March 13, 201016 yr Hello,I presently use a 6 computers network to run fs 2004Using 3 computers to obtain 5 external views (with Wideview) and the 3 others to run programms such as project magenta, Itra software end maxivistaI like using 5 external view since it give me a 180 degre wich is very immersive and help me pratice a lot since i am a private pilot flying a pa32r-300 and a pa28-140.the views are: front, 45 degre left and right, 90 degre left and right (undock view (virtual cockpit) allows me to get a very similar view than the real airplane.The problem with wideview are: traffic and meteo synchro and scenery have to be download on each computer.Considering the new technology and Matrox TH2G , can we run 5 external views with one computer and still having decent FPS ?Thank you in advanceJean-Louis Auger :(
March 13, 201016 yr FSX is a very demanding application with a horribly serialized engine. You need a very fast CPU with incredibly high clock speeds to pull off playable frame rates in the scenario you described. Think i7 at somewhere north of 5GHz.
March 13, 201016 yr Considering the new technology and Matrox TH2GMatrox THG is dead. Long live ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity Edition: You get one of the most powerful video cards available today and SIX video ports (vs. THG's three). MiniDisplayPort to DVI adapters needed, but they are really cheap (5 bucks!).ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity Edition (Released March 11, 2020):- http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=32756&catid=2MiniDisplayPort to DVI Adapter:- http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_1...ini+displayportCheers,- jahman.
March 13, 201016 yr Hello,I presently use a 6 computers network to run fs 2004Using 3 computers to obtain 5 external views (with Wideview) and the 3 others to run programms such as project magenta, Itra software end maxivistaI like using 5 external view since it give me a 180 degre wich is very immersive and help me pratice a lot since i am a private pilot flying a pa32r-300 and a pa28-140.the views are: front, 45 degre left and right, 90 degre left and right (undock view (virtual cockpit) allows me to get a very similar view than the real airplane.The problem with wideview are: traffic and meteo synchro and scenery have to be download on each computer.Considering the new technology and Matrox TH2G , can we run 5 external views with one computer and still having decent FPS ?Thank you in advanceJean-Louis Auger :(Jean-Louis: If you were to use TH2Go- you will only get the single- View Forward, stretched across 3 monitors: then adding in the 2 views on your monitors #4 & 5 will yield a total Field of View of 135
March 14, 201016 yr Jean-Louis: If you were to use TH2Go- you will only get the single- View Forward, stretched across 3 monitors: then adding in the 2 views on your monitors #4 & 5 will yield a total Field of View of 135
March 14, 201016 yr hi Alex, forget the last reply, (wrong touch)1-I thought that i was able to undock views with TH2G (instead of stretching 1 view across 3 monitors) and the adjust them per monitor (this is exactly what i am doing presently with my current set-up)2-since i already have 5 monitors, i would preferably keep that same set-up. Being able to see the wings is quite close to the reality when praticing visual approach and patterns. I found very useful to fly the sim when i planned a real trip to a new desrtination. Practicing approach to this new destination make the trip much easier.3-Can you send an exemple of your panel.cfg.thank you Jean-Louis
March 14, 201016 yr hi Alex, forget the last reply, (wrong touch)1-I thought that i was able to undock views with TH2G (instead of stretching 1 view across 3 monitors) and the adjust them per monitor (this is exactly what i am doing presently with my current set-up)2-since i already have 5 monitors, i would preferably keep that same set-up. Being able to see the wings is quite close to the reality when praticing visual approach and patterns. I found very useful to fly the sim when i planned a real trip to a new desrtination. Practicing approach to this new destination make the trip much easier.3-Can you send an exemple of your panel.cfg.thank you Jean-LouisJean-Louis, As I understand TH2G, in 2D panel mode, it only shows a single view (Fwd) but stretched across the three monitors. In doing so, the top and bottom of the view is sheared off to fit the triple wide format. I believe 2D panel users of TH, apply a fair bit of zoom to compensate. In addition because of this lateral stretching, round gauges can become quite ovalized. Where TH2G really shines is with virtual panels where panning and zooming produces the visual perspective that you and I get with multiple monitors AND NO Pan or Zoom!.So I'm quite sure that TH2G will Not be compatible with additional monitors/views.---------Agreed that the wider perspective with 5 views is desirable! That produces a total view of 5 x 45
