November 13, 201015 yr I might choose the B377 although bigger, because I like that era of flying.The B17, although more modern in terms of modelling, is just oversized for my taste...The 377 is substantially larger than the B17? :( Image Coming... KregE | B757/767 FO
November 13, 201015 yr Author The 377 is substantially larger than the B17? :(... I no likey big airplane!Maybe I going to likey B377, because speciallllll... =PThe B17 is THE standard WWII plane... borrrring! ;-)A2A really should do a constellation next =) - Stefan Dittrich
November 13, 201015 yr You could always alter the config file of an FS Spitfire to give it the long range nose-mounted slipper tank. Of course you would not see it on the external model (probably just as well since it did rather ruin the sleek lines of the Spit when being carried), but the Spitfire could certainly be realistically flown a long way when it was fitted with that slipper tank, which was available in several sizes.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 13, 201015 yr Author You could always alter the config file of an FS Spitfire to give it the long range nose-mounted slipper tank. Of course you would not see it on the external model (probably just as well since it did rather ruin the sleek lines of the Spit when being carried), but the Spitfire could certainly be realistically flown a long way when it was fitted with that slipper tank, which was available in several sizes.AlI've come to realize that I'll probably have to wait for the release of the A2A P-51. As this should include the same kind of realism and variety of equipment as their P-47....For now I think I'll do another tour in my 727, that should take some time and maybe the P-51 will be released by the time I'm finished =)But, keep the suggestions coming if you have any left =)It's just that there are some real marvels that are not widely known and that one might not find by searching for it on Google only =PThanks guys,Stefan - Stefan Dittrich
November 13, 201015 yr The Alphasim B-24 is a good alternative to the A2A B-17 if you want something big from WW2 with range and a decent VC. Not as complex in terms of engine modeling, but it's still pretty good and the autopilot means it's well suited to long trips. Alphasim may be gone, but as far as I'm aware you can still get the thing from Flight1. If you want something Vietnam-era of a similar size, don't forget the CS Lockheed C-130.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 13, 201015 yr Author The Alphasim B-24 is a good alternative to the A2A B-17 if you want something big from WW2 with range and a decent VC. Not as complex in terms of engine modeling, but it's still pretty good and the autopilot means it's well suited to long trips. Alphasim may be gone, but as far as I'm aware you can still get the thing from Flight1. If you want something Vietnam-era of a similar size, don't forget the CS Lockheed C-130.AlAlphasim???!!I mean, their exterior models are good, but everything else?I think the CS130 is just too old. That's not even a real FSX model... and it looks accordingly...edit: When I mentioned 'Nam, I was more referring to some small jet...The Bear Studios Mig15/17 also don't look good from the inside... could have been something... - Stefan Dittrich
November 14, 201015 yr I am looking for:- WWII or a little later era plane (Single-Seater, 2 Seats max, no heavy metal B17-style), VIETNAM-era also possible- Long Range (preferably with drop-tanks - similar the way A2A did it => they disappear and the plane gets lighter)- at least basic RadioNav equipment (Radio Compass is sufficient)- great VC/exterior model, this is VERY important!- "realistic" flight model (I don't need the engine to burn, but it shouldn't fly like a Space Shuttle either...)I can't believe the thread has gone this far without suggesting the Vertigo Studios F8F Bearcat.1150 NM range with three external tanks (centerline and wing tanks are all droppable)Has a radio compass (2D popup GPS is included, but you can ignore that)By all accounts, a terrific VC and exterior modelI can't speak to the flight model, since I don't have it. Best Regards, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch Pinner, Middx, UK Beta tester for PMDG J41, NGX, and GFO, Flight1 Super King Air B200, Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang, Flight1 Cessna 182, Flight1 Cessna 177B, Aeroworx B200
November 15, 201015 yr Alphasim???!!I mean, their exterior models are good, but everything else?I think the CS130 is just too old. That's not even a real FSX model... and it looks accordingly...@AS B-24 Liberator: OK, granted this isn't A2A quality but according to most users this one's good enough to fill up the hangar. It's still pretty much functional although you won't be able to use any important components provided in the real thing such as manifold pressure and interactive gunner turrets. As for the CS C130.......you're probably looking at the old Legendary C-130 model. The C-130 Xperience is up to date and is a native FSX SP2 model. If you want some other good bombers out there catch Roy Chaffin's B-25 Mitchell for FSX+SP2 hereor Dave Garwood's Bristol Beaufighter here. The A2A B-17G is quite possibly my No.1 bomber for me, thanks to Accu-Sim. BTW, I also hear that the new A2A F-104 Starfighter is underway, as well as the new, native version of the late Wings of Power I Solo: Spitfire package now with Accu-Sim. Also, please check on SectionF8's freeware F-86 Sabre found here, the FSX native version should be coming up in a few days. But why, do you ask for a C-130 when you're really an avid simmer of warbirds? Dave. "It goes without saying that when survival is threatened, struggles erupt between peoples, and unfortunate wars between nations result." -HIDEKI TOJO
