November 4, 201015 yr Probably a thread in the main forums but I don't go there very often and I suspect some others are the same, for those who are interestedhttp://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/qantas-jet-engine-fails-witnesses-tell-of-hearing-explosion-20101104-17f49.html?autostart=1Leaving Singapore for Sydney. The last picture shows much of the peices that fell to the ground, unusual for a modern engine designed to contain failures to let go like that. All Qantas A380's are temporarily grounded. No one was harmed.EDITOur local news broadcasts are treating this like a crash... Totally over blowing it. Jay Vorkapic
November 4, 201015 yr EDITOur local news broadcasts are treating this like a crash... Totally over blowing it."NEWS ALERT: Qantas Airbus A380 SECONDS FROM DISASTER as debris falls from the engine. Thousands on the ground nearly killed by falling aircraft debris. Passengers brace for impact as Captain Kangaroo struggles to bring the crashing airliner down onto the runway for a emergency crash landing! Passengers terrified for their lives as they miraculously survive the close encounter with death." - Typical Aviation journalism, lol. :( Rolls Royce is going to have fun with this one. Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
November 4, 201015 yr Commercial Member Love the thread title :) Our local news broadcasts are treating this like a crash... Totally over blowing it.What's new...This is another hit for RR though, they've had a few pretty serious uncontained failures over the last year - QF 744 on climbout from LAX, Trent 1000 on testbed, now this - come to mind. More bad press for QF too, they've had some exceptionally bad luck over the last couple of years. <a href="http://www.flyaoamedia.com"><img src="http://angleofattack.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/aoasiggy.png"/></a> Nick Collett i5 2500k @ 4.4GHz, GTX 480, 8GB Corsair 8-8-8-24, 300GB WD Velociraptor, Corsair HX850W
November 4, 201015 yr I have to agree with the bad journalism. I was literally screaming at the television this afternoon as they dedicated half the news broadcast to this "miracle survival" and spoke to various aviation "experts" whils stating various times that the "pilot struggled with his damaged craft for several terrifying minutes"I can't belive they set up a hotline for worried friends and relatives.it dosent look good though, it appears to have burnt at sometime, and obviosly was uncontained. If I was in charge of marketing for Emirates I would be stating to the australian public that there birds are safer as they arnt fitted with the rr engine.
November 4, 201015 yr Commercial Member "miricle survival" I can't stand it when they refer to these things as 'miracles'. The idea of a 'Miracle on the Hudson' really annoys me, it wasn't a miracle, it was an example of outstanding airmanship from the flightcrew; I think calling it a miracle is frankly insulting to their work. <a href="http://www.flyaoamedia.com"><img src="http://angleofattack.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/aoasiggy.png"/></a> Nick Collett i5 2500k @ 4.4GHz, GTX 480, 8GB Corsair 8-8-8-24, 300GB WD Velociraptor, Corsair HX850W
November 4, 201015 yr +1. If I was flying one of these aircraft and everyone was told it was a miracle It got down I would be very offended
November 4, 201015 yr I can't stand it when they refer to these things as 'miracles'. The idea of a 'Miracle on the Hudson' really annoys me, it wasn't a miracle, it was an example of outstanding airmanship from the flightcrew; I think calling it a miracle is frankly insulting to their work.I think 99% of the pilots (AND A LOT OF SIMMERS) would have landed that A319 with the same results. Just another day at the office - no miracle - but these guys are good. Paul Gugliotta
November 4, 201015 yr I think 99% of the pilots (AND A LOT OF SIMMERS) would have landed that A319 with the same results. Just another day at the office - no miracle - but these guys are good.That's not true... It was some exceptional flying and a bit of luck that came in to play when landing that jet in the Hudson. They we're lucky that the weather was pretty good so the're weren't any big waves etc. 'bout the A380, maybe it has something to do with the volcano erupting on Indonesia? Just a guess. I don't think it will be a designing mistake. Hauke Verrept
November 4, 201015 yr Commercial Member I mentioned in a another post, ignoring all the media hype... the big deal here is not the fact that a engine failed, it's the fact that a hole was blown in the wing in multiple areas, also look at the landing gear, the nose doors are still open, suggesting a HYD fault.Engines are not supposed to rip holes in aircraft when they go bang. If something like a piece of metal from a DC10 can cause a cascade of failures that brings down Concorde then anything's possible. RR is going to have to come up with some good answers.. Rob Prest
November 4, 201015 yr Commercial Member RR is going to have to come up with some good answers..It'll be interesting to see if this has any relation to the Trent 1000 uncontained failure in August this year. RR has had a few high profile problems recently, it's a shame. <a href="http://www.flyaoamedia.com"><img src="http://angleofattack.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/aoasiggy.png"/></a> Nick Collett i5 2500k @ 4.4GHz, GTX 480, 8GB Corsair 8-8-8-24, 300GB WD Velociraptor, Corsair HX850W
November 4, 201015 yr Love the thread title :)What's new...This is another hit for RR though, they've had a few pretty serious uncontained failures over the last year - QF 744 on climbout from LAX, Trent 1000 on testbed, now this - come to mind. More bad press for QF too, they've had some exceptionally bad luck over the last couple of years.Wasn't that the flight the Capt. was criticized for continuing the flight after losing the engine soon after takeoff. Richard Spencer Churchill PVT SEL GYSGT USMC (ret)
November 4, 201015 yr Commercial Member Wasn't that the flight the Capt. was criticized for continuing the flight after losing the engine soon after takeoff.No, that was a well known female captain for BA Rob Prest
November 4, 201015 yr I think 99% of the pilots (AND A LOT OF SIMMERS) would have landed that A319 with the same results. Just another day at the office - no miracle - but these guys are good.I challenge you to try it in the sim. You have one go and one go only.
November 4, 201015 yr "Oh no, only on three engines now, lets hope we have enough thrust to make it to the crash site" Captain Kangaroo.:( Alexander Brinson
November 4, 201015 yr I challenge you to try it in the sim. You have one go and one go only.I concur. What I find insulting is that someone would think that armchair pilots could possibly land a fully loaded airliner in a rwy (let alone the water!) with the same results as a captain who´s got more hours in the air than most species of birds achieve in a lifetime. I used to think that because I could push buttons around in a glass cockpit in a desktop environment I would certainly be able to handle myself in any scenaio given I knew the acft from flightsimming experience. Than I started flying. And a humbling experience that was. Sorry about being off topic. Rant off. NOw on topic: Aviation news is the same all over the world. You just wouldn´t believe the sort of stuff they publish in Brazil every time there´s an incident... The worst part is having to put up with aviation "experts" who go on national TV to put themselves in the ridiculous position of concluding the authorities´investigations in minutes. Cheers,Victor M. Lima
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