - at night.

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My electrical failure was daytime but IMC right after takeoff in an Arrow. That was interesting.

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I wish I could install them on the kneeboard, then I could read as I fly w/out the expense of printing. Vincent :(

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I wish I could install them on the kneeboard, then I could read as I fly w/out the expense of printing. Vincent :(
You can actually. There are a couple programs that will do it. Widgets and another I can't remember the name of. I use FS Widgets, tiz very cool, just not able to run in full screen mode if you use FSX.

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You can actually. There are a couple programs that will do it. Widgets and another I can't remember the name of. I use FS Widgets, tiz very cool, just not able to run in full screen mode if you use FSX.
Hey Thanks, I'll look into that.....I could think of alot of things I would put in and out so I could save on paper and space.

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You can actually. There are a couple programs that will do it. Widgets and another I can't remember the name of. I use FS Widgets, tiz very cool, just not able to run in full screen mode if you use FSX.
Hey Dan, Thanks for the tip on FSWidgets EFB....got it tonight and love what I see so far...highly recommend it...spent time loading charts and manuals that I can read and this will save me big time on printing in the future.......Vincent

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