March 14, 201016 yr Well, I just crossed over the other way, from an nVidia 285GTX to an ATI (Gigabyte) 5870.nVidia has never fixed the long-standing issue that still causes tool tips to cause weird artifacting, and I haven't been able to get FSX dual monitor configurations to work reliably with my 285 ever.ATI has indeed finally gotten adaptive AA (analogous to nVidia's combined mode I believe) to work on the 5000 series cards at least with the latest (Catalyst 10.2) drivers. Supersampling mode is not required. There do seem to be some issues with VSync and Vista on some machines with the ATI boards.My biggest problem with my 285, though, is a rash of black-screen crashes that occur at random times into a flight, and from reading eVGA's forums I am far from being alone with that. Hopefully it's just a defective card and I won't have to RMA it multiple times like a few guys have reported...I've not ventured outside the nVidia camp for at least a decade...so far my ATI 5870 has been a close equivalent to the 285 in performance, and I haven't begun to try overclocking it yet. Each has their strong points, and each has their problems I think. RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 15, 201016 yr I tried one of the best 5870's that money can buy. After two days of testing, I went back to my GTX 285 and returned the ATI 5870.I'll wait until the new generation of nvidia are released. MSFS
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