Hello,I recently bougt the FS2Crew-Maddog. That seems to be a good an innovative product. But at the moment I'm not very satisfied. What I absolutly don't like is the manual. Having bought the FS2Crew ATR and MD11 before, there I have gotten good manuals with a worflow you can follow very easy.But in the Maddog-version the written crew-flows are way to complicated. You have to look at the same time in 3 parts of the manual. You have to follow your own Captain-flow, you have to follow the FO-flow and you have to look at the checklists. So you have to change the sides in the manual every second to look for the next event/trigger/check. Why couldn't it be possible to make this in one big flow. Captain pre-start procedure than FO pre-start procedure than pre-start checklist and so on. This would me much easier to follow !!I hoped the implementaion of voice would make FS2CREW easier but until now I think it's more complicated than ever. Workflow in the MD11 was much more easier to follow.Two minor points:After the FS2Crew-Maddog installation I have files in c:\programme\FS2Crew, I have files in d:\FSX\FS2CREW and I have files in D:\FSX\FS2CREW2010. A bit much, isn't it?? Is it really necessary to spread the files around the whole directory?And I have now 105MB files of DXUpdates in FS2Crew2010\misc\DXUpdate. Why couldn't it be deleted automaticly after installation? Or do I need them again?Bernhard

Hi BernhardI'd recommend that you print out the checklist separately, that will help you a lot with the initial page flipping when you're learning the procedures. A user created one that's easier to print here http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=276043Another user is also working on a flowchart similar to what we had on earlier versions.That said, if you're comfortable with the plane itself, it will probably only take you a couple of flights to get the hang of the procedures and flows. :(

The absolutly best thing to do is to print it out. I had it on my laptop on the side, but it was not easy. So I printed out the checklists, flows and dialogues seperatly. Then it was much easier!Thorbj

Hello,I recently bougt the FS2Crew-Maddog. That seems to be a good an innovative product. But at the moment I'm not very satisfied. What I absolutly don't like is the manual. Having bought the FS2Crew ATR and MD11 before, there I have gotten good manuals with a worflow you can follow very easy.But in the Maddog-version the written crew-flows are way to complicated. You have to look at the same time in 3 parts of the manual. You have to follow your own Captain-flow, you have to follow the FO-flow and you have to look at the checklists. So you have to change the sides in the manual every second to look for the next event/trigger/check. Why couldn't it be possible to make this in one big flow. Captain pre-start procedure than FO pre-start procedure than pre-start checklist and so on. This would me much easier to follow !!I hoped the implementaion of voice would make FS2CREW easier but until now I think it's more complicated than ever. Workflow in the MD11 was much more easier to follow.Two minor points:After the FS2Crew-Maddog installation I have files in c:\programme\FS2Crew, I have files in d:\FSX\FS2CREW and I have files in D:\FSX\FS2CREW2010. A bit much, isn't it?? Is it really necessary to spread the files around the whole directory?And I have now 105MB files of DXUpdates in FS2Crew2010\misc\DXUpdate. Why couldn't it be deleted automaticly after installation? Or do I need them again?Bernhard

Hi Bernhard,Print out the checklist and flows.If you have that, then you should basically be good to go more or less.Voice is more complex than the old style FS2Crew; you can't just click the Main Button to go through the script like you could with the non-voice versions. You have to know what to say. Also, be sure to watch the training videos as they can help: http://www.youtube.com/user/FS2CrewAs for file directories: FS2Crew encompasses over 5 years worth of multiple products. To help keep the old style separate from the new (voice) style, I decided to put the voice stuff in a new folder as the old FS2Crew folder was getting unmanageable.Best,

Bryan,of course I printed out the manual, but it's very difficult to follow 3 single lists. I'm still convinced, that one single list would have been much better than 3 seperate lists ! I'm no real-world Captain, so I don't know what to ask/answer my FO at every stage of the flight, so it's very difficult to work with those separate lists.Ok, I will try those video-tutorials, for that I'm not lost any more in the virtual sky :( By the way, I appreciate your work very much, it's a big improvement for all who wants more realism. But don't make it too complcated! :(Bernhard

Bryan,of course I printed out the manual, but it's very difficult to follow 3 single lists. I'm still convinced, that one single list would have been much better than 3 seperate lists ! I'm no real-world Captain, so I don't know what to ask/answer my FO at every stage of the flight, so it's very difficult to work with those separate lists.Ok, I will try those video-tutorials, for that I'm not lost any more in the virtual sky :( By the way, I appreciate your work very much, it's a big improvement for all who wants more realism. But don't make it too complcated! :(Bernhard

:( We're going for "as real as it gets"... :( Remember that when the guys are doing their sim training in the real world, they have to sit down and memorize all the flows and callouts, too. But once you've done it a few times it's pretty simple!

Ok ok Bryan........after some more starts I get used of this new experience. And I have to admit that you have done a very good job here. If one has some routine all goes very easy and in a nearly logical way.And I must say that voice recognition works very very good. Although you mention something about to prefer american slang, my His-Holy-Royalty-Prince-Charles-Voice was understood most of the time without any problems :( .Bernhard

Ok ok Bryan........after some more starts I get used of this new experience. And I have to admit that you have done a very good job here. If one has some routine all goes very easy and in a nearly logical way.And I must say that voice recognition works very very good. Although you mention something about to prefer american slang, my His-Holy-Royalty-Prince-Charles-Voice was understood most of the time without any problems :( .Bernhard

Glad it's all working out for you!