November 15, 201015 yr Author Alphasim???!!I mean, their exterior models are good, but everything else?I think the CS130 is just too old. That's not even a real FSX model... and it looks accordingly...@AS B-24 Liberator: OK, granted this isn't A2A quality but according to most users this one's good enough to fill up the hangar. It's still pretty much functional although you won't be able to use any important components provided in the real thing such as manifold pressure and interactive gunner turrets. As for the CS C130.......you're probably looking at the old Legendary C-130 model. The C-130 Xperience is up to date and is a native FSX SP2 model. If you want some other good bombers out there catch Roy Chaffin's B-25 Mitchell for FSX+SP2 hereor Dave Garwood's Bristol Beaufighter here. The A2A B-17G is quite possibly my No.1 bomber for me, thanks to Accu-Sim. BTW, I also hear that the new A2A F-104 Starfighter is underway, as well as the new, native version of the late Wings of Power I Solo: Spitfire package now with Accu-Sim. Also, please check on SectionF8's freeware F-86 Sabre found here, the FSX native version should be coming up in a few days. But why, do you ask for a C-130 when you're really an avid simmer of warbirds? Dave.Hi,thanks for this long answer. To clarify this, I never mentioned the C130 myself....I am looking for something relatively small, like a fighter or a "light bomber" with a max. crew of 2.Era-wise I'm looking for something from WWII - Vietnam (I'm mentioning 'Nam because the first and very basic massive numbers of fighter-jets were used then), so this is just a guideline.This is just to say that I'm not at all interested in the more modern fighters, like F-14 to F-35.This is because I would like to keep the aircraft basic, so navigation is still a source for errors, not like now when everything is GPS-based and you just need to takeoff and land by yourself.MAYBE I'd also opt for a civil propliner from that time, although the choice seems very limited there with basically "only" the A2A B377 available.I had a look at the B377 and I'm beginning to like the idea of flying it around the world. The only thing I'm missing are repaints for it, it seems there are only a few out there, and this isn't a new product.I'm not interrested in General Aviation, at all!So, if there are any other planes around that nobody mentioned yet, feel free to tell me =)Thanks, Stefan - Stefan Dittrich
November 16, 201015 yr Hi,thanks for this long answer. To clarify this, I never mentioned the C130 myself....I am looking for something relatively small, like a fighter or a "light bomber" with a max. crew of 2.Era-wise I'm looking for something from WWII - Vietnam (I'm mentioning 'Nam because the first and very basic massive numbers of fighter-jets were used then), so this is just a guideline.This is just to say that I'm not at all interested in the more modern fighters, like F-14 to F-35.This is because I would like to keep the aircraft basic, so navigation is still a source for errors, not like now when everything is GPS-based and you just need to takeoff and land by yourself.MAYBE I'd also opt for a civil propliner from that time, although the choice seems very limited there with basically "only" the A2A B377 available.I had a look at the B377 and I'm beginning to like the idea of flying it around the world. The only thing I'm missing are repaints for it, it seems there are only a few out there, and this isn't a new product.I'm not interrested in General Aviation, at all!So, if there are any other planes around that nobody mentioned yet, feel free to tell me =)Thanks, StefanI'd absolutely recommend Flight Replicas' Me262 Nachtjaeger, with just some of the best detailed German WWII aircraft for MSFS. They also have the CAC Boomerang, you should really check this one up. Obviously you should avoid the Alphasim Vietnam War fighters as most areas are non-functional. A2A's repaints? I've seen a lot for the P-51Ds and P-47Ds so far, yet the Stratocruiser has its fair share of repaints on FlightSim.Com. Bad news: there are very few little bombers for FSX. Only the Ju-87 Stuka by First Class Simulations stands by to challenge the lack of FSX Stukas but since this freeware model by Italo D' Attomo (here) contains more accurate nose modelling, I won't be suggesting that payware model. The nose looks rather 'stepped' and rather jagged and rough, unlike the real Stuka as well as Italo's representation, on which the noses are altogether smoother. So far, none of the warbird add-ons I know so far didn't include the default GPS. Dave. "It goes without saying that when survival is threatened, struggles erupt between peoples, and unfortunate wars between nations result." -HIDEKI TOJO
November 16, 201015 yr I wish you the best of luck finding this "perfect" airplane to suit your needs! However, I find it frustrating that this topic is still on going, and that all the wonderful suggestions for you are not good enough :S :( Image Coming... KregE | B757/767 FO
November 16, 201015 yr Warbirdsim P-51B/C? http://www.warbirdsim.com/Fantastic flight model, OK looking VC. I think it looks a bit "caroony" but I hear a lot of people swear by it. It has drop tanks.
November 16, 201015 yr Yup, already suggested that one on page one of this thread. I think the VC looks great too by the way, not at all 'cartoonish'.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 16, 201015 yr Author I'm not trying to be difficult, but YES this is my try to find a perfect plane for me =PFor now I think I'll buy the long overdue Lotus L39.I will wait for the A2A P51 with AccuSim, that's in production right now, as I believe this will fill the spot in my hangar nicely.I created this thread to give me the chance to find some nice models that are not mainstream and therefore sometimes not featured on the typical "general FS-sites".Thanks for all your suggestions,Stefan - Stefan Dittrich
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