I can't find in the manuels that the G/S will be disabled after the go around ?can someone give me a hint were to find it ?

I don't know if something changed with the hotfix, but I don't have to arm G/S in the APPROACH REF by hand ...After the go around I just go to the DEP/APR page, set the ILS runway and star. I only had to set a new Vref speed which is normal.

I've flown the 737 at two different airines and four different models. I've never seen a G/S On/Off option on the REF page. I've never had to cycle the F/Ds after an approach, either. I wonder why some airlines (sims) make those an option.

Selecting TOGA on approach is one of 3 ways of canceling APP mode when VOR/LOC and GS have been captured. The other is disengaging the AP and recycling the FDs or re-tuning the ILS frequencies. Once TOGA is pressed and once you have completed the miss approached procedure, you would then set up the ILS (DEP/ARR page - select the ILS app to be carried out) again, Vref if need be and thats about it. The NG I fly does not have a G/S ON/OFF option in the FMC. This should allow for the another ILS app, i.e. GS should capture. Havent tested the PMDG737NGX yet on a missed app to see whether it is a bug because am too busy trying to figure out where on earth did they come up with those landing attitudes!!! So unrealistic. Might give the missed app followed by a second app a go tomorrow though.

It shouldn't be hoovering a few feet above the runway and letting the airspeed to bleed off. You should press the ToGa switch only once for a 2000'/min climb and a second time if you need full power. Can somebody please try a automatic go/around to confirm this behaviour?

Same here. The whole GA simulation is great. It's just that I can't seem to manage to get it to climb at more than 400-500fpm on reduced GA-thrust. It takes it almost 1 minute to reach 400ft and be able to switch modesI tried with almost no fuel to make sure I was not too heavy or something.It's no show stopper really. Been doing a ton of back to back GA's and it's simply amazing how it follows the FCOM system description to the letter... so much that makes me wonder if it's me doing something wrong or not Single channel ILS approach, Vref 139 and flaps 30 selected, G/S onAt 200ft, perfectly stable speed at Vref and established VOR/LOC & G/S, I hit TOGA and the A/P disengages (as expected in a single A/P ILS approach)Reduced GA thrust inmediately kicks in (76% N1) and the a/c pitches up and climbs nicely at 1200-1500fpm, I set flaps 15 and retract the gear.The modes in the FMA are GA for thrust and TO/GA for pitch as they should be...and then the A/P commands 174 knots.. that's when the plane starts to level off to gather speed and reduced thrust doesn't seem to be enough for the plane to climb at more than a 500 fpmWhen it finally accelerates to 174 knots, it pitches up again but can't climb at more than 1000fpm that's with some 3K pounds of fuel and 75% payload EDIT: one more thing. After a go-around.. are the GPWS altitude callouts supposed to reset? they don't seem to. I just landed and I only got the "10" callout after having engaged the previous GA at 30 feet

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Same here. The whole GA simulation is great. It's just that I can't seem to manage to get it to climb at more than 400-500fpm on reduced GA-thrust. It takes it almost 1 minute to reach 400ft and be able to switch modesI tried with almost no fuel to make sure I was not too heavy or something.It's no show stopper really. Been doing a ton of back to back GA's and it's simply amazing how it follows the FCOM system description to the letter... so much that makes me wonder if it's me doing something wrong or not Single channel ILS approach, Vref 139 and flaps 30 selected, G/S onAt 200ft, perfectly stable speed at Vref and established VOR/LOC & G/S, I hit TOGA and the A/P disengages (as expected in a single A/P ILS approach)Reduced GA thrust inmediately kicks in (76% N1) and the a/c pitches up and climbs nicely at 1200-1500fpm, I set flaps 15 and retract the gear.The modes in the FMA are GA for thrust and TO/GA for pitch as they should be...and then the A/P commands 174 knots.. that's when the plane starts to level off to gather speed and reduced thrust doesn't seem to be enough for the plane to climb at more than a 500 fpmWhen it finally accelerates to 174 knots, it pitches up again but can't climb at more than 1000fpm that's with some 3K pounds of fuel and 75% payload EDIT: one more thing. After a go-around.. are the GPWS altitude callouts supposed to reset? they don't seem to. I just landed and I only got the "10" callout after having engaged the previous GA at 30 feet

Regarding the GA, I made a video of it. I hope one of the developers will comment on it.

Hi, The first GA "step" is to enable you to pull the flaps up to 15, then once they're there you hit TOGA again. On positive rate pull up the gear after flap 15 and TOGA has been pushed a second time. AFAIK, you should not need to do anything to get G/S to arm after a go-around. Note that I'm trying this on an ILS, not a non-precision approach using IAN (the G/S ON/OFF option is for IAN). Best regards,Robin.

Hi, The first GA "step" is to enable you to pull the flaps up to 15, then once they're there you hit TOGA again. On positive rate pull up the gear after flap 15 and TOGA has been pushed a second time. AFAIK, you should not need to do anything to get G/S to arm after a go-around. Note that I'm trying this on an ILS, not a non-precision approach using IAN (this is what the G/S ON/OFF option is for in the FMC). Best regards,Robin.

ok, crystal clear Robin, thanksdo you know anything about the altitude callouts please?

do you know anything about the altitude callouts please?

If I remember correctly the altitude call-outs are reset once over 2500 ft AGL. If you are not then the call-outs will be missing for your next approach.Please correct me if I am wrong, speaking from memory here. Hope it helps,

If I remember correctly the altitude call-outs are reset once over 2500 ft AGL. If you are not then the call-outs will be missing for your next approach.Please correct me if I am wrong, speaking from memory here. Hope it helps,

Sure it did Mats. That's exactly how it works. In my series of GA's I didn't climb enough in the last few triesThanks so much!

Hi, The first GA "step" is to enable you to pull the flaps up to 15, then once they're there you hit TOGA again. On positive rate pull up the gear after flap 15 and TOGA has been pushed a second time. AFAIK, you should not need to do anything to get G/S to arm after a go-around. Note that I'm trying this on an ILS, not a non-precision approach using IAN (the G/S ON/OFF option is for IAN). Best regards,Robin.

Hi Robin, Where did you get this information from? As far as I know there are no "steps" in the go-around cycles. The first press (reduced GA-thrust) should give you 1000-2000' per minute while the second press will give you full go around thrust in case if you are real in trouble (high ground).