I concur. What I find insulting is that someone would think that armchair pilots could possibly land a fully loaded airliner in a rwy (let alone the water!) with the same results as a captain who´s got more hours in the air than most species of birds achieve in a lifetime. I used to think that because I could push buttons around in a glass cockpit in a desktop environment I would certainly be able to handle myself in any scenaio given I knew the acft from flightsimming experience. Than I started flying. And a humbling experience that was. Sorry about being off topic. Rant off. NOw on topic: Aviation news is the same all over the world. You just wouldn´t believe the sort of stuff they publish in Brazil every time there´s an incident... The worst part is having to put up with aviation "experts" who go on national TV to put themselves in the ridiculous position of concluding the authorities´investigations in minutes.

Hey Victor your 100% correct, but most of the comments about landing a real airliner come from younger simmers that don't even have 1hr in a Cessna.

When flight crew were being trained on the VC10 in the early 60's. One pilot managed to put the node wheel on the grass during a turn. This was later reported in the media as a "crash landing"!!!!!Looking at the photos of the bits of engine cowling some of them at least, appear to be made of composite material. I have to say that I'm not entirely convinced about the strength of composites. It does not appear to stand up very well to being shocked. That's just my opinion obviously.Oh, and from the point of view of practising engine out procedures in the sim. A crew of "one" will not suffice! Try a double engine failure. I have tried it in the DM VC10 model(having made the necessary mods). It works only because a. I have real experience of the a/c and b. If I stick rigidly to the prescribed procedure as laid down in the flight manuel. Any deviation from this and the plane is lost!!!vololiberista

I think 99% of the pilots (AND A LOT OF SIMMERS) would have landed that A319 with the same results. Just another day at the office - no miracle - but these guys are good.

I can't say I agree with that statement. I have a lot of hours in an A320 Full Flight Sim and I can't say I'd of survived what Capt. Sully went through. Remember, hindsight is 20/20. I'm not sure most pilots would have even thought about landing in the water while ATC was yelling "Land at Torosburo, at LaGuardia, we have runways for you in Jersey 12 miles out!" into their ear. I know I wouldn't have. Then again, maybe that's just a sign that I'm a bad pilot. :(

No, that was a well known female captain for BA

To be fair the flight crew held while contacting the home office and were ultimately cleared/directed to continue the flight. Most concerning with regard to the RR failures is the uncontained nature of the three (rb211, t1000, t900). Perhaps containment measures will be modified to address LPT area failures (as most seem to focus on the LP fan up front).Dan D.

To be fair the flight crew held while contacting the home office and were ultimately cleared/directed to continue the flight. Most concerning with regard to the RR failures is the uncontained nature of the three (rb211, t1000, t900). Perhaps containment measures will be modified to address LPT area failures (as most seem to focus on the LP fan up front).Dan D.

Hey Dan,Your correct, I didn't want to imply anything negative regarding how the BA crew handled the situation. The only reason the media picked up on that was due to the crew having to divert after crossing the atlantic and using more fuel then calcuted with the engine out. I doubt any of the pax onboard knew there was a problem until they got told about it.I cant remember the name of the Captain but she has a blog online for nervous flyers.

This seems to be an airplane crashing season. Today alone a ATR-72-200 crashed in Cuba and an airplane in Pakistan crashed, although the news report didn't say which type it was. Only said it was of an oil company. Regarding avaiation news, I have always found the news reports in Holland to be very balanced. They don't jump into the air screaming of crashes, but they just say what happened. Perhaps that's just an exception, though...

Here in Oz, the trade unions are blaming Qantas management for outsourcing maintenance to other countries where it can be done at a fraction of the price it would cost to do the same job by Qantas engineers. Personally, I think the unions are jumping the gun by a long way. They should wait for the investigation to be conducted before they go on the warpath against Qantas. It could well be that it is a problem for the manufacturer of the engine - Rolls Royce and have absolutely nothing to do with Qantas, or it could also be the maintenance issue. At this point it is all purely speculation and entirely unhelpful for the image of either Qantas or the loud-mouth unions. One thing is for sure, it will be interesting to see if investigators can pinpoint the cause of this near-disaster.Edit: Quick question for Robert. Did you ever have anything happen during your commercial flying career? I don't necessarily mean along the lines of what happened to the A380, because it would've been on the news. But anything you may remember?

And two fatal crashes in Cuba and Pakistan yesterday, wow. Poor people

And two fatal crashes in Cuba and Pakistan yesterday, wow. Poor people

Dazz, sorry totally off topic. Where did you get that picture when you click on your profile? "Hi How Are you" Kurt Cobain used to have a T-Shirt with that on and I've always wanted one.

With apologies to the Brits on the forum, all RR-equiped Airbuses now have a sticker that says "The parts falling off this plane are of the finest British manufacture!"My dad had such a sticker on his MG, years ago.

With apologies to the Brits on the forum, all RR-equiped Airbuses now have a sticker that says "The parts falling off this plane are of the finest British manufacture!"My dad had such a sticker on his MG, years ago.

I used to own a green convertible MG, the front left wheel fell off while I was driving on the motorway!

Dazz, sorry totally off topic. Where did you get that picture when you click on your profile? "Hi How Are you" Kurt Cobain used to have a T-Shirt with that on and I've always wanted one.

Daniel Johnston :) http://en.wikipedia....Hi,_How_Are_Youhttp://4.bp.blogspot...ohnston_jpg.jpg

Daniel Johnston :) http://en.wikipedia....Hi,_How_Are_Youhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K-sxcY57wbI/St5UtXUyFEI/AAAAAAAAAeA/FXwE5GRON6Y/s640/johnston_jpg.jpg

Thanks!Back on topic, a Qantas 747-400 departing Singapore requested priority clearance to return to Singapore after a problem with engine 1. Wonder if any of the A380 pax we're onboard?

Here in Oz, the trade unions are blaming Qantas management for outsourcing maintenance to other countries where it can be done at a fraction of the price it would cost to do the same job by Qantas engineers. Personally, I think the unions are jumping the gun by a long way. They should wait for the investigation to be conducted before they go on the warpath against Qantas. It could well be that it is a problem for the manufacturer of the engine - Rolls Royce and have absolutely nothing to do with Qantas, or it could also be the maintenance issue. At this point it is all purely speculation and entirely unhelpful for the image of either Qantas or the loud-mouth unions. One thing is for sure, it will be interesting to see if investigators can pinpoint the cause of this near-disaster.Edit: Quick question for Robert. Did you ever have anything happen during your commercial flying career? I don't necessarily mean along the lines of what happened to the A380, because it would've been on the news. But anything you may remember?

The may be why CEO Alan Joyce was so quick to say it was "an engine issue" and not one of maintenance on the two-year-old plane. I wonder how he feels now they have had another engine issue, this time with a 747?

Back on topic, a Qantas 747-400 departing Singapore requested priority clearance to return to Singapore after a problem with engine 1.

Oh wow, It's the northern Oceanic air I tells ya! Rolls Royce just can't deal with it :(