March 15, 201016 yr Hi,Absolutely incorrect, Matrox THG is far from dead!. If your going to point someone to a particular product (ATI & Monitor Adapters) you should at least get your information correct. First off, the MiniDisplayPort to DVI Adapters need to be active adapters, not the cheap ($5.00) adapters you suggest.Actually, I already did the breakdown between the two (ATI Board & Active Adapters) products, let me see if I can find the info and past it here. I Found the post, unless you have money you want to throw away, there is no reason to overlook the Matrox TH2Go if you have a decent video board.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #1 - 2 Monitor Setup1. ATI Eyefinity = $410.00 ?2. 2 DP Monitors = $177.67 X 2 = $355.34 (Cheapest I could Find)Total = $765.34 - For $765.34 I get a max resolution of 3840x1080-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #2 - 2 Monitor Setup1. ATI Eyefinity = $410.00 ?2. Active DP Converters = Not Needed (Use My Existing Two DVI Monitors)Total = $410.00 - For $410.00 I get a max resolution of 3840x1200-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #3 - 3 Monitor Setup1. ATI Eyefinity = $410.00 ?2. 3 DP Monitors = $177.67 X 3 = $533.01 (Cheapest I could Find)Total = $943.01 - For $943.01 I get a max resolution of 5760x1080-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #4 - 3 Monitor Setup1. ATI Eyefinity = $410.00 ?2. 1 Active DP Converter = $177.67 (Use My Existing Three Monitors) - Note Passive Converters Don't WorkTotal = $587.67 - For $587.67 I get a max resolution of 5760x1200-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #5 - 2 Monitor Setup1. Keep my Nvidia 285 Video Board = $000.002. Digital Dual head 2 Go = $210.003. Use my existing two monitors = $000.00Total = $210.00 - For $210.00 I get a max resolution of 3840x1200-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Setup #6 - 3 Monitor Setup1. Keep my Nvidia 285 Video Board = $000.002. Digital Triple head 2 Go = $282.003. Use my existing three monitors = $000.00Total = $282.00 - For $282.00 I get a max resolution of 5760x1080-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I see no reason for anyone to dump their high end video board (Justin has an Nvidia GTX285 board, which is an outstanding video board) for ATi's Eyefinity, a complete waste of money for anyone who has a high end video board when the DH2Go and the TH2Go exists!.The statement below sounds more like a a really excited user statement than a decision made after looking at all the facts.Matrox THG is dead. Long live ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity Edition: You get one of the most powerful video cards available today and SIX video ports (vs. THG's three). MiniDisplayPort to DVI adapters needed, but they are really cheap (5 bucks!).ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity Edition (Released March 11, 2020):- http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=32756&catid=2MiniDisplayPort to DVI Adapter:- http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_1...ini+displayportCheers,- jahman.Hi Jean-Louis,I just got started (a couple of months ago) with a triple monitor setup myself, loving every minute of it. I ended up with the following.1. Matrox TH2Go - Digital2. 3 - Samsung SyncMaster T260HD monitors3. BFG GTX 285 Video BoardThat reminds me, I was suppose to get some photos online showing my new setup, I completely forgot. I'll get them online within a day or two. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
March 15, 201016 yr Hi,--------------------------------Hi Jean-Louis,I just got started (a couple of months ago) with a triple monitor setup myself, loving every minute of it. I ended up with the following.1. Matrox TH2Go - Digital2. 3 - Samsung SyncMaster T260HD monitors3. BFG GTX 285 Video BoardThat reminds me, I was suppose to get some photos online showing my new setup, I completely forgot. I'll get them online within a day or two.Mike- A couple of questions that I've been anxious to clarify with an actual user of TH2Go:Am I correct that you are using a virtual panel setup with TH2Go? Have you by any chance used it with the 2D panel & views? And if so, is it posible to create additional views Left & Right Fwd, undock them and drag them onto the outer monitors to create a triple wide 135
March 15, 201016 yr Absolutely incorrect, Matrox THG is far from dead!.Not!If your going to point someone to a particular product (ATI & Monitor Adapters) you should at least get your information correct.Indeed, that's what I say, you get your info right before posting! (See below...)First off, the MiniDisplayPort to DVI Adapters need to be active adapters, not the cheap ($5.00) adapters you suggest.Actually, active MiniDP to DVI are only required for:a. Analog VGA monitors, and forb. Dual Link DVI (only used by monitors exceeding 1900 x 1200 resolution).All others (DVI monitors with 1900 x 1200 or less) can do with passive adapters.See: http://www.cpustuff.com/mini-display-port-...vi-adapter.htmlThe statement below sounds more like a a really excited user statement than a decision made after looking at all the facts.Now! Now! There is no need to be rude here just because your TH2G has been obsoleted!Finally, you also need to factor in the TH2G offers a single screen spread over up to three monitors, while the ATI HD 5870 Eyefinity offer up to six totally and completely independent screens.Now redo your calculations with $5 for the MiniDP to DVI adapters instead of $100, and repost your results.And next time please try not to be rude: We are all here because we enjoy flight simming and wish to help each other out so we can maximize our simming experience!Cheers,- jahman.
