Hi folks, I bought the CS 757 as boxed last year and I liked it very much, except the thing that my system at that time was´t really capable of that plane. Then I upgraded to my actual system, which is capable of it very well and I can fly even FSX with some kind of medium settings and mostly good frames. But since I got my new system I flew the 757 only once a time, cause something isn´t working right, I get some kind of accessing error with FSUIPC and thus some gauges remain black. Now I want to start flying 757 again in FS9, cause I think the system is too weak to get FSX working with big iron, so I´ll stick with FS9 for this flights. I´ve heared really great things from the QW 757. Is she really that better than the CS version in systems and frames? Maybe someone can compare these two packages.Thanks for that, Steffen

I have both for FS9 and only fly the QW 757.Even though it is not as complex as say the Level D 767 itis a very well simulated plane and a great handflyer.You also get about a zillion paints to go with it, as well as most variants known to man in one plane i.e C32 -200WL -200RR/PW -300 -300WL/RR/PW -200F/RR/PW -200PF etc and two flightdeck variations so Imho you won't go wrong.Support is excellent and getting an answer is no problem whatsoever.Compare that to the CS 757 which looks great and has many paints but can't do a VOR approach, doesn't have every variation and alsothe older flightdeck layout, I'd say QW is the way to go.Far more bang for the buck, imho.JP.

Hi folks, I bought the CS 757 as boxed last year and I liked it very much, except the thing that my system at that time was´t really capable of that plane. Then I upgraded to my actual system, which is capable of it very well and I can fly even FSX with some kind of medium settings and mostly good frames. But since I got my new system I flew the 757 only once a time, cause something isn´t working right, I get some kind of accessing error with FSUIPC and thus some gauges remain black. Now I want to start flying 757 again in FS9, cause I think the system is too weak to get FSX working with big iron, so I´ll stick with FS9 for this flights. I´ve heared really great things from the QW 757. Is she really that better than the CS version in systems and frames? Maybe someone can compare these two packages.Thanks for that, Steffen

Talking about the FPS,both are quite heavy to my system (in my signature) so maybe someone here have a good computer can confirm about the frames. QW's system ( FMS) not as complex as CaptainSim for sure I usually use CS 757 due to its complex and animations :(

For me it's like this:- CS757: good visuals, but systems aren't as good as you'd want (bugs and such) and it doesn't have a way to save the panel state.- QW757: good visuals, simplified (I'd say medium) systems, but reliable and works good. Also has the best 757 sounds I know of.- PSS757: terribly inaccurate visuals (must be the worst out there in almost every respect), but good, more complicated systems than the QW757.As a matter of fact, I'm trying to merge the PSS757 panel with the QW757 model. I've been having some success overall, but I still have to work out some kinks.EDIT: Included the good sounds of the QW757 in the above list.

For me it's like this:- CS757: good visuals, but systems aren't as good as you'd want (bugs and such) and it doesn't have a way to save the panel state.- QW757: good visuals, simplified (I'd say medium) systems, but reliable and works good.- PSS757: terribly inaccurate visuals (must be the worst out there in almost every respect), but good, more complicated systems than the QW757.As a matter of fact, I'm trying to merge the PSS757 panel with the QW757 model. I've been having some success overall, but I still have to work out some kinks.

Yeah, the CS is somehow buggy, especially the fuel system. I uesed olny arround 15.000 lb on an 800 NM flight from Miami to Houston, so there has to be a big bug. How are the QW systems, are they mostly correct in fuel usage and prediction?

For me it's like this:- CS757: good visuals, but systems aren't as good as you'd want (bugs and such) and it doesn't have a way to save the panel state.- QW757: good visuals, simplified (I'd say medium) systems, but reliable and works good.- PSS757: terribly inaccurate visuals (must be the worst out there in almost every respect), but good, more complicated systems than the QW757.As a matter of fact, I'm trying to merge the PSS757 panel with the QW757 model. I've been having some success overall, but I still have to work out some kinks.

Shame QW can't demonstrate a cockpit sound. I installed (Emil Serafinos I thnik) on the PSS 757 and love it.Daniel

For me it's like this:- CS757: good visuals, but systems aren't as good as you'd want (bugs and such) and it doesn't have a way to save the panel state.- QW757: good visuals, simplified (I'd say medium) systems, but reliable and works good. Also has the best 757 sounds I know of.- PSS757: terribly inaccurate visuals (must be the worst out there in almost every respect), but good, more complicated systems than the QW757.As a matter of fact, I'm trying to merge the PSS757 panel with the QW757 model. I've been having some success overall, but I still have to work out some kinks.EDIT: Included the good sounds of the QW757 in the above list.

