This doesn't mean that we don't fly VC. We do, but not most of time, especially on SID/STAR procedures, when we need to focus on procedure and not trying to hit the right spot on VC due the head movement.

u know u can disable head movement right ?check the section [DynamicHeadMovement] in fsx.cfg

u know u can disable head movement right ?check the section [DynamicHeadMovement] in fsx.cfg

I'm sorry, I meant the movement that YOU apply through TrackIR or any similar device, not the built-in head movement effect.

sorry, i misunderstood.

the pause - or slow mo button in trackir helps there to. Or a simple EZDOK profile mapped to some buttons for the various "Views" you need with some panning using the hat button also solves that without trackIR - really is actually far easier to fly in the VC than having to either keep popping up 2D panels or haveing them scattered all over your screen. I do use TrackIR - But sometimes disable it in flight, then just using EZDOK I have a external gamepad(Razor) that the buttons on it are mapped to various preset views - So things like overhead, CDU, Radio, Throttles etc. by selecting the right button my view pans to that item where i can easily click away(if its not a mapped button to my hardware) and even pan somemore using hatbutton. so in essence giving you same idea as having a popup for each bit - except it looks better, doesnt involve having 100s of pannels everywhere, and can easily pan to other part quickly, or reabable trackir for full head motion. I really think if you looked into it a bit more - and looked at the options available you would see that using 2D is actually slower, unreaslitic, and actually harder to do than using a well set up VC cockpit and hence why it was designed that way in the first place.

Since we are talking about 2D panel and pop-ups, what i would really like to see added to SP1 (or 2, or 3... I can wait, no hurries) Is a pop-up of the stand-by flight instruments. If you loose your main displays, you're left with those tiny little instruments that you can barely look at and still see where you're flying. Having pop-ups for them would be just great.I think the reason why they didn't add them was in part due to the fact that it's not often that you need them, and because being customizable via the CDU, it's rather hard to program the panels to show the right instruments.Either way, that's what I would like to see.

...Or a simple EZDOK profile mapped to some buttons for the various "Views" you need with some panning using the hat button also solves that without trackIR... ...and looked at the options available you would see that using 2D is actually slower, unreaslitic...

James, you're saying that people who paid $69.99 (70, come on! lol) must pay again for EZDOK and again for TrackIR? My country pays a minimum wage of $1.49 dolars/hour. Your country pays $7.25... We work hard here to get the PP/CP licenses, we fly a 1965 C172, a national manufactured 1976 T-23 and it costs $ 247 dolars/hour to fly. In the heat of 105ºF. With controllers speaking a ICAO3 english. I'm really sorry to grizzle here with you guys, but I must open your eyes a little bit.

James, every poll in the world works with a SAMPLE. In our case, let's say PMDG had 1000 NGX customers. The probability theory applied in the sample, can pretty much give us the (very) approximate number of all customers opinion. If you want to row against the tide, go ahead, but you must admit that 200 out of 280 IS a huge number. we're talking about approximately 71,43% saying YES to 2D and 28,57% saying NO to 2D. Look, peopole who voted for McCain wanted him to win. But they had to face the numbers and accept the facts. So we have 81 now against 200. Thank you for your vote and PLEASE respect people who prefers to fly 2D. This doesn't mean that we don't fly VC. We do, but not most of time, especially on SID/STAR procedures, when we need to focus on procedure and not trying to hit the right spot on VC due the head movement. Think about it and PLEASE (again), there's a lot other people who thinks different from you. It's a matter of point of view, simple as that. Don't take this wrong, I didn't mean to be agressive or anything like that. I just gave you the facts.

Hi maybe you should respect the people who prefer to fly in vc, and there lot of people who think differently from you. James was just putting his view across which he did quite well.

Hi maybe you should respect the people who prefer to fly in vc, and there lot of people who think differently from you. James was just putting his view across which he did quite well.

I do! I just disagree with the witch-hunt with the 2D users! We do NOT try to dissuade you guys who fly VC. We leave you all alone, respecting your preferences, not trying to convince you that 2D world is good and you "should move on". But the reciprocal is not true. It's a fact.

My recommendation, and I repeat, recommendation, is anyone who flies using 2D should try a dozen flights getting use to the VC. My bet is, most will never use the 2D panels again...........

I'm going to add my vote to a fuel system like the MD11. This is one of the most creative, and my favourite features of this bird. For those that don't wish to wait (there is other stuff to do during the time) you can still add it instantly.The MD11 had such a comprehensive fuel load system, you could even change the type of fuel loaded (Jet-A, A1 ect) im really surprised the NGX has such a simple fuel load menu, when real-time loading is even more relevant due to the short turnarounds.PMDG please consider this

My recommendation, and I repeat, recommendation, is anyone who flies using 2D should try a dozen flights getting use to the VC. My bet is, most will never use the 2D panels again...........

I'll give it a shot once I build a super computer.

I do! I just disagree with the witch-hunt with the 2D users! We do NOT try to dissuade you guys who fly VC. We leave you all alone, respecting your preferences, not trying to convince you that 2D world is good and you "should move on". But the reciprocal is not true. It's a fact.

Witch hunt seem to me that the 2d users are always bringing this up all the time being the throttle quadrant

Witch hunt seem to me that the 2d users are always bringing this up all the time being the throttle quadrant

Funny that you don't fly 2D and still bother with 2D topics.

I really miss that panel for the start up. Many people think that 2D is un realistic, but this doesn't mean that an amount of us still uses it. And if it is implemented... a full one is very welcomed. Regards

Funny that you don't fly 2D and still bother with 2D topics.

i believe this thread was a service pack 1 but turned into a 2d thread