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Momentum Effect (Sorry!)

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Hi Tom,I also tried the word FALSE, it seems both NO and FALSE work on my system for stopping the MomentumEffect in both default & 3rd. party aircraft. I'm at a loss, I don't know why it won't work on your system.Do you have FSX Service Packs 1 and 2 installed and/or FSX Acceleration?.

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I Changed Both.
I checked my fsx.cfg.There are quite a few values[DynamicHeadMovement]LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000MaxHeadAngle=5.000000MaxHeadOffset=0.300000HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000Suggest you set all these to 0
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I checked my fsx.cfg.There are quite a few values[DynamicHeadMovement]LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000MaxHeadAngle=5.000000MaxHeadOffset=0.300000HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000Suggest you set all these to 0
That too has no effect.
Hi Tom,I also tried the word FALSE, it seems both NO and FALSE work on my system for stopping the MomentumEffect in both default & 3rd. party aircraft. I'm at a loss, I don't know why it won't work on your system.Do you have FSX Service Packs 1 and 2 installed and/or FSX Acceleration?.
SP 1 and 2 are installed.Acceleration is negative.Is that needed?

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Hi Tom,Acceleration is not needed, I run SP1 & SP2 and it works fine for me so that's not the problem.You could try removing the MomentumEffect from the config files and see what happens, just place a // in front of all your MomentumEffect=No entries in your camera and aircraft config files and see what happens.It should look like this//MomentumEffect=NoThis way if it doesn't work you could just remove the //

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Hi Tom,Acceleration is not needed, I run SP1 & SP2 and it works fine for me so that's not the problem.You could try removing the MomentumEffect from the config files and see what happens, just place a // in front of all your MomentumEffect=No entries in your camera and aircraft config files and see what happens.It should look like this//MomentumEffect=NoThis way if it doesn't work you could just remove the //
Ok, i'll give it a try!

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Still the same.I don't know what it is.Tom

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Hi Tom,You changed the Cameras.cfg file located in your: C:\Users\Your User Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSXandThe aircraft.cfg file for the aircraft in question, located in your: FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes sub folder.I don't know why it won't work.Maybe you can copy/paste-or-attach your Cameras.cfg and an aircraft.cfg file so they can be reviewed.

