Hi Gavin,Not recieved it yet, my hotmail account may have been full, try my home addy [email protected] Dan.

Gavin,Could you please e-mail it to me also?Thanks in [email protected]

>To rotate the landing lights into position, hit the spoiler>key `/`>>AllcottThanks very much for that.OK, next little problem :-roll .Landing lights don't show up from the cockpit. I can only see them in SPOT view.Any thoughts?

They show up in VC mode...just not in the 2d cockpit.Weaz

OK guys, you should have it shortly.Edmundo - you do realise that it's in Russian? No offence intended.Cheers!Gavin

Once someone gets it translated, can I get a [email protected]!Weaz

Probably best to just upload it to the library.Here's waiting in eager anticipation!:9Allcott

GuysDon't get too excited yet. I'm making no guarantees that this document will solve everything. Fingers crossed ok?Gavin

Won't hold it against you! At the very least it might have some cluesAllcott

just `bumping` !Allcott

Hi, I see you got trouble navigating our Antonov. Honestly, me too. Like you all, I'm just trying to get it work by clicking everywhere on the panel. I indeed transladed the manual, but the original description doesn't say more about how to use all these instruments.So, here are some results of my research. We are approaching Kiev Borispol airport (UKBB), runway 36L. We have: ILS 105.5, VOR 117.2, NDB markers 405 and 825.- press "3" to show up the overhead panel- there are four NDB dials with two voltmeters (marked APK-1, APK-2) in the left (but not leftmost) part. Set 405 on the highest left and 825 on the lowest left dials. Use the switches to select each left dial (a little green light shows)- switch on all this NDB system (switches marked APK-1 and APK-2)- you see voltmeters arrows move indicating the presence of the radio signals- you see the arrows of NDB instrument (labelled "radiocompas") dance a little, then stabilize showing the direction to the markers. O.K. NDB works. - note that you have a huge NDB dial on the navigator's panel. You can also select just one of the arrows by using the switches just over the dial.- what with ILS and VOR ?- select 105.5 and 117.2 on the right-top dials on the overhead panel- switch on "KYPC-MP" swich just beneath APK-1,2 switches. This enables all the system- go to the leftmost part of this panel and take a look at the strange tumbler with four red lamps. It is probably at "PBCH" and your ILS indicator probably doesn't work (otherwise you would ignore this topic). Switch it to "1" or "2" or anything else looking at the ILS indicator and you'll see that it works !!! I think "1" corresponds to the left frequency dial, "2" - to the right dial. - I didn't managed to get work simultaneously ILS and VOR (although there is another instrument just beneath the ILS indicator, that looks like VOR indicator)- people who read and understood the complete IL-18 manual (I'm not one of them) say that there should be another manual about how to understand the first manual... Some of these systems are so close to the real ones, that... you should be a specially prepared pilot to be able to use them. Not just a modern pilot, but a pilot of 60-ies, 70-ies. By the way, the navigation rule is mandatory for using RBSN. And you should have some scenery add-ons to make RBSN work... So if you don't like so much realism, just change the panel. Take the default B737 panel. Get a panel with GPS and automatic approach and don't complain.P.S. I am aware that one cannot see the landing lights from inside the 2D cockpit. I am sorry, but I can't do anything with this. Probably a panel issue.

Samdim, This much - and more - we've already figured. Thanks for trying to help but it's that manual we need - or an explanation of HOW to do what we need to do, or confirmation that it isn't possible either through design or bug. We already have the VOR's and ILS's live and kicking, so there MUST be a way to slave the nav system to VOR's with the autopilot, and possibly the ILS too, otherwise why does the overhead and the Navigators panel have so many system switches? There is interraction between various sub-panels with instruments which are unfamiliar to Western eyes and nothing seems to work and no-one seems to be able to help. I guess its the combination of switches that eludes for the moment, or else the panel is flawed. I think I'll just take the whole plane off my system. It's too frustrating. The manual isn't sufficient to explain what is required to fly it right and there's no-one able to help - not even the planes designer. Maybe you have to ask whether things have gone too far! It's such a shame, but there's so much other freeware and payware out there able to hold my attention, or where I can get answers to questions from manuals or forums that I'll simply give up on this until someone finds a solution. I don't feel inclined to bolt on the 737 panel and I'm not going to devote any more time to something that cannot be solved. Great plane, shame about the documentation!Allcott

Don't want to be a party pooper here, but I still have a feeling we're chasing rainbows.I distinctly remember reading that the AP fitted to the An24 was fairly limited and was basically used for maintaining cruise level.Here is an extract from the panel readme file for the Il-18 which, I believe uses the same AP."While this panel represents aircraft from "Golden Age" of aviation (mid sixties) it hasn't any funny game-like things like default "aka GPS", "NAV/ILS/ALT" modes of autopilot etc. This panel is for pilot, nor for PC user. The style of flying should rely on "pilotage" method (when You calculate estimated time of arrival to next waypoint and follow it by keeping an eye at clock and airspeed). Primary flight instruments are Your "mark II eyeball", Your brain, clock, ADF (ARK in Russia) in pair with directional gyro and DME/VOR indicators also as handy backup. I recommend flying with printed navigational chart and use distances shown at airway legs for times calculation. Airspeed indicator shows km/hour and altimeter calibrated in meters (don't forget to switch on appropriate measures in MSFS "Options | International" menu).True art of flying using this method is bossible with this panel, thanks to great authentically programmed autopilot gauge by Dmitry Prosko. This autopilot will manage positions of Your control surfaces (pitch, bank of aircraft etc) instead of controlling figures like course or altitude set by pilot. This is "as real as it was" in this aircraft. So You will keep an eye at Your course and altitude all the time because minor corrections using autopilot switches and heading wheel are needed every 5-10 minutes. Your reference are needles at gauges and Your controls - AP switches. Of course - switching ON the autopilot only when reached cruise altitude and switching it OFF when begin to descend are 100% rule taken from real life of Aeroflot pilots in former Soviet Union. Don't even think about approaches with AP switched ON - it's criminal situation for this aircraft and in case of inspector onboard You can loss Your Russian pilot's license forever without any right of re-entering flying business. Game Over!".

Yes, I'd already read that, which is why I tempered my answer with the need for either confirmation it CAN'T be done, or details of how it MAY be done. But that still leaves detailed infomration on the functions and functionality of the ADF-based systems. Just HOW they work (or again, whether they do within the FS environment) is really the reason for my questions in the first place. Just twiddling knobs hasnt worked for me, hasn't worked for the aircraft designer, and I guess it isn't working for the majority of An-24 user, unless they're keeping it to themselves. ;-)Leaving aside linked-ILS approaches for the moment (I fully expect to be told that they can't be managed by the sutopilot based on the IL-18 data) the Navigator station provides a course-to-steer indicator to the ADF gauges, and the gyro(hydro) compass provides a `turn to` function presumably to take advantage of that ability, yet no such gauge function seems to work with the VOR. The autopilot provides a siomple link to those two functions. That still leaves the third steering function and how to operate it.Rotating the bezel does NOT cause the VOR needle to line up when the `CTS` function lines up with the selcted radial in the overhead. That defies logic (except that the panel is bugged, or that we simply don't have the information to use it properly). That cannot be right, surely?Allcott

Can't add anything. I did my job (visual model) and tried to do it well. Now if you are frustrated about too much realism and no knowlege of russian language, I am sorry but I can't help. Real An-24 pilots did try this model for days and they never complained about the panel. The systems work and they work the same way as in the real plane. Why don't you write an e-mail directly to Stepan Gritsevsky who programmed all this stuff ? He knews all the nuts and bolts about his own creation.