Regarding Intel's pricing. Historically (within the past 6 years) Intel's pricing seems to be pretty independent of outside influences. Here's to hoping they stay nice and level.

Ah yes, but, ah, with the removal of competition and hence any compelling motive for improvement and increased efficiency, human nature ultimately overcomes and overrules the benefits of both. Corporate culture always mutates when external forces no longer dictate internal pressures.Kind regards,

Gents, I am reading this thread with interest as I'm starting to consider a new build in the latter part of next year, finances permitting. A little off topic but seeing there is a lot of expereince here I would be grateful for some advice. I am new to overclocking but have managed to get 4.2GHz with no apparent stability issues and maximum core temps below 75C when running FSX. MemTest will pass no problems but the Prime95 torture test will blue screen in 10-20 seconds after windows starts. I've tried winding up the Vcore but that only seems to increase the core temps without any improvement with Prime95. Does this really matter? My system is stable and very happy with frame rates so should I be concerned?

Gents, I am reading this thread with interest as I'm starting to consider a new build in the latter part of next year, finances permitting. A little off topic but seeing there is a lot of expereince here I would be grateful for some advice. I am new to overclocking but have managed to get 4.2GHz with no apparent stability issues and maximum core temps below 75C when running FSX. MemTest will pass no problems but the Prime95 torture test will blue screen in 10-20 seconds after windows starts. I've tried winding up the Vcore but that only seems to increase the core temps without any improvement with Prime95. Does this really matter? My system is stable and very happy with frame rates so should I be concerned?

Hi Tom,I used to have a i7 930 @ 4.3 before my current rig. What is your Vcore now?Kind regards,

Hi Tom,I used to have a i7 930 @ 4.3 before my current rig. What is your Vcore now?Kind regards,

Stephen, wow that's a fast reply! I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll get all the numbers together for you.Cheers,

Hi Tom,I used to have a i7 930 @ 4.3 before my current rig. What is your Vcore now?Kind regards,

Stephen, my settings below. To be honest there's a lot here I'm not too sure about. I'm wondering whether my Prime95 problem could be to do with the CPU Thermal Monitor setting?BIOS Version = FJLoad-Line Calibration = DisabledCPU Vcore = 1.325VQPI/Vtt Voltage = 1.175VCPU PLL = 1.8VIOH Core = 1.3VDRAM Voltage = 1.5VCPU Clock Ratio = 21XIntel Turbo Boost Tech = DisabledCPU Cores Enabled = AllCPU Multi-Threading = EnabledC3/C6/C7 State Support = DisabledCPU Thermal Monitor = AutoCPU EIST Function = AutoBi-Directional PROCHOT = AutoQPI Clock Ratio = AutoQPI Link Speed = 7.2GHzUncore Clock Ratio = x16Uncore Frequency = 3200MHzBCLK Frequency = 200PCI Express Frequency (MHz) = AutoC.I.A.2 = DisabledCPU Clock Drive = 800mVPCI Express Clock Drive = 900mVExtreme Memory Profile = DisabledSystem Memory Multiplier = 8.0Memory Frequency (MHz) = 1066 1600Performance Enhance = StandardChannel Interleaving = 6 (Auto)Rank Interleaving = 4 (Auto)Channel A, B & C Timing Settings: CAS=9, tRCD=9, tRP=9, tRAS=27Channel A, B & C Turnaround Settings = Auto

Here about PCI-e 3.0..http://vr-zone.com/articles/does-pcie-3.0-matter-for-today-s-gpus-we-test-with-the-radeon-hd-7970/14306.html

Hi Tom, Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I suspect your Vcore is too low. If I remember right (It has been almost a year) I ran a bit over 1.4v in order to maintain 4.3Ghz. Also is 1.5v enough for your ram? I had the same ram I have now and ran 1.65v. Should load line calibration be disabled? I don't remember mine being so. BTW, we should start a separate thread since we are intruding on Corey's thread. What is your heat solution as that seems a tad warm? Kind regards,

Here about PCI-e 3.0..http://vr-zone.com/a...7970/14306.html

That article doesn't apply to FSX: Unlike modern games, FSX over-uses the PCIe bus because it relies heavily on the CPU for graphics, as explained in Phil Taylor's Back-of-the-Envelope post.Cheers,- jahman.

That article doesn't apply to FSX: Unlike modern games, FSX over-uses the PCIe bus because it relies heavily on the CPU for graphics, as explained in Phil Taylor's Back-of-the-Envelope post.Cheers,- jahman.

I understand that, my point was just to show what's going on with the big hype on the PCI-e 3.0, you will also need the Ivy Bridge (the new one), and if you want to go all the way (I know FSX is CPU intensive) get a GPU like the new AMD 7970 (3.0) http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1805/1/ or wait for the Kepler middle of next year....now we just need some true DDR4 RAMS....I forgot, Flight is around the corner.....

Yes, absolutely! For PCIe 3 you need a PCIe 3 CPU (IB), MB and GPU. Can you expand on:

now we just need some true DDR4 RAMS....

Cheers,- jahman.

Yes, absolutely! For PCIe 3 you need a PCIe 3 CPU (IB), MB and GPU. Can you expand on:Cheers,- jahman.

http://geekoids.blogspot.com/2011/04/samsung-develops-worlds-first-ddr4-ram.html#!/2011/04/samsung-develops-worlds-first-ddr4-ram.htmlhttp://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20110627143149_DDR4_Memory_Now_Projected_to_Debut_in_2014_But_Ramp_Up_Rapidly.htmlhttp://thelineworlds.blogspot.com/2011/01/ddr4-five-times-faster-than-ddr2-2011.htmlNew mobo will be needed also.....it will never end..LOL

Hi Tom,Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I suspect your Vcore is too low. If I remember right (It has been almost a year) I ran a bit over 1.4v in order to maintain 4.3Ghz. Also is 1.5v enough for your ram? I had the same ram I have now and ran 1.65v. Should load line calibration be disabled? I don't remember mine being so. BTW, we should start a separate thread since we are intruding on Corey's thread. What is your heat solution as that seems a tad warm?Kind regards,

Have started new topic "Overclocking and how to pass Prime95"