Everything I've been able to find, including the PMDG manual says the J41 has a range of just over 700nm. But according to FSbuild, it can make it to Midway from Honolulu; a distance of about 1100 with less than 5000lbs of fuel and 4000lbs payload. That figure includes basic IFR reserves. I'm going to try and actually fly this Thursday evening or Friday and see what happens but is this really possible?

The answer probably lies in the way the FSBuild profile was set up. FSBuild is a fantastic program, so please don't think I'm blaming that software -- the profile for the J41 was probably not developed with any "science" in mind.I'd be more inclined to trust the manual.

Everything I've been able to find, including the PMDG manual says the J41 has a range of just over 700nm. But according to FSbuild, it can make it to Midway from Honolulu; a distance of about 1100 with less than 5000lbs of fuel and 4000lbs payload. That figure includes basic IFR reserves. I'm going to try and actually fly this Thursday evening or Friday and see what happens but is this really possible?

It would be an interesting experiment, but might I suggest you try it over land or get it fit with floats first?

I've found a couple of references to the JS 41 having a range of 1,490 nm with an 80% passenger load. Here is an example: http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projec...am41/specs.html

I know FSBuild is separate and might not be accurate but so far, I've landed with slightly more fuel than it said I would. It really looks like I could make it. Flying this range over land first does sound like a very good idea but i'm bored, it's a sim, and it looks more than possible. IRL, I probably wouldn't even try this over land even if there are reports of 1400nm range possibilities. I don't want to explain why I landed 500nm short of my filed destination.

I know FSBuild is separate and might not be accurate but so far, I've landed with slightly more fuel than it said I would. It really looks like I could make it. Flying this range over land first does sound like a very good idea but i'm bored, it's a sim, and it looks more than possible. IRL, I probably wouldn't even try this over land even if there are reports of 1400nm range possibilities. I don't want to explain why I landed 500nm short of my filed destination.

I was kidding about the over land flight, but do try and let us know if the ELT is modeled. You doing it without weather? I would think you're going into the wind otherwise.

I've found a couple of references to the JS 41 having a range of 1,490 nm with an 80% passenger load. Here is an example: http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projec...am41/specs.html

Tom, I found references to the definitive production standard on airliners.net indicating 1433KM or 774NM... 800nm is approx 1490km...That link of yours looks like there is a typo... Full load range around 800nm (which matches the airliners.net data more closely) and then 80% load nearly double the range? Sounds a little odd to me...Andrew

Tom, I found references to the definitive production standard on airliners.net indicating 1433KM or 774NM... 800nm is approx 1490km...That link of yours looks like there is a typo... Full load range around 800nm (which matches the airliners.net data more closely) and then 80% load nearly double the range? Sounds a little odd to me...

Here is another example: http://www.cfmjet.com/pdfs/Jetstream_perfo..._comparison.pdfCould very well be wrong, since they could all be using the same incorrect source. Wikipedia has the same range as Airliners.net - 774 nm - and the source looks reputable, but again this is probably a full load figure (it doesn't say).

Last night i finished the flight. Left HNL fully loaded, used weather (which gave me an average 17kt headwind), and landed about four hours later with 800lbs of fuel left. I didn't do anything special during the flight. I flew everything by the book. I don't know if the effects can even be simulated in FS but i did fly with an aft center of gravity (but within limits). Maybe that's what save me some fuel? Then again, even if it did, it probably wouldn't have been ~400nm worth.

For what it's worth, I've just tried a flight with full tanks and no passengers or cargo setting off from Blackpool (EGNH) and got as far as 30 nm south of Marrakech (GMMX) before running out of fuel - a distance of 1390nm approx