July 30, 201015 yr Moderator Hi Jim.First off let me say that aside from the problem I am about to explain I have gotten a lot of enjoyment out of ASE, but this one thing has been a problem for me since I can last remember. The only reason that it took me so long to post or ask about it, is frankly just because I was too lazy to take the time to take the screen shots and document it, and it was easier to just live with it. However, it has finally annoyed me enough to take the time to try to get it corrected.Here is the problem. When I have a flight active ASE will show me that at an airport like SBGR for example, the wind will be comming from 270 at 15kts. This is great to know because when I am planning my descent I will know to expect to land on runway 27R or 27L. The problem is that when I actually get to the airport the winds being depicted to FSX are the exact opposite. FSX ATIS and tower will be telling all the AI planes to land on 9R or 9L. The depiction of the actual weather and barometer seem to be correct however. The funny thing is, that once I land at the airport, then the winds suddenly change to the correct direction and ATC begins to bring the planes in on the correct runway. This happens about 99% of the time when flying from one airport to another and is really frustrating since the info from ASE seems like its not being put into FSX until I have actually landed at the arrival airport.Here are the steps I take when I begin so you can check to make sure I have it correct in my set up. I am running FSX on a networked computer so keep that in mind.1. Start ASE on the networked computer2. Once ASE is fully loaded and ready start FSX on the other computer.3. Go into ASE while FSX is loading at put the flight plan in the briefing.4. Once FSX is loaded, select plane, airport, and time.5. Once the FSX flight is loaded and I am at the gate, I go into ASE and hit the refresh AI button.6. Setup the flight plane in the FMC and use the weather info from ASE to preplan my destination runway arrival and STAR.7. Depart the airport. At this time the winds and everything sync up with what ASE says.8. About 100 miles out check the weather and winds at the arrival airport in ASE then program the FMC to make sure I am going to be arriving the correct direction to land.9. Once I am within radio contact of the arrival airport I contact tower to land and they give me the opposite runway that should be used as well as telling the AI to land on the wrong direction as well. Even FSX ATIS is reporting the wrong wind info compared to what ASE says it is.10. Try hitting the AI refresh button again. Still no change. Wrong wind direction at airport and AI still comming in the wrong way.11. Zap the AI using my hot key in UT2, or continue to land in the right direction risking a head on collision.12. Once I land and start to taxi, within a few minutes if I stay on the tower frequency, the tower will being to use the correct wind directino being reported by ASE.Here are screen prints of my ASE settings. One last thing. I have FSUIPC installed just for using ADE. It's the unregistered version and when I am not using ADE, I usually have FSUIPC disabled in the dll.xml so it doesn't even load when using FSX.All other addons you may need to know are listed in my signature.According to the screen shots, it says on the ASE UI that I am using build 566.I hope that I have given you all the info you need to help me seek a solution to this problem. It would be really nice if I could get ASE to load the wind info into all the stations in FSX so that when I arrive at my airport the planes are all landing in the right direction besides just me.Thanks in advance for the help.Sean Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 30, 201015 yr Hi,Your ASE Build should be 572 so that is step one. Once you do that, then let's see what happens for you. Please let us know.
July 31, 201015 yr Author Moderator Hi,Your ASE Build should be 572 so that is step one. Once you do that, then let's see what happens for you. Please let us know.Ok, I will download and install it and report back. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 1, 201015 yr Author Moderator Jim,Yesterday I downloaded and installed the SP1 to get me to Build 572.Today I spent a few hours testing and here's what I found.Flew from Cairo Intl to Pafos in Cyrpus and when I arrived in Pafor the winds were almost the exact opposite of what ASE said they were. ASE said the winds were from 225 at 5kts and FSX was at 158 at 15 kts. So needless to say, FSX was bringing in the AI from the opposite direction.Then I flew from Pafos, Cyprus to Istanbul, Turkey and ASE had the winds comming from 350 at 10 kts and FSX had the winds comming from 160 at 5 kts. Again almost the opposite and the AI was from the wrong direction again.In both instances I had refresh the AI from the ASE UI but it didn't make any difference.Also in both cases the winds didn't depict correctly until I had actually landed at the airport. I'm not sure what is causing this but I saw in this thread http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=279187 that a lot of other people are having the same problem.Lastly I will say that since I did the Ap1 update the cloud depictions and visibility seems to be much better, but alas the destination winds are not working right.I'll stay tuned and see what you have to say. Regards Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 2, 201015 yr Author Moderator Hi,In your case, try with DWC turned off and see what happens.Hi Jim.I was busy all day and didn't get a chance to check Avsim for your reply. I will give turning off DWC a try and see if that makes a difference, but shouldn't the arrival winds be correct even with DWC turned on?I will give it a try tonight and report back. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 2, 201015 yr Hi,The actual winds should be correct, but ATIS might have them wrong as might the AI system in FS. In general, people need to understand what Global weather means and does in FS. Since FS02 the idea of Global weather has not been used much.
