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Question about Aerosoft manhattan

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Right now, I am completely fed up with FS9.I have no idea what happened, but something in that program has gone completely awry and it is all now FUBAR. I really don't klnow what happened, but standing at KJFK with the QW757 with everything default except AI, I get 5FPS! For crying out loud, 5FPS!. Previously, with UT USA and FSDT JFK active I still got between 10 and 15FPS, and then I also had 91% AI, both GA and airliners. I have no idea what went wrong. It can't be any of the scenery addons because I uninstalled them in the hope to get rid of the problem. I even rewinded REX, so to get all the original environmental textures back, but no dice. In other places the FPS is better, but it's still bad. I have no idea whatsoever what to do right now.All this started a few hours ago. I did not meddle with the AI. I only meddled with adding/removing scenery from the library, I did nothing else.I tried rebuilding the fs9.cfg but it didn't help. I am at the end of it. What the hell could have gone wrong so suddenly... I hope I do have to reinstall FS2004... With all my addons and all my configurations, it's take weeks to get everything back! I should note that at Aerosoft EHAM, in the middle of NL2000, the FPS, while not as bad as around JFK, also seems to be lower than usual. EDIT Reinstalled FS9. At KJFK framerates are once again normal... Now going to reinstall the addons one at a time. Hopefully, nothing will break. Making a backup of the clean FS9.

Benjamin van Soldt

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Well, complete awesomeness. After reinstalling FS, I slowly added my addons, every time starting up FS so that it can rebuild its scenery library. Now, I have FSDT JFK, Aerosoft Manhatten, Mega Scenery NY and Imaginesim KEWR, and I have a great 25FPS with the QW757 and PSS777 (no other planes as yet installed). I am thrilled. Performance is at least twice as good compared to what I had before reinstalling, and I'm not sure why. I actually think its because of REX. I'm installing that with the lowest settings possible, so that the FPS impact will be minimal. We'll see what happens. But I have what I want: my ultimate NYC experience!Ya know, Imaginesim's KEWR really isn't such a great scenery, but landing and taking off with manhattan in view is great.

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

Well, complete awesomeness. After reinstalling FS, I slowly added my addons, every time starting up FS so that it can rebuild its scenery library. Now, I have FSDT JFK, Aerosoft Manhatten, Mega Scenery NY and Imaginesim KEWR, and I have a great 25FPS with the QW757 and PSS777 (no other planes as yet installed). I am thrilled. Performance is at least twice as good compared to what I had before reinstalling, and I'm not sure why. I actually think its because of REX. I'm installing that with the lowest settings possible, so that the FPS impact will be minimal. We'll see what happens. But I have what I want: my ultimate NYC experience!Ya know, Imaginesim's KEWR really isn't such a great scenery, but landing and taking off with manhattan in view is great.
I'm curious as to why, on reinstalling FS9, fps increase. I've experienced a drop in fps as well and am considering doing the same myself. I've done a defrag, but that doesn't solve the problem. If there is a factual reason, I'd love to know it.Jim D.
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After reinstalling at least five timnes, I found the culprit: FSUIPC. For some reason, the settings of FSUIPC, after calibrating my Saitek hardware in it, caused a massive FPS drop in all of my sim. Reinstalling FSUIPC so that I have clean settings has restored my FPS to a rather phenomenal rate. I get very good FPS now almost everywhere I come in the world, doesn't matter if its busy NYC, beautiful NL2000 covered Holland or quiet Greenland. I'm going to see when and how the settings of FSUIPC get fried, and why it interferes so much with the FPS. It must happen after closing and re-opening FS2004, because while tweaking, the FPS is fine. I actually think it's a combination of scenery adjustment and calibrating my hardware in FSUIPC. I really don't know why that could be a problem, but fact is that it happens - and it happened five times.I should also add that I installed smaller REX textures (the lowest res instead of consequently tye highest. In all honesty, I don't see enough of a difference in order to make it worthwhile the FPS hit.

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

After reinstalling at least five timnes, I found the culprit: FSUIPC. For some reason, the settings of FSUIPC, after calibrating my Saitek hardware in it, caused a massive FPS drop in all of my sim. Reinstalling FSUIPC so that I have clean settings has restored my FPS to a rather phenomenal rate. I get very good FPS now almost everywhere I come in the world, doesn't matter if its busy NYC, beautiful NL2000 covered Holland or quiet Greenland. I'm going to see when and how the settings of FSUIPC get fried, and why it interferes so much with the FPS. It must happen after closing and re-opening FS2004, because while tweaking, the FPS is fine. I actually think it's a combination of scenery adjustment and calibrating my hardware in FSUIPC. I really don't know why that could be a problem, but fact is that it happens - and it happened five times.I should also add that I installed smaller REX textures (the lowest res instead of consequently tye highest. In all honesty, I don't see enough of a difference in order to make it worthwhile the FPS hit.
Hi Benjamin, glade you got it running good again, :( its amazing how one file can break the sim or even hardware like a messed up usb plug or bad part. one time I had very low fps I did like 7 or 8 video card driver's installs boy was it a pain! :( restarting my machine. after that I finally found a decent driver.

