Let me start off by saying that I LOVE RC4, I rarely fly without it and I'm really excited to see what 5 will have to offer. But... I do dislike the controller attitudes, ESPECIALLY when you're being yelledat for something bogus. Let me give an example, controller gives me a new altitudeduring ascent, I reach over to adjust the AP, and within like 10 seconds I get thisreally SNOTTY "SIR WATCH YOUR ALTITUDE... blah blah blah", really ticks me offthat I don't have an option to say "SIR, why don't you chill and give the plane achance to ascend" or something much less polite :( You have some hard coded timing loop in there that times out to fast on fasterprocessors perhaps? I'd love to know how to keep this from happening.Keep up the great work!

Let me start off by saying that I LOVE RC4, I rarely fly without it and I'm really excited to see what 5 will have to offer. But... I do dislike the controller attitudes, ESPECIALLY when you're being yelledat for something bogus. Let me give an example, controller gives me a new altitudeduring ascent, I reach over to adjust the AP, and within like 10 seconds I get thisreally SNOTTY "SIR WATCH YOUR ALTITUDE... blah blah blah", really ticks me offthat I don't have an option to say "SIR, why don't you chill and give the plane achance to ascend" or something much less polite :( You have some hard coded timing loop in there that times out to fast on fasterprocessors perhaps? I'd love to know how to keep this from happening.Keep up the great work!

do you have pilot autoreply turned on? maybe you shout turn it off. then when you're told to descend, be ready to descend when you ack the clearance.you might also think about keeping the comms, so that the descent clearance isn't acknowledged, before you're readyby chance, are you running at 2x or 4x? that means you have to be 2x or 4x faster than normal.if none of that helps, make a log, duplicate the problem, and send it to me.jd

do you have pilot autoreply turned on? maybe you shout turn it off. then when you're told to descend, be ready to descend when you ack the clearance.you might also think about keeping the comms, so that the descent clearance isn't acknowledged, before you're readyby chance, are you running at 2x or 4x? that means you have to be 2x or 4x faster than normal.if none of that helps, make a log, duplicate the problem, and send it to me.jd

The way I have come to use RC, and to me feels most realistic, is to have Otto do the comms, in fact I give them to him at the gate, lets him set squawk and other trivia right off, I only intervenewhen I want to change something.I see what you're saying, if I was handling it I could defer the ack, and no, this has nothing to dowith acceleration, i never use that until cruise if at all.I really like having it configured this way, in fact it conforms to the way real flight crews operate,but I suppose I can switch control back to pilot during ascent to stop this.Thanks so much for the reply JD!

Oh, not really on topic, but will add this request for your nextgreat product, more female voices please, for crew as well ascontrollers. Would appreciate that!Lookin forward to it!

For that we'll need your girlfriends, wives and everybody else! Guys, enlist your gals! This is also a special request for the female members of our community to volunteer...

For that we'll need your girlfriends, wives and everybody else! Guys, enlist your gals! This is also a special request for the female members of our community to volunteer...

Mothers-in-law too! Wouldn't want them being sidelined. Authoritarian voices a real asset! MILs would be naturals! :(

Ah yes; the bad attitude you get from the controllers. It definitely gives you more incentive to fly a perfect flight than the default ATC that I mostly ignored. When they are telling you to drop 5000 feet AND get it below 230 kts, AND turn a heading; all the while, you are trying to get your checklists done and nav radios tuned in, double checking your approach plates. By the time you make it to the ground, its a relief!The way I see it: If I've gotten FSX to the point that it feels like a tedious job, and not a video game; I have finally set it up the right way!

Let me start off by saying that I LOVE RC4, I rarely fly without it and I'm really excited to see what 5 will have to offer. But... I do dislike the controller attitudes, ESPECIALLY when you're being yelledat for something bogus. Let me give an example, controller gives me a new altitudeduring ascent, I reach over to adjust the AP, and within like 10 seconds I get thisreally SNOTTY "SIR WATCH YOUR ALTITUDE... blah blah blah", really ticks me offthat I don't have an option to say "SIR, why don't you chill and give the plane achance to ascend" or something much less polite :( You have some hard coded timing loop in there that times out to fast on fasterprocessors perhaps? I'd love to know how to keep this from happening.Keep up the great work!