August 3, 201015 yr If I can jump in here for a second, the windsock is not in agreement with the wind direction reported by ASE. It does correct itself after landing, though. I really wish a patch would be released to fix this. Curt Branch
August 3, 201015 yr Author Moderator Jim,I had a chance to do 4 flights today to test and see if disabling DWC helped the situation. In the first two flights I did this morning it seemed to work better as far as getting the AI to sync with what ASE is reporting for the particular airport.Later in the day I did 2 more flights. The first one from Rio to Sao Paulo. In this flight ASE was reporting wind comming from 170 degrees which should have resulted in me landing on either runway 9L or 9R. However ATC was bring all the a/c in on runway 27L and 27R.Then I did a return flight and the weather in Rio according to ASE was comming from 000 degrees which would have had me landing on runway 33 or 28, however ATC instructed me and all the AI to runway 10. Like before, once I landed after a while it seemed like ATC corrected and started bringing in the AI from the correct direction.In a way this is very frustrating because of having AI landing in the wrong direction. Fortunately when this happens I am lucky because using Ultimate Traffic 2, I can "Clear Approach" with one key stroke to make the head on AI collisions not happen.Is there anyway to get ASE to hard write the weather to the FSX weather stations so that what ASE is reporting is also in sync with what FSX is doing? I understand if this is not possible using DWC, but it would be nice to have to keep everything running smoothly. It seems like in the older version of Active Sky years ago when I was using this product in FS9 that it wrote the weather to the stations in FS9 and they would match what Active Sky was reporting.I do have a few other question as it reports to this as well. In the ASE map as shown below it indicates Clouds Overcast at 900 feet. I had always though this to mean that the 900 feet would be 900 above sea level or does it mean 900 feet above ground level? The reason I ask is because the airports evelvation at SBGR is around 2450 feet, so how can there be clouds at 900 ASL, unless of course the 900 feet is AGL. Also in the other flight I tried this morning ASE was report at an airport in Greece that visibility was 10 SM and FSX was reporting 3 SM. When I arrived the visibility seemed more like the 3 SM that FSX was reporting rather than the 10 SM that ASE was reporting. See the screen shot below. I am about 2.3 miles from touch down and visibility isn't that great, more like 3 SM rather than the 10 SM that ASE said. It almost seems like FSX is taking parts of what ASE is telling it as far as winds and visibility and mixing it with what FSX has. Like in the screen shot above FSX was using the winds ASE reported, but was depicting the visibility that FSX was saying. Kind of like it picking and choosing what to use. Is it at all possible to get ASE and FSX to match up, or is this just the way it will be going forward? I really love ASE and can imagine not using it, but it can be frustrating at times when the wind and visibility depictions dont seem to match up when your comming in to land. I will check back in the moring to see what you say since its the middle of the night.BTW, the what the other fellow said above about the wind sock happens to me as well.Thanks again for the help.Sean Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 3, 201015 yr This thread solved it for me:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...25&start=25Best wishesSteve Stephen Munn
August 3, 201015 yr Sean,Lock to Closest needs to be checked On. You were 5940 miles away.Clouds are above ground level and has been fixed in your B572 version.Turn Off DWC and you will have totally station based weather as you do in FS9.
August 3, 201015 yr Author Moderator Sean,Lock to Closest needs to be checked On. You were 5940 miles away.Jim, yes I keep it on lock to closest. It was only unchecked because I open that station after I was done to take a screen shot.Clouds are above ground level and has been fixed in your B572 version.That's good to know that it is above ground level. I always thought the cloud layers reported were above sea level.Turn Off DWC and you will have totally station based weather as you do in FS9.Jim, I apologize for the confusion, but that is what I posted that I did was get rid of DWC and I am still having the issues with the winds not being correct 100% of the time at the destination.I read the link that the fellow above posted about changing the slider for dynamic weather to 100% in ASE. I will give that a try and see if that makes any difference.Aside from all the things I tried with disabling DWC is there any other way to get the ASE station data to reflect in FSX? Like I mention before, even with DWC turned off FSX seems to be using some of its own settings in addition to some of the ASE settings, like taking wind from FSX station and clouds/visibility from ASE. Or sometimes the reverse.Thanks again for the help. I will check back to see what you suggest I try.RegardsSeanThis thread solved it for me:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...25&start=25Best wishesSteveThanks Steve for the info. I will try setting the dynamic weather to 100% in ASE and see if it helps. Also I will wait for Jim and see if he has any more ideas for me to get the destination winds to match. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 4, 201015 yr Author Moderator This thread solved it for me:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...25&start=25Best wishesSteveSteve, I tried the suggestion in that thread and am happy two say that after 2 flights it seems to be working better. I still have DWC turned off but I set the Dyanamic Rate of Change slider im ASE to 100% and turned off the turbulence/thermals box in FSX. Also with the reduced sliders in the ASE boxes it seems to keep the sudden wind shifts to a minimum since I dont have FSUIPC or DWC.Overall in the last two flights I tested it seems like the sky/cloud/visibility depiction seemed better, but even more satisfying, the arrival winds were more on par with what FSX was directing the AI to do. I will leave the settings alone for now and keep testing but its looking promising.Thanks for pointing out that thread. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 4, 201015 yr Hi Sean,Thats good news. If you want an exact weather match at the destination, this thread has some fsx.cfg tweaks that are susposed to fix it. I'm still testing these myself, but it does appear to have some merit.http://www2.hifisim.com/node/1243Best wishesSteve Stephen Munn
August 4, 201015 yr Author Moderator Hi Sean,Thats good news. If you want an exact weather match at the destination, this thread has some fsx.cfg tweaks that are susposed to fix it. I'm still testing these myself, but it does appear to have some merit.http://www2.hifisim.com/node/1243Best wishesSteveThanks again for more info. I will go check that thread right now. I can say though that the 3 flights I did today were much more enjoyable and depiction seemed much better. For the first time in a while I was really happy with ASE's performance.Regards,Sean Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
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