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I'd also be fascinated to know if this works as advertised. I have an ongoing dread of having to reinstall FSX - my setup is so highly customized that it'd probably take me a month or more to get it back up and running if I rebuilt it by hand. So at the moment I'm avoiding any changes to my system - like a shift to Sandy Bridge - that would demand a reinstallation. If it was possible to do a straight, one-click backup of the current install and come out with a fully-registered new installation, it'd change my whole approach to managing the system.So here's one more user asking... anyone have any experience with this? Or any connection to it. Does it do what we think it does, or are we dreaming?Please advise.

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I'd also be fascinated to know if this works as advertised. I have an ongoing dread of having to reinstall FSX - my setup is so highly customized that it'd probably take me a month or more to get it back up and running if I rebuilt it by hand. So at the moment I'm avoiding any changes to my system - like a shift to Sandy Bridge - that would demand a reinstallation. If it was possible to do a straight, one-click backup of the current install and come out with a fully-registered new installation, it'd change my whole approach to managing the system.So here's one more user asking... anyone have any experience with this? Or any connection to it. Does it do what we think it does, or are we dreaming?Please advise.
Would not bother with it myself. I use a program called Macrium Reflect, backs up partitions, drives anything you want basically.I use it to back up my system drive and FSX drive and keep the two in synch so if anything in FSX goes south I just reinstall both partitions and all is good.It's never let me down yet.Bryan.

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I once tried backing up my FSX folder together with %appdata%\microsoft\fsx and C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX.I applied registry fix after format and even though FSX worked, half of my addons did not (e.g. Level-D 767, even after re-installing).Was forced to do a re-install of FSX (which took a day).If only you could tell FSX/addons to install ALL files on another partition rather than your windows partition....Maybe some windows tweak where you mislead all installers to think windows is on another partition?

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I once tried backing up my FSX folder together with %appdata%\microsoft\fsx and C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX.I applied registry fix after format and even though FSX worked, half of my addons did not (e.g. Level-D 767, even after re-installing).Was forced to do a re-install of FSX (which took a day).If only you could tell FSX/addons to install ALL files on another partition rather than your windows partition....Maybe some windows tweak where you mislead all installers to think windows is on another partition?
As you have discovered, backing up the FSX partition alone does not work, well not if you have add-ons installed.Bryan.

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Hmm, starting to wonder. With all the copy protections etc, and needed files for addons scattered about i'd tend to think some addons wouldn't work quite right after a reinstall. However if 75% or more did work correctly with a restore it still might be worth considering IMO. Just installing FSX and Accel takes a bit of time.

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As you have discovered, backing up the FSX partition alone does not work, well not if you have add-ons installed.Bryan.
Ye probably registry......

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Hmm, starting to wonder. With all the copy protections etc, and needed files for addons scattered about i'd tend to think some addons wouldn't work quite right after a reinstall. However if 75% or more did work correctly with a restore it still might be worth considering IMO. Just installing FSX and Accel takes a bit of time.
With Macrium I get 100%, it's like nothing ever went wrong.And no, I am not connected with the program in any way...I believe they do a free version of the program as well, give it a try.Bryan.
Ye probably registry......
You got it.Bryan.

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With Macrium I get 100%, it's like nothing ever went wrong.
How does Macrium compare to other imaging programs like Acronis True Image (which I use for basic, safety-related backups). Does it do a better job of addressing the registry or is it comparable? I've been able to restore my FSX installation using Acronis (after migrating to a larger hard drive) but unless I'm mistaken, it wouldn't be able to do a full restore to a new Windows installation, which I'd have to deal with if I was doing a major system overhaul.Or am I getting something wrong here?

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How does Macrium compare to other imaging programs like Acronis True Image (which I use for basic, safety-related backups). Does it do a better job of addressing the registry or is it comparable? I've been able to restore my FSX installation using Acronis (after migrating to a larger hard drive) but unless I'm mistaken, it wouldn't be able to do a full restore to a new Windows installation, which I'd have to deal with if I was doing a major system overhaul.Or am I getting something wrong here?
Best thing is Google it and have a look at the feature set.Bryan.
So this macrym backups registry too/
It does.Bryan.