Cesar Martinez
AMD 7800X3D  RTX5080 NZXT N7 B650E | G.Skill 32GB DDR5  
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | Crucial MX500 (2×) | Crucial P3 Plus  
Monitor: Philips Evnia 34M2C6500 QD-OLED

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Hi Benjamin, glade you got it running good again, :( its amazing how one file can break the sim or even hardware like a messed up usb plug or bad part. one time I had very low fps I did like 7 or 8 video card driver's installs boy was it a pain! :( restarting my machine. after that I finally found a decent driver.
You said it... I guess it comes with the package. FS's amazing cuystomizability is also its weakest spot. You can make or break FS with one silly thing. Of course, in my case, it isn't so silly. it's actually something major and I hope I will be able to use FSUIPC to program my Saitek hardware. If not, well... it basically means I can't really use the throtle quardants proparly...

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

Good to see that Megascenery New York works fine in combination with FSDT's JFK at no FPS cost, Thralni.I toyed with the idea of purchasing Megascenery New York, but kept putting it off because I was unsure if the Megascenery JFK and Manhattan portions of the scenery would interfere with FSDT's JFK and Aerosoft's Manahattan. Question : Was it necessary for you to identify and disable or exclude the Megascenery files covering Manhattan and JFK to prevent such scenery clashes, or is it sufficient to place FSDT and Aerosoft versions higher up in the FS9 scenery priority list, in order to auomatically over-ride the Megascenery files of those areas ? Thanks for any advice you can offer.Tony

Best regards from Tony, at the helm of the flying desk.

Good to see that Megascenery New York works fine in combination with FSDT's JFK at no FPS cost, Thralni.I toyed with the idea of purchasing Megascenery New York, but kept putting it off because I was unsure if the Megascenery JFK and Manhattan portions of the scenery would interfere with FSDT's JFK and Aerosoft's Manahattan. Question : Was it necessary for you to identify and disable or exclude the Megascenery files covering Manhattan and JFK to prevent such scenery clashes, or is it sufficient to place FSDT and Aerosoft versions higher up in the FS9 scenery priority list, in order to auomatically over-ride the Megascenery files of those areas ? Thanks for any advice you can offer.Tony
I have the same packages, and NO files needed to be disabled nor was any exclude necessary. I simply have FSDT over Aerosoft over Megascenery in the scenery priority list. Works like a champ! Aerosoft over FSDT over Megascenery would probably work also.gwillmot

Yeeeeehaw ! I'm placing my order for Megascenery New York right now. Much obliged for this confirmation, Gwillmot.

Best regards from Tony, at the helm of the flying desk.

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NOTE: You do have to make Aerosoft manhattan compatible with MegaSceneryNY yourself. Aerosoft released a patch to make it work. You'll have to delete several files and change some others. The patch's instructions are quite clear, so you shouldn't have a problem. FSDT JFK is fully compatible, however. Just make sure you put it above MegaSceneryNY in the scenery library.

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

NOTE: You do have to make Aerosoft manhattan compatible with MegaSceneryNY yourself. Aerosoft released a patch to make it work. You'll have to delete several files and change some others. The patch's instructions are quite clear, so you shouldn't have a problem. FSDT JFK is fully compatible, however. Just make sure you put it above MegaSceneryNY in the scenery library.
Do you know where I can find the Aerosoft patch for Manhattan so I can confirm? I can't find it on the Aerosoft site nor doing a Google search.I'm pretty sure I never installed a patch. All I could find was some mention of the misplaced George Washington Bridge.gwillmot
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Do you know where I can find the Aerosoft patch for Manhattan so I can confirm? I can't find it on the Aerosoft site nor doing a Google search.I'm pretty sure I never installed a patch. All I could find was some mention of the misplaced George Washington Bridge.gwillmot
It does exist though. I installed it, so there is no real need to "confirm": it exists. It was made by Andreas Kozma, the creator of Aerosoft's Manhattan scenery, to align it perfectly with MegaSceneryNY. However, I am unable to find the patch. I have forgotten completely where I got it from. However, as you can read in the article where I linked too, the patch does exist.http://www.megascenery.com/genfaq.htmI'm very sorry... I have been searching for the last hour but I have no recollection whatsoever of where I got that patch. Ther only thign I can recommend is to post on the Aerosoft forums and ask where the patch is. I have completely forgotten...

Benjamin van Soldt

Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case

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