Since the announcement of MS's Fail yesterday, a lot of people will look into P3D. I wanted to ask if there's any chance that a re-write of weather and improved ATC is possible in the future?

Hi,Not sure about a P3D re-write, however I am using Active Sky 2012 via network to supply the weather as well as Radar Contact for ATC.

Edited January 5, 201214 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

Is the stock ATC the same as the FSX ATC?

Hi,Not sure about the stock P3D ATC, I've been using RC4.

Stock ATC is the same as FSX, however there have been changes in the user interface. It does not support transparency, so it does not effect frame rates as it does in FSX. There currently is a bug with closing the ATC window if using "full screen" mode, but the development team is aware of this and it will be fixed in the next update release.The only way processes can be improved in Prepar3D over stock code is through the use of SimConnect. Third party developers are able to "inject" processes into the simulation environment using this method. There has been discussion on the Prepar3D forums on whether more features should be run through SimConnect or not, and whether the SimConnect option is the best method, as from what I understand it has some short comings as well. The Dev Team seems committed to finding the best method to move forward with, so nothing so far has been "declared" in this area.

Just making the ATC window and it's text accessible via external app (as I understand my findings, it is DRAWN in 3D instead of being a legitimate form with child labels which can be enumerated programmatically. The only way currently to get the text is to extract it from the sim by taking a screenshot of it and attempting to let the computer read it.Even with the ability to get the text out of the sim, you will still have the AI/ATC interruptions unless there is a facility built in to tell the ATC system that the user is transmitting (like it already does when the pilot voice is turned on or AI/ATC are transmitting, the transmissions are not "stepped" on), there would need to be some sort of PTT functionality built in (another button entry maybe) that when pushed, ATC pauses and when released resumes as normal with a slight delay to allow the voice recognition programs time to relay the appropriate selection to the sim and allow the "pilot voice" to talk to the ATC.

I agree Aaron, that a PTT function would be ideal for development of better ATC programs.I would have reservations though about the ability to "interrupt" ATC or other aircraft transmissions. Such a situation in the real world creates a heterodyne and should result in the same fashion within the simulation. Like the real world we should have to wait before we are able to transmit, and ongoing ATC conversations should be able to be concluded before additional transmissions are accepted. The pause in the ATC system should only occur when the ATC system is ready for it. If the user is always able to "walk over" ongoing transmissions, then the process becomes useless if used in a training or practice environment as it eliminates the experience of congested frequencies and the need to "insert" ones transmission appropriately.

It would be nice if simconnect gave you better access to ATC. As far as I know it only lets you send events, i.e. ATC option 1, atc option 2. In DCS if you set it up for realistic radios then you dont get all that autotuning stuff at happens in fsx atc, cluttering up all of your options. The menus then become predictable and follow procedures so that you can program something like VAC to turn your spoken commands in to the right button presses. The only other option for developers is to try and read the memory directly if the code is written in such a way that this is possible. I may have looked at doing it this way in the past, I can't remember. Either way I didnt get it to work.

If you try to hit the "1" key when ATC/AI are "talking", you'll get a squeal over the comms indicating you cannot xmit due to the radio in use.If you employ that same locking mechanics to when a key is being pressed for a PTT transmission, you can get the result we are looking for. They would also have to eliminate the delay after selection of response for the virtual "pilot" to transmit the selected message if the PTT feature is used. Keep it in for those that don't use the PTT feature to allow the verbal readback of the ATC response.As to the simconnect interface, it actually isn't that bad. A voice reco prog that would interface with FS would need access to the simconnect "send option X" as well as the options and the prompt ("Send to Ground on 121.2") and maybe the chat log from the ATC to the aircraft. If the last prompt from ATC was "Cessna 43M, turn left heading 125." The prompts below would be something like:Send to Approach on 123.61 - Acknowledge2 - Say AgainYou would say to the speech recognition program "Left to 125, Cessna 43M" and the program would then ensure that you said 125 and not 135 or some other number and that you said LEFT not RIGHT (i.e. readback correct). If you said everything right, it would send the Acknowledge command. If you said anything wrong it would send the Say Again command, thus re-issuing the directive from ATC.

Can anyone tell me if I can choose different speakers for outside noise and the atc in Prepar3D v2 ?!

 

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Dear P3D experts,

 

 

Can anyone tell me if I can choose different speakers for outside noise and the atc in Prepar3D v2 ?! I hope ypu van help me.

 

Thnaks in advance :-)

 

 

 

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