Hi Folks - I already have and love the A2A J3 cub but I'm also interested in a similar plane which is faster and has flaps etc. The Flight Replicas Super Cub looks interesting but I'd appreciate some info as follows before deciding what to do.1. The A2A Cub feels great in the air - seems to be very realistic compared to other FSX aircraft of it's type. How is the flight modeling of the Flight Replicas Super Cub? Please compare to the A2A Cub if possible or to the default Cub.2. Do you know where I can find repaints for the Super Cub? I checked various sites but didn't turn up any except for the L19 version.Thanks for you help. Howard

I've been considering buying the Flight Replicas Super Cub but have been holding off for exactly the same reason. I didn't much like the flight modeling in the Flight Replicas J-3. People are enthusiastic about the Super Cub, though, and it's possible the participation of a real-world Super Cub pilot helped. But like you, I'd be interested in a head-to-head comparison - or, failing that, a comparison to the RealAir Citabria/Scout package, which still performs very nicely.Re: repaints, several are in the works at Sim Outhouse (see the last few pages of this thread for works in progress).Hope this helps.Alan

I have the A2A Cub,and FSAddons Super Cub,which has 7 models,Aerobatic,Amphibian,Floats,Skis,Large Tundra,Small Tundra,and Wheels.And i have to say i like it as well,if not better than the A2A.Adam

I have the A2A Cub,and FSAddons Super Cub,which has 7 models,Aerobatic,Amphibian,Floats,Skis,Large Tundra,Small Tundra,and Wheels.And i have to say i like it as well,if not better than the A2A.Adam

I hear good things about the FSAddon Super Cub, Adam.For me, the A2A J-3 is in its own category. I'm a true believer for many reasons, but the one that comes to mind is the first time I tried to spin it. I had it up in a strong 90 degree crosswind coming from the right. When I tried to spin it to the right, it entered the spin with no problem, because the crosswind took down the upwind wing and forced it into the spin. When I tried a spin to the left, it spiraled instead - the wind got under the high right wing and threw me into a spiral. I've never had an FS airplane react to the environment that way before. So for me, it's a tough act to follow. I don't expect everybody to be working the flight dynamics with as much originality as A2A - particularly in the case of Flight Replicas, which seems to be a single-developer shop. But I'd like to get a similar amount of atmosphere and a decent match on accuracy. As I've said before, the fact that the Flight Replicas J-3 refused to stall makes me hesitate...Adam - did you buy the Accusim module along with the A2A J-3? If not, it wouldn't display behaviors like the ones I described. It's only via Accusim that the aircraft interacts with the atmosphere that way, as opposed to the default FSX modeling. If you haven't invested in it, it's worth it.Alan

Hi Alan,yes i have the Accusim module.Maybe i didn't word that correctly.i agree the A2A is a outstanding piece of work,probably nothing i have ever had has had the realism of the A2A.I really haven't tried spins,and etc. yet,as i have been pretty busy lately buying aircraft,mostly GA,and Bush planes :( I don't know what it is about the FSAddon Super Cub,maybe the extra speed,flaps,and landing lights,or the seven different models,don't know.I just think it's a great little plane for the price.Adam

I agree that, fine as the A2A J-3 is, there are times when it'd be nice to fly something a little faster and more versatile - and with lights! That's why I'm interested in the Flight Replicas Super Cub - but I'll have to have a look at the FS Addon one as well.Alan

Interesting discussion thanks folks. Does anyone know where I can find a forum for the FSADDON cub where I can find discussion from users etc.? I have looked at the FSADDON site but couldn't find much discussion about their Cub.Thanks Howard

Interesting discussion thanks folks. Does anyone know where I can find a forum for the FSADDON cub where I can find discussion from users etc.? I have looked at the FSADDON site but couldn't find much discussion about their Cub.Thanks Howard

Here's the official support forum. Francois, the FSAddon publisher, also operates simflight.com, so that might be worth a look, although there doesn't seem to be much Super Cub discussion there. Finally, Sim Outhouse is worth a visit Sentiment on their FSX forum runs heavily in favor of the Flight Replicas version (and Mike Cyul of Flight Replicas is an active forum participant), but there should be users there familiar with both.Hope this is somewhat useful. In a previous economy, I would have jumped at the Flight Replicas Super Cub and I'd be able to give you an informed opinion, but now I'm trying to be much more careful about my add-ons, which is why I share your question but don't have a definitive answer to give. Apologies.Alan

Thanks Alan - I'll report more on this thread if I come across anything of interest. Howard

I bought the Flight Replicas Super Cub Extreme Bush Plane today on the recommendation of a friend who has flown the RW Super Cub. He affirmed that the flight model of the FR plane is excellent, and that was good enough for me to take the plunge. I have been flying it all day in Alaska and Papua New Guinea. I have fallen in love with it. I don't want to get into an "a is better than b" thing because all of the planes mentioned in this thread are excellent, and what you like often comes down to personal taste. The FR Super Cub has the kind of high quality textures that you would find in the RealAir Scout and it is nearly as realistic as the A2A J3. On mechanical detail, the A2A J3 definitely has the edge, especially with the Accusim add-on. I think the flight model of the FR Super Cub would compare quite favorably with either the RealAir Scout or the A2A J3. Another factor worth mentioning is that I bought the FR Super Cub Extreme Bush Plane for $21.95. The RealAir Scout/Decathalon/Citabria and the A2A J3 with Accusim will cost your about $50. Don't be afraid to buy this plane. It is very good.

