Has anyone tried the new 260.89 drivers?Thoughts?Anrew dixon

Just installed them today using Ryan's post as a guide and they seem to work great for me!Brandon Burkley

I am using them and I think I may be seeing a performance increase. With the PMDG 747X I am seeing framerates staying near 30fps much more often, and I am only dropping to around 18-25 fps in the most demanding situations. Coming into FlyTampa's Kai Tak today with all of their graphics options maxed I was seeing 24-25 fps consistently.

for me, using drivers > 197.45 (even 260.89 ) make a menu crash (black screen) when i use menus in fsx . This happen even if i use the uiautomationcore.dll method. I own a 8800 gts I don't understand why. I've seen this problem even after reinstalling fsx. the only way for me to run stable is to use v197.45 driver!!!

recent tests show me that the problem occur only if antialiasing or anisotropic is set on in fsx and not with all planes. It seems there is no problem with small planes.

No problems at all with them for me.Btw guys, I'm pretty sure any perceived gains in FSX from a video driver update at this point are largely placebo, especially if your card is older than the 4xx series. It's an old app at this point and I'm sure they're not directly implementing any optimizations or anything like that specifically for FSX. 4xx series cards may see some occasional benefit because it's new hardware and they may still be optimizing it overall across all games. But the age of the sim combined with the fact that it's very CPU limited to begin with probably precludes any major improvements to it from a new driver. Now, if you want to talk about newer games that tons of people are buying that really rely on the GPU, then sure, it's possible to see improvements. Nvidia lists all the specific game improvements in their release notes - it's been many many years since FSX appeared in that list.

No problems at all with them for me.Btw guys, I'm pretty sure any perceived gains in FSX from a video driver update at this point are largely placebo, especially if your card is older than the 4xx series. It's an old app at this point and I'm sure they're not directly implementing any optimizations or anything like that specifically for FSX. 4xx series cards may see some occasional benefit because it's new hardware and they may still be optimizing it overall across all games. But the age of the sim combined with the fact that it's very CPU limited to begin with probably precludes any major improvements to it from a new driver. Now, if you want to talk about newer games that tons of people are buying that really rely on the GPU, then sure, it's possible to see improvements. Nvidia lists all the specific game improvements in their release notes - it's been many many years since FSX appeared in that list.

I have a QX6800 OC'd to 3.4GHZ with a GTX 280 and you wouldn't believe that the best performance and picture quality was achieved by reverting back to the trusty 182.50 drivers and enhancer. I spent the whole day installing and testing the new drivers and nvidia inspector but on my system the latest and greatest isn't always better. I will now stick with this combination until an upgrade.FSX is a funny animal!Andrew Dixon

I have a QX6800 OC'd to 3.4GHZ with a GTX 280 and you wouldn't believe that the best performance and picture quality was achieved by reverting back to the trusty 182.50 drivers and enhancer. I spent the whole day installing and testing the new drivers and nvidia inspector but on my system the latest and greatest isn't always better. I will now stick with this combination until an upgrade.FSX is a funny animal!Andrew Dixon

Again, I'm gonna have to say placebo here unless you can prove otherwise with actual numbers, IQ comparison screens etc - sorry. Nvidia Inspector and Nhancer both do the exact same thing - they're just setting mode flags that already exist inside the Nvidia driver but aren't accessible through the normal default driver control panel. Which one you use makes no difference at all as far as how things look - they set the exact same flags in the driver. I've gone back and tried old drivers too, I see no performance or image quality difference vs. the newer ones. It doesn't really make any sense that there would be any - FSX is ancient by comparison to the development of all these driver versions and like I said earlier here, Nvidia's not going to go and change performance or image quality in a single old game like FSX and then not tell anyone about it.

Again, I'm gonna have to say placebo here unless you can prove otherwise with actual numbers, IQ comparison screens etc - sorry. Nvidia Inspector and Nhancer both do the exact same thing - they're just setting mode flags that already exist inside the Nvidia driver but aren't accessible through the normal default driver control panel. Which one you use makes no difference at all as far as how things look - they set the exact same flags in the driver. I've gone back and tried old drivers too, I see no performance or image quality difference vs. the newer ones. It doesn't really make any sense that there would be any - FSX is ancient by comparison to the development of all these driver versions and like I said earlier here, Nvidia's not going to go and change performance or image quality in a single old game like FSX and then not tell anyone about it.

Ryan,With all due respect this is not a placebo effect. On my computer the new drivers and nvidia inspector causes a snow like effect on runways and fences. Each system is different and these are the effects on my system. Why would I post this if it was BS!!!!I will reiterate - the 182.50 drivers are better on my system. I just made an observation that I shared on this forum and didn't expect to be shot down in flames.

Got these drivers recently and they running without problems over here. I didn´t pay attention on frame rates, but my PC is so processor limited (Athlon FX-60 @ 2.86 GHz) that I think I won´t get even a placebo :)

Ryan,With all due respect this is not a placebo effect. On my computer the new drivers and nvidia inspector causes a snow like effect on runways and fences. Each system is different and these are the effects on my system. Why would I post this if it was BS!!!!I will reiterate - the 182.50 drivers are better on my system. I just made an observation that I shared on this forum and didn't expect to be shot down in flames.

You didn't say that you were seeing a visual artifacting problem with the new ones, you said "the best performance and picture quality was achieved by reverting" - I wouldn't have doubted it nearly as much if you'd said you had a specific problem like that. People really need to stop taking what I say as some sort of mean spirited attempt to "shoot things down" too - that's not at all what I meant.Are you overclocking the card at all? Our cards are very similar (my 260 is a 280 with some cores disabled) and I know there's others using 280s with the newer drivers.

260.89 are outdated, the newest release is 260.99. I've been using 260.89 since release day without single problem and 260.99 seems alright either.

260.89 are outdated, the newest release is 260.99. I've been using 260.89 since release day without single problem and 260.99 seems alright either.

Good catch - this would be the Fallout New Vegas optimization driver... they usually will do a quick release like this right after a really big new game comes out.

Well, I recently changed my 9600 to a GTX460 (1024MB), and have a lot of problems with it in FSX - BSODs (that seems to have stopped after manually changing NV4_disp.dll to a newer version), artefacts... but occasionally I can play a bit around with it. Like yesterday. In the "Africa relief" mission I got up to 70 FPS - something I've never ever seen before in FSX. That was with the 260.99 drivers (upgraded from 260.89). I still use WinXP 32bit BTW - I guess NVidia doesn't pay too much attention to a decade-old OS based on a 2-decade old architecture.

I still use WinXP 32bit BTW - I guess NVidia doesn't pay too much attention to a decade-old OS based on a 2-decade old architecture.

Not to be a wise guy here Gert, but neither should you :wink:If your getting BSD's, is your new system up to date on it's chipset drivers and such?