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Hi Tom,You changed the Cameras.cfg file located in your: C:\Users\Your User Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSXandThe aircraft.cfg file for the aircraft in question, located in your: FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes sub folder.I don't know why it won't work.Maybe you can copy/paste-or-attach your Cameras.cfg and an aircraft.cfg file so they can be reviewed.
Ok, here they areThe cameras.cfg:[Cameradefinition.001]Title=CockpitGuid={B1386D92-4782-4682-A137-738E25D1BAB5}Description=This is the description of the cockpit viewOrigin=CockpitShowPanel=YesSnapPbhAdjust=OrdinalSnapPbhReturn=TruePanPbhAdjust=OrdinalPanPbhReturn=TrueTrack=NoneShowAxis=FrontOnlyAllowZoom=TRUEInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=TRUEShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=CockpitHotKeySelect=2[CameraDefinition.002]Title=Virtuelles CockpitGuid={C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078}Description=This is the description of the virtual cockpit view.Origin=Virtual Cockpit//MomentumEffect=FalseSnapPbhAdjust=SwivelSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=NoneShowAxis=YESAllowZoom=TRUEInitialZoom=0.5SmoothZoomTime=2.0ZoomPanScalar=1.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=TRUEShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=CockpitPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0HotKeySelect=1Onaccelonheadlon= 0Lonaccelonheadpitch= 0Rollaccelonheadlat= 0Yawaccelonheadlat= 0Rollaccelonheadroll= 0Maxheadangle= 0Maxheadoffset= 0Headmovetimeconstant= 0[Cameradefinition.003]Title=BeobachterGuid={BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00C}Description=This is the description of the spot view.Origin=CenterSnapPbhAdjust=OrdinalSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=FlatChaseShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=YesShowLensFlare=TRUECategory=OutsideClipMode=SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0[Cameradefinition.004]Title=Fester BeobachterGuid={BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00D}Description=This is the description of the spot view.Origin=CenterSnapPbhAdjust=SwivelSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=FlatChaseLockedShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=YesShowLensFlare=TRUECategory=OutsideClipMode=SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0HotKeySelect=3[Cameradefinition.005]Title=VorbeiflugGuid={6B79DD49-9B4A-439D-BF40-ACBF157B0BA0}Description=This is the description of the fly by view.Origin=CenterSnapPbhAdjust=SwivelSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=FlyByShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=10.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoChaseDistance=500ChaseHeading=15ChaseAltitude=10ChaseTime=20ShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=OutsideClipMode=Tower[Cameradefinition.006]Title=VogelperspektiveGuid={A2849229-938A-448f-8AC6-01EF2291C171}Description=This is the description of the map or top down view.Origin=CenterSnapPbhAdjust=OrthogonalPanPbhAdjust=OrthogonalTrack=NoneShowAxis=YesAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=256SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=NoXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=OutsideHotKeySelect=4[Cameradefinition.007]Title=Nächster KontrollturmGuid={60BC0819-BD04-4AF6-8954-8FC8AA3545FF}Description=This is the description of the tower view.Origin=TowerSnapPbhAdjust=SwivelSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=TrackShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=8.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=TowerClipMode=TowerNoSortTitle=True[Cameradefinition.008]Title=Einrichtungen - KontrollturmGuid={AA8C80C0-9EE2-4284-A1C2-B20CD3F5F3D9}Description=This is the description of the tower view.Origin=FixedInstancedBased=YesSnapPbhAdjust=NonePanPbhAdjust=NoneTrack=TrackShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=8.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=TowerCycleHideRadius=7ClipMode=Tower[Cameradefinition.009]Title=Einrichtungen - Start-/LandebahnGuid={607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F}Description=This is the description of the runway view.Origin=Virtual CockpitInstancedBased=YesSnapPbhAdjust=NonePanPbhAdjust=NoneTargetCategory=FixedTrack=TrackBankShowAxis=YesAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=RunwayCycleHideRadius=7ClipMode=TowerCycleHidden=Yes[Cameradefinition.010]Title=KI-FlugzeugeGuid={75A8357E-AB58-4294-9416-90C73FAFDD90}Description=This is the description of the AI aircraft view.Origin=CenterSnapPbhAdjust=SwivelSnapPbhReturn=FalsePanPbhAdjust=SwivelPanPbhReturn=FalseTrack=FlatChaseLockedInstancedBased=YesShowAxis=NoAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=TRUECategory=AirTrafficTargetCategory=ContainerClipMode=SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0CycleHidden=Yes[Cameradefinition.011]Title=MultiplayerflugzeugeGuid={2559BCED-9F13-4bc0-88C8-3996B9311681}Description=This is the description of the Multiplayer other aircraft view.Origin=Virtual CockpitInstancedBased=YesSnapPbhAdjust=NonePanPbhAdjust=NoneTargetCategory=ContainerTrack=TrackBankShowAxis=YesAllowZoom=YesInitialZoom=1.0SmoothZoomTime=2.0ShowWeather=YesXyzAdjust=FALSETransition=NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory=MultiPlayerCycleHideRadius=7ClipMode=TowerCycleHidden=YesAnd the aircraft.cfg (Camera part):[CameraDefinition.0]Title = "Right Side Window"Guid = {26BD9014-0ECA-4367-AC91-BF988CF045AB}Description = View of the right wing from the passenger cabinOrigin = Virtual CockpitSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FALSEPanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FALSETrack = NoneShowAxis = FALSEAllowZoom = TRUEInitialZoom = 0.9ShowWeather = Yes//InitialXyz = side 3.2, alt 1.8,long -5InitialXyz = 1.7, 0.06, -12.05InitialPbh = 5, 0, 100XyzAdjust = TRUECategory=Aircraft//MomentumEffect=FalseClipMode=Minimum[CameraDefinition.1]Title = "Landing Gear"Guid = {96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB051}Description = View of the landing gear and left wing inboard flapsOrigin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FALSEPanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FALSETrack = NoneShowAxis = FALSEAllowZoom = TRUEInitialZoom = .52ShowWeather = YesInitialXyz = 1.7, 0.06, -12.05InitialPbh = 5, 0, 100XyzAdjust = TRUECategory=Aircraft//MomentumEffect=FalseClipMode=Minimum[CameraDefinition.001]Title="Right Seat"InitialXyz= 1.1, 0.09, 0.239InitialPbh=00, 0, 0Guid = {8ff6c134-098d-409f-baec-caba3f683f98}Origin = Virtual Cockpit//MomentumEffect = FalseSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = NoneShowAxis = YESAllowZoom = TRUEInitialZoom = .5SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ZoomPanScalar = 1.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = TRUEShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = CockpitPitchPanRate=20HeadingPanRate=60Maybe this helps.Tom

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//MomentumEffect = FalseWhy have you this commented out???

Hi,This was the last option that was tried. Both FALSE and NO do not work.

//MomentumEffect = FalseWhy have yout his commented out???

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Hi,This was the last option that was tried. Both FALSE and NO do not work.
Any news about my settings?Thanks so much!

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Any news about my settings?Thanks so much!
I'm thinking that you have the momentum effect successfully disabled but you are now seeing the 'shifting viewpoint' that affects VC's of large aircraft and which is described in excellent detail in this post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/285331-ezdok-and-the-fsx-shifting-viewpoint-bug/. Just a thought...Best regards,Jim
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Ok, Firehawk,i never heard of this bug. I think thats the point.Thanks for the link. Now i have to wait with all others for this bug to be fixed.Thanks again to all who tried to help me out!Cheers from EDDW!Tom

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Hi,I guess I must be lucky, I run the Level-D 767 99% of the time and it works fine on my system.

I'm thinking that you have the momentum effect successfully disabled but you are now seeing the 'shifting viewpoint' that affects VC's of large aircraft and which is described in excellent detail in this post: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/285331-ezdok-and-the-fsx-shifting-viewpoint-bug/. Just a thought...Best regards,Jim

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//MomentumEffect = FalseWhy have yout his commented out???
Maybe I'm missing something that has already been said but if your cfg files are as posted above, if you have the two "//" (forward slashes) in front of the "MomentumEffect=False" statement you have rendered that statement useless and that statement is having no effect on your system. Putting the forward slashes in front of a cfg line is like putting in a comment in the cfg file. Because you have the forward slashes there it isn't turning the effect off, what is happening is FSX isn't seeing the momentum statement so it is reverting to the default state which is probably "MomentumEffect=True". You need to remove the two forward slashes on your entries and try again.Todd

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