My one piece of advice I would give is that if you are considering purchasing this model then buy the complete pack. Other forums I frequent have several posts, from guys who bought the individual packs, who regret not buying the whole bunch. To buy all the individual packs separately works out at around $70. To buy the complete pack only costs, a very reasonable, $40.

I agree that, fine as the A2A J-3 is, there are times when it'd be nice to fly something a little faster and more versatile - and with lights! That's why I'm interested in the Flight Replicas Super Cub - ....Alan

That's my thoughts precisely. I fly both the A2A Accusim and Flight Replicas and enjoy both immensely. As a non R/L pilot my subjective impressions of flight characteristics would carry no weight. I note that the A2A is simulating a 65HP engine where the Flight Replicas come in at 95 to 220HP. I chalk up some of the performance/handling differences I perceive to this. I would say if they responded and handled identically then I would suspect something to be wrong with one or the other, or both. Bottom line for me is these Cubs (as well as Real Airs Scout, Citabria, Decathalon package) are my planes of choice as I attempt to make a grand tour of every country around the world. Personally, I wouldn't be without either Cub in my hangar.

Thanks, everybody - that's great feedback. The FR Super Cub is beginning to sound like a winner.Just to clarify - am not looking for performance identical to the A2A J-3 - obviously they're different airplanes. And am not looking for the same degree of mechanical fidelity - not everybody does Accusim and it must be hard for FR, which is basically a one-person shop, to come close to that. But was hoping for a similar degree of immersion and it sounds like the FR Super Cub delivers that in a different way. Will look for budget clearance and try to check it out.Alan

St Ex - that's exactly what I've been looking for. I will get one of these, but I am struggling to know which. I am sure that there will be 2 camps, and from what I've read, both are great. I suspect the difference, in the end, might just be down to what you fancy flying! Still, any hints are much appreciated. I'm angling towards the Super, since I have a nice, detailed Dornier for my low & slow flights with some attention to careful flight; I'm thinking the SC might be similarly immersive, but with a little "zoom". Any more comments here would be greatly appreciated.

St Ex - that's exactly what I've been looking for. I will get one of these, but I am struggling to know which. I am sure that there will be 2 camps, and from what I've read, both are great. I suspect the difference, in the end, might just be down to what you fancy flying! Still, any hints are much appreciated. I'm angling towards the Super, since I have a nice, detailed Dornier for my low & slow flights with some attention to careful flight; I'm thinking the SC might be similarly immersive, but with a little "zoom". Any more comments here would be greatly appreciated.

Well, if it's a choice between them, that's tough. Obivously I can't comment on the Super Cub just yet. But the A2A J-3 is an extraordinary experience. It's hard to convey just how different it feels from any other flightsim airplane I've tried - and I've tried a lot of them in nearly 25 years of simming. It's the only one I can think of that feels (in terms of atmosphere) and behaves (in terms of dynamics) like a real airplane - one that's really affected by the air mass around it. To me the RealAir planes come closest, but even they're a bit more "linear" in the way they respond. It seems - although they haven't talked about it much - that what A2A have managed to do with the Cub is to rewrite the sim, and transfer at least some of the air mass interactions - like prop drag, prop wash over the tail, and some of the airfoil responses - from MSFS to Accusim, so that the airplane meets the environment in a whole new way. The sketchy descriptions so far make it sound a little like an adaptation of the blade element approach (or some other form of fluid dynamics) that X-Plane uses - though I'm not at all sure that's accurate. But the effects, however they're achieved, come across in a way that feels remarkably natural, and produces much more detailed stall, spin and slip performance, not to mention the way the thing just "rides" in light turbulence. I don't rave easily about FS products, but this one really got my attention. FYI that for me at least it needs very different control calibration - in FSUIPC I've built a profile for it with the sensitivities turned all the way up, which again is a token that the modeling is very different.My hope is that over time, A2A will extend this approach to future aircraft - past Accusim modules have dealt mainly with systems, but now they seem to be trying to capture what they've done with the Cub in terms of flight dynamics and apply it elsewhere. There've been suggestions - again, pretty obscure ones so far - that they might do additional Cub variants over time - I'm guessing maybe a PA-11 Super Cruiser with slightly more power. Going all the way to a Super Cub-like aircraft would of course take them a lot more work and I doubt that's in the cards, given their current schedule of Accusim upgrades (B-17, P-51). They also suggested that they'd be open to Accusimming other developers' aircraft, but I have no idea what the reception to that would be.FYI that I have nothing to do with A2A - I'm just an enthusiastic customer.Having said all that - and knowing what I know about my own sales resistance (thin!) - I get the sense I'll probably break down and try the Super Cub pretty soon, and if I do, I'll post impressions.Hope this helps.Alan