I remember once I used the CS757 United Airlines flying route from Boston KBOS to San Francisco KSFO and before approaching I saved my flight,after that when I was about to land my FS suddenly crashed so I went back to the saved flight and continue my route.Or..maybe I remember wrong :(

I remember once I used the CS757 United Airlines flying route from Boston KBOS to San Francisco KSFO and before approaching I saved my flight,after that when I was about to land my FS suddenly crashed so I went back to the saved flight and continue my route.Or..maybe I remember wrong :(

Seems weird to me... For all I know, it doesn't save the entire panel. It probaly saves low-level stuff, like wether the A/P was engaged or not, and perhaps what modes were engaged. I could be wrong, though... It's a very long time since I used the CS757.

Seems weird to me... For all I know, it doesn't save the entire panel. It probaly saves low-level stuff, like wether the A/P was engaged or not, and perhaps what modes were engaged. I could be wrong, though... It's a very long time since I used the CS757.

Me too, I'm unsure about my answer because it's been months since I last use CS757. My computer just couldn't handle the heavy frames :(

For me it's like this:- CS757: good visuals, but systems aren't as good as you'd want (bugs and such) and it doesn't have a way to save the panel state.- QW757: good visuals, simplified (I'd say medium) systems, but reliable and works good. Also has the best 757 sounds I know of.- PSS757: terribly inaccurate visuals (must be the worst out there in almost every respect), but good, more complicated systems than the QW757.As a matter of fact, I'm trying to merge the PSS757 panel with the QW757 model. I've been having some success overall, but I still have to work out some kinks.EDIT: Included the good sounds of the QW757 in the above list.

All you have to do to merge the QW and the PSS is copy the QW aircraft.cfg and Model, Texture and sound folderto a separate folder, then copy in the PSS panel folder and finally copy the VC.0 till 5 entries from the QW panel.cfg to the bottom of the PSS panel.cfg and then you're all set. Alternatively you could also download this merge.http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=141855

All you have to do to merge the QW and the PSS is copy the QW aircraft.cfg and Model, Texture and sound folderto a separate folder, then copy in the PSS panel folder and finally copy the VC.0 till 5 entries from the QW panel.cfg to the bottom of the PSS panel.cfg and then you're all set. Alternatively you could also download this merge.http://library.avsim...php?DLID=141855

I'm just little bit curious,can you tell me the advantages of merging these 2?

All you have to do to merge the QW and the PSS is copy the QW aircraft.cfg and Model, Texture and sound folderto a separate folder, then copy in the PSS panel folder and finally copy the VC.0 till 5 entries from the QW panel.cfg to the bottom of the PSS panel.cfg and then you're all set. Alternatively you could also download this merge.http://library.avsim...php?DLID=141855

Well yes, that's the easy bit. The hard bit is to get the PSS gauges to work in the QW757 VC and that's what I'm trying to do now. It works fine for the most part once you find out what QW and PSS gauges are equivalent, but I had some trouble with the A/P and A/T. The A/T just went bezerk, so I'm trying to get that sorted, but I haven't looked at it anymore for about a month or so. I'll soon try again, see if my last edit worked.Sk1ny: The advantage is that you have a beautiful and accurate visual model, together with a good and more functional panel. The QW757 has a good panel, but it has some things in it that I dislike. i want some more control. The PSS757 gives me that control.

Well yes, that's the easy bit. The hard bit is to get the PSS gauges to work in the QW757 VC and that's what I'm trying to do now. It works fine for the most part once you find out what QW and PSS gauges are equivalent, but I had some trouble with the A/P and A/T. The A/T just went bezerk, so I'm trying to get that sorted, but I haven't looked at it anymore for about a month or so. I'll soon try again, see if my last edit worked.Sk1ny: The advantage is that you have a beautiful and accurate visual model, together with a good and more functional panel. The QW757 has a good panel, but it has some things in it that I dislike. i want some more control. The PSS757 gives me that control.

HiSorry for digging up but have you managed to get it work? Since maybe I only need the "visual" VC,non-clickable is ok to me,just need the gauges to show up :(

HiSorry for digging up but have you managed to get it work? Since maybe I only need the "visual" VC,non-clickable is ok to me,just need the gauges to show up :(

I'm sorry, I've been trying to migrate to FSX, leaving FS9 behind for the most part. Because the PSS777 returned terrible FPS in FSX I didn't see a good reason to try the 757 merge. Besides, I have hardly any time lately to do anything with FS, let alone try to merge planes... Whenever I get some time for FS, I fly.

Qw757 for FSX. I prefer the PSS 757 for FS9. Must be getting old and eyes are bad because I do not see that big of a visual difference between the two. Besides the PSS 757 systems and flight dynamics,specially VNAV and AT, makes up for any visual inaccuracies. I do not stare at rivets.

I wish rivets were the problem, since I normally won't notice that. The problem here are the entire fuselage, the wings, the engines... All are too big, hung too low, too short, too slanted to ya-name-it-and-its-wrong. You can't compare the QW and PSS even remotely. Get screenshots of both and you should be able to see the differences immediately.