Ah yes; the bad attitude you get from the controllers. It definitely gives you more incentive to fly a perfect flight than the default ATC that I mostly ignored. When they are telling you to drop 5000 feet AND get it below 230 kts, AND turn a heading; all the while, you are trying to get your checklists done and nav radios tuned in, double checking your approach plates. By the time you make it to the ground, its a relief!The way I see it: If I've gotten FSX to the point that it feels like a tedious job, and not a video game; I have finally set it up the right way!

So true..come V5 I'm gonna start an Air Hauler career on max difficulty from some godforsaken field in the States. With their combined critique I'll have been critisized so much I won't know who I am anymore...by the way do check out AH as well, makes for a great career mode for FS. RC works great with it, too.

JD,Over my many years of running with RC, the amount of time alloted to complete a task seems to have gotten shorter to me as well. My honest theory is, that as computer speeds have greatly increased, the wait-time between wav files hasn't. Therfor the execution time is faster and you're given less time to complete the assignment (or ######'n-betty will get'ya), LOL....There does need to be more time between an assigment and the failed-to-comply trigger in V5.

JD,Over my many years of running with RC, the amount of time alloted to complete a task seems to have gotten shorter to me as well. My honest theory is, that as computer speeds have greatly increased, the wait-time between wav files hasn't. Therfor the execution time is faster and you're given less time to complete the assignment (or ######'n-betty will get'ya), LOL....There does need to be more time between an assigment and the failed-to-comply trigger in V5.

the timing of wavs playing has nothing to do with the speed of the machine.you have between 30 seconds and 60 seconds to reply that you are doing something as instructed. i don't start processing the wav to play until that time has elapsed. and that is elapsed time, not cpu speed time.if you have pilot autoreply, or the copilot on the comms, or you're flying accelerated time, then those times are different. if you are flying at 4x, you have to be 4 times faster at acknowledging and starting a climb, descent or turnif the copilot or pilot auto reply, you have no time. well you have the time it takes for the copilot to reply.so if this is a problem, don't fly at 4x, handle the comms yourself, and disable pilot auto-reply.i personally fly at 1x, and i acknowledge everything myself and never have a problem. your nautical mileage may vary.jd

Thanks JD - just for clarification, I mostly fly at 1x with Otto handling comms. I don't know how much different this is than handling my own comms, but it's definitly not 30 or 60 seconds when Otto has it, which would be nice if it were. The same thing also applies to climb (watch your altitude errors); which often the more elaborate FMC and autopilots such as the LVD and PMDG will sometimes level-off (or only a couple of hundred feet per min) for a few seconds to keep the assigned speed, and RC triggers the (watch your altitude) warning with 10 seconds or so. It these quick (little time) to trigger threshholds that need to be relaxed.

Thanks JD - just for clarification, I mostly fly at 1x with Otto handling comms. I don't know how much different this is than handling my own comms, but it's definitly not 30 or 60 seconds when Otto has it, which would be nice if it were. The same thing also applies to climb (watch your altitude errors); which often the more elaborate FMC and autopilots such as the LVD and PMDG will sometimes level-off (or only a couple of hundred feet per min) for a few seconds to keep the assigned speed, and RC triggers the (watch your altitude) warning with 10 seconds or so. It these quick (little time) to trigger threshholds that need to be relaxed.

you do the comms, and see if you have 30 or 60 seconds to respond before admonishment. otto was originally designed to fly and do the comms. when he does both, it's not an issue. but since otto can't fly many of the 3rd party planes, you're going to have problems when you are told to climb, otto acknowledges it within 2 seconds, and you're not climbing after 10 seconds...do the comms for a flight. see the difference.jd

Man, after 20 years of playing this game and earning my way up to ATP command captian, you want me to degrade myself to working comms duties too? :( I don't remember how, LOL... That's Otto's job.... :( I'm sure you're right and I will try it - but, can we have an option in V5 where warning times for Otto comms have the same delay as if we are handling our own comms? It would help a lot on the big-rigs whereby we are already performing the duties of two or three pilots which is a little unrealistic to begin with.

I agree fully.

I think Al has a point, I've watched ITVV videos, and the first officer is responding to ATC request,it doesnt mean the moment he responds the execution has begun, I think he responds, then thechange is executed.I don't much care about Otto flying the plane, but as I said earlier, I think having him handlethe comms feels VERY realistic, and I guess Al does the same.I can live with it, but for 5 it would be nice...Cheers,