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So it seems that Macrium is just like any other partition type program, it works but doesn't actually restore a single program to an existing OS and registries right? Otherwise you'd have to just restore your entire OS to where it was before to get all the addons working as before. As for the Backup Program, looking at it closer, it doesn't even look like it backs up the registry-just the FSX directory which if true, is more or less deceiving unless your addons are freeware.

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Best thing is Google it and have a look at the feature set.
Why, thank you. That would never have occurred to me.Or perhaps it did, but I was unable to find an answer to my question, so I thought I'd ask an actual user.The Macrium features page makes no reference to the registry. As far as I can tell, it does exactly what Acronis does, nothing more.So I think I'll pass.

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Boy, this looks good to me. I'm saying this because of the horrible memories I have of trying to put FSX back after a few "re-installs". I think about this daily, and my FSX is working so very well now, that I feel the $29.95 just might a great investment.....if it works.Stan

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So it seems that Macrium is just like any other partition type program, it works but doesn't actually restore a single program to an existing OS and registries right? Otherwise you'd have to just restore your entire OS to where it was before to get all the addons working as before. As for the Backup Program, looking at it closer, it doesn't even look like it backs up the registry-just the FSX directory which if true, is more or less deceiving unless your addons are freeware.
Macrium is a backup program. I like it because if you don't run it it takes zero resources. The payware version allows file-based backup as well as imaging, so you can do differential/incremental backups if desired. Also the pay version provides a Windows PE license for restore. The free only has a linux restorer (though if you are on XP Bart's PE is an option).I'm not sure how you would do an FSX backup program that includes all addons. AFAIK, FSDT scenery requires some esellerate hooks that are in C:\ and registry for example.scott s..

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That is the thing that would make it the most useful IMO. But this is what they are quoting: "FSX Backup is a new utility that backs up your add-on files, registrations and more and with a simple click, can restore them to your PC." So it seems to indicate that it is a one click affair, but I am still skeptical of how that is possible. I'm off to vegas atm but perhaps i'll pick it up when I get back and see if indeed it does work as advertised.

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Hello, I have tried this product.I use 2 HDDs for my FSX : 1 for main FSX, 1 for my Addon Scenery.This product does NOT allow to backup from 2 different HDDs. I have uninstalled it.May be a updated version later?Regards

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Thanks for letting us know. What a useless piece of software!Cheers,- jahman.

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Interestingly I was looking a backup software the other day and did the usual google search and found I think it was the allreviews website it suggested novabackup was the best with the most features.This lead me on to look at network attached storage and the like which I intend to use soon for my backup.Tom

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Hello, I have tried this product.I use 2 HDDs for my FSX : 1 for main FSX, 1 for my Addon Scenery.This product does NOT allow to backup from 2 different HDDs. I have uninstalled it.May be a updated version later?Regards
Perhaps if you send an email to the developers about it, they might be inclined to put it in as a new feature in a later version.

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Using that little nice Dos based Ghost v.8.3. Never let me down. After fresh install of OS and FSX on seperated disk's, i make a image of C: and D: to my backup HD.Best result so far when doing this, set CPU down to org clock (to avoid data corruption when making image's), boot from a memorystick with a copy of Ghost8 on, run Ghost8 and then make a image of each partision i want.