March 15, 201016 yr ------------------Finally, you also need to factor in the TH2G offers a single screen spread over up to three monitors, while the ATI HD 5870 Eyefinity offer up to six totally and completely independent screens.------------ jahman.jahman- Just so I understand exactly: can Eyefinity display multiple FS 2D Views- that is, for example, View Left Fwd on #1 monitor, View Fwd on #2 and View Right Fwd on #3?And if so, can multiple Eyefinity views/monitors be adjusted to take into account the precise widths of the monitor bezels separating the views- thus fully unifying the three views into a single pic?If it can do these things, it's a winner! Otherwise, not as useful in FS as multiple video cards.Are you an Eyefinity user? I would be grateful if you could test these questions.Alex Reid20 minutes later- PS I just had a look at the Eyefinity web site- in their list of games supported, they do NOT show Flight Sim as being either "Validated" or "Ready". Does that really mean what it seems??AR
March 15, 201016 yr jahman- Just so I understand exactly: can Eyefinity display multiple FS 2D Views- that is, for example, View Left Fwd on #1 monitor, View Fwd on #2 and View Right Fwd on #3? And if so, can multiple Eyefinity views/monitors be adjusted to take into account the precise widths of the monitor bezels separating the views- thus fully unifying the three views into a single pic?If it can do these things, it's a winner! Otherwise, not as useful in FS as multiple video cards.Alex ReidYes! The Eyefinity is a total winner!ATI Eyefinity Technology with DisplayPort connectivity, enables a single GPU to support up to six independent display outputs simultaneously.See for yourself: http://sites.amd.com/us/underground/produc...-eyefinity.aspxYour monitors can all be different sizes and resolutions, and each can be in portrait or landscape mode. So whatever you can do with 2 independent monitors on a 2 x DVI card you will now be able to do with six! So you can set-up your 2D views to your heart's content and without having to "hide" pixels behind your monitor bezels as TH2G requires you to do. But you can also "group" monitors into a single image, TH2G-style, although then you would have to hide the pixels behind the bezels (and I have no idea if the CatalystCC allows you to do that for the Eyefinity.)Are you an Eyefinity user? I would be grateful if you could test these questions...Not yet. I have to wait for this gear to trickle down to my neck of the woods :-( but it will be part of my next system!20 minutes later- PS I just had a look at the Eyefinity web site- in their list of games supported, they do NOT show Flight Sim as being either "Validated" or "Ready". Does that really mean what it seems??That means FSX is no longer a mainstream game (it is 3.4 years old!) and really bad at using multi-core CPUs and multi-GPU video cards, so manufacturars and reviewers tend to publish little information about how their products fare on FSX.But you could Google with "Eyefinity" and "FSX" (27k pages!) and report back :-) Also, anyone already using the card please add your user experience!Cheers,- jahman.
March 15, 201016 yr Yes! The Eyefinity is a total winner!See for yourself: http://sites.amd.com/us/underground/produc...-eyefinity.aspxYour monitors can all be different sizes and resolutions, and each can be in portrait or landscape mode. So whatever you can do with 2 independent monitors on a 2 x DVI card you will now be able to do with six! So you can set-up your 2D views to your heart's content and without having to "hide" pixels behind your monitor bezels as TH2G requires you to do. But you can also "group" monitors into a single image, TH2G-style, although then you would have to hide the pixels behind the bezels (and I have no idea if the CatalystCC allows you to do that for the Eyefinity.)Not yet. I have to wait for this gear to trickle down to my neck of the woods :-( but it will be part of my next system!That means FSX is no longer a mainstream game (it is 3.4 years old!) and really bad at using multi-core CPUs and multi-GPU video cards, so manufacturars and reviewers tend to publish little information about how their products fare on FSX.But you could Google with "Eyefinity" and "FSX" (27k pages!) and report back :-) Also, anyone already using the card please add your user experience!Cheers,- jahman.jahman- Eyefinity sounds promising! I have no interest in FSX but hopefully FS9 would also work.Thanks for your response. Looking forward to any reports from Eyefinity users.Alex Reid
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