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I also have a very customised FSX installation so I do almost anything to avoid having to reinstall FSX (or my OS drive for that matter) manually so this was an interesting subject.My solution since quite some time back now has been a combination of two Windows built-in programs (Robocopy and Wbadmin) and so far this has worked really nice and saved me already a number of times.What I've done is to create a batch file with a shortcut to it on my desktop so I can execute it anytime I want simply by double-clicking the shortcut, this way a have made myself a "one-click backup" that includes both all my FSX stuff including my OS drive.Inside the batch file I first use the the robocopy command with the /ZB /MIR /COPYALL switches to copy my complete FSX folder + a number of other folders I find important to my separate backup HDD and then I end the batch file by using the wbadmin command to perform a complete image backup of my OS partition and direct this image to my separate backup disk as well.It's a really simple solution but again I find it very robust and also I don't need to buy any extra backup programs. I've used programs such as Acronic True Image before but I find this solution to be much more simple honestly.Below is an example what my batch file looks like if anyone want to try it out but if so I of course take no responsibility should something go wrong and obviously you would have to change both the drive letters and pathes to match your own environment. My environment consists of a C partition for Windows, a D partition for various data, an E partition which serves as my backup drive and a F partition for FSX. All are physical separate drives with only one partition on each for best performance where the C and F drives are SSD drives and the D and E drives are regular SATA drives since the performance isn't that important on those.@echo offclsecho.echo Manual backup of important dataecho.echo Press any key to continue, CTRL-C to quitpause > NULLecho.REM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------FSX related files and settings-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------REM robocopy "C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\HiFi\ASE\Options" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\HiFi\Active Sky Evolution\Options" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Settings" fsx.cfg /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\IVAO\IvAp\config" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Online\IVAO\IvAp\Config" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\IVAO\IvAp\flights" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Online\IVAO\IvAp\Flights" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Flight Simulator X Files\Documents" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Pictures\Flight Simulator X Files" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Flight Simulator X Files\Pictures" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Documents\CH Control Manager\Maps" "D:\Install\CH Products\Maps" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Documents\AivlaSoft\EFB\Settings" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\AivlaSoft\EFB\Backup\Settings" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Documents\AivlaSoft\EFB\UserData" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\AivlaSoft\EFB\Backup\UserData" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "F:\Program Files (x86)\Real Environment Xtreme\Themes" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\Real Environment Xtreme\Settings\Themes" masterthemes.xml /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "F:\Program Files (x86)\Real Environment Xtreme\Themes\MY OWN SETTINGS NON-HD" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\Real Environment Xtreme\Settings\Themes\MY OWN SETTINGS NON-HD" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "F:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules" "D:\Install\MSFS\FSX\Payware\FSUIPC\Settings" fsuipc4.ini /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "F:\Program Files (x86)" "E:\Program Files (x86)" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLREM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------FSX related files and settings-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------REM -------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows related files and settings---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------REM robocopy "C:\ProgramData\Aqua Computer\aquasuite\hardwareprofiles" "D:\Install\Aqua Computer\Settings\hardwareprofiles" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Favorites\Links" "E:\Favorites Bar" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch" "E:\Quick Launch" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Desktop" "E:\Desktop\Richard" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Users\Public\Desktop" "E:\Desktop\Public" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLREM robocopy "C:\Users\Richard\Documents\Mina G500-profiler" "D:\Install\Logitech\SetPoint\G500 Mouse\Mina G500-profiler" MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "C:\Util" "E:\Util" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "D:\Temp" "E:\Temp" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "D:\Media" "E:\Media" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLrobocopy "D:\Install" "E:\Install" /MIR /ZB /COPYALLREM -------------------------------------------------------------------------Windows related files and settings---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------REM -----------------------------------------------------------------------Complete image of SYSTEM (C:) partition------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WBADMIN START BACKUP -backupTarget:E: -include:C: -allCritical -vssFull -quietREM -----------------------------------------------------------------------Complete image of SYSTEM (C:) partition------------------------------------------------------------------------------------echo.echo.echo.echo The manual backup finished, press any key to close this window...pause > NULL

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Great little script, Richard; you've given me the incentive to do it myself. I usually backup (Win7 and Comodo Backup) a whole drive at a time, and that's a loooong process if like me - you have a 200 for the OS, a 500 for 'other stuff' and a 100 for FSX, with a USB 1.5TB as the target drive. Some files - like TrackIR are on the C drive in their own folder: HiFi and REX have their own folders: likewise EZCA; so there are files all over the place - a dogs breakfast! To achieve a reasonably quick backup and restore, I think one needs to list all of these program paths, plus any registry entries, plus the source files and licensing info, and then incorporate it all into your script, plus make the OS image, and that means most of a days work in remembering and tracking down everything you've ever done with the sim.

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