JasonHarris

Well, slight less weird that the fastest single core cpu and the fastest gpu you can buy gets ok performance 🙂 Yes, yours and mine are similar enough though, I can get around 45 but the compromise is clarity that I dont have to compromise as much in my other flight sims. This sim is not unlike many other titles where people that have similar machines can get wildly different performance so I expect things to iron out. What does make things a little harder to compare is what flight simmers take as acceptable. Most pancake games have very defined benchmarks for fps at specific resolutions and you know exactly what to expect but with flight sims it's never that simple. On mans great performance, as good as you could ever want, turns out to be 30fps (but smooth 🙂 ) and not great for someone else..

I know it can be done, but what he says at the end is that he has a pretty beefy pc and struggles with the framerate and says 'may the framerate be with you' I am running a 5800x and 3080 and it struggles, some things are better than others. I vaguely remember my first time in VR flying and performance back then was not good but it was certainly a wow. So I understand the people going wow but the performance is not on par with others and it's not bad to benchmark something against something else. I can see it being pretty awesome when the performance improves.

Well that is true, to an extent. Some arrangements of rgb in the pixels can give you better quality when talking about the same resolutions but there is no comparing something like the rift S and the G2. The oddysey has less SDE than others at the same resolution but it is also know for a slightly softer image. Not having noticable SDE is good, that doesnt mean the image is clearer. When you want clarity, there is no better way than throwing resolution at it, the others may do things to try and hide less resolution but it doesnt make it compare. It was the obvious way to try and get the best from what was the state of tech at the time. Higher resolution does give you the issue of performance and thats its only real con. The rift S and odyssey didn't have a 'method' they juts had what was available to them at the time and within constraints of average consumer hardware to run it.

Also only got MSFS for VR. Although I have bought every version going back to the commodore 64 days I would not have bought it if it didn't support VR. I hope the performance is OK, I have no issue in DCS or xplane at half framerate, they are very smooth so I am not worried about not getting 90fps. If it doesnt make 45, or enough for reprojection to give a smooth experience then I will wait a bit longer.

Looking forward to it. I don't really have a good screen, only VR, for my simming so have been waiting to fly msfs2020. I did try it the other day with opentrack and virtual desktop. Looks much better watching peoples screen recordings than it actually is ding it this way.

No, not really. I guess because they often can't get 90 anyway so end up in reprojection. I didn't AB them but my first impression was that WMR reprojection technology was smoother so I forced it on with an option WMR gives of 'motion vector' and it feels like it is 90. No issues there at all. For my sim racing I still get the 90 I had but things are a lot clearer, it really is great. That is currently with an amd 5800x and a 1080ti. I may have a 3080 at the end of the week, otherwise next week and I look forward to seeing what it does.

I received mine a week ago and I am really happy with it. The clarity is so much better than my index. Of course I cant use MSFS yet but aircraft in DCS, il2, there is nothing I cannot read. Even in DCS's F16, the small MFD's which are a lot smaller then the ones in the a10, f18 are easily readably.. No more leaning in or setting up specific views to quickly get close to them. Maps no longer strain your eyes as your nrain tried to focus on something that can't be focused on as it's not out of focus, it's just lacking resolution. I can't wait, MSFS has been long gone from my library because I went VR only some time back but this should be awesome.

It's great that it will support all headsets, I thought that they initially were only supporting WMR which as you say, they seem to be at this point. So if it came out today I would be holding out as well until the index was also able to run it. Although I am waiting for my G2.

He has a point if MS go ahead with only an initial WMR release for FS2020, no point getting it for other headsets until it supports openxr/steamvr, something that will work with a non WMR headset.

I don't know the weight but I can say that I never feel the weight. The current vive and rift dont seem to have any complaints but I do hear that the oculus is generally thought to be a bit more comfortable. The way they are made teh weight is distributed fairly well. It does not feel like something heavy on the front of your face. You can look through a small space around your nose to see keys. I would use it as more as an occasional thing than want to do it often so I map what I need to my controllers and also use voice control in some apps for the odd thing. You can use your own controllers, the only thing you lose is the ability to use the mouse. So if you were using the mouse for something then you either need to map it to a controller or keyboard or use the VR hand controller to interact with the VR cockpit.

Thanks for that, I see it's a recent update so will install and take a look.

Ah yes, good point. It's easy to not think how other people do stuff when you do things another way :) I sit in a seat with s stick center mounted and throttle to the left and nothing around me so I can wave my hands all over the place and not touch anything. I have found the controllers pretty sueful for things I dont have mapped or is easier to use with the controllers. E.g. I dont fly heavies much so find using the aircraft throttle with controllers will be much easier than trying to map the funcitons to my TH throttle.

I too am waiting and have heard that it could be before christmas. A bit like waiting for my xplane 10 disks to arrive just in time for christmas, hard to believe that was 5 or more years ago! I am finding flyinside really good but I hope xplane can polish a couple things about it. One thing I would like is for in game throttles to be able to be 'grabbed' with closing your hand rather than hovering a finger over it until it becomes sticky. It sounds like they have someone that is enthusiastic about VR and from that can come something good.

I ended up getting it from the Aussie server, made sense from NZ. About 40 minutes from there. The servers are working well.

Lucky Glenn, I will be waiting for the rush to die down I think, I am just getting timeouts. I have all the torrents running but while I am seeding at about 30Mbit I have only managed to pull down a few tiles over 10 hours. Everyone wants it now! :) Nice work again Andras, look forward to seeing it all in VR soon.

If you still have XP11 installed on your old one copy it on to a USB drive and copy it over to the new PC. It will work fine just copying the directory but will ask for your key again.

CPU is new, for 4/5 years prior it was an old i5 series @4.5 that made it chug along OK as well. All subjective of course but the performance still kept me away from a screen.

I am using a 1080ti and happy with the performance in flyinside, cpu is 8700k@5GHz as well. The demo is free, if native support is just around the corner so to speak then I would be waiting to see what that is like but the flyinside support is pretty nice.

I use a rift so I can't test on triples any longer but I believe from a number of demonstrations I have seen that you can do this no problem using xplane and not using nvidia surround. I think xplane gives you the benefit that nvidia surround doesnt that it renders three views so that you dont get the macro lens effect on the extremes of the views that you do in a typical game using nvidia surround. Flyinside has a few issues. If you are thinking of spending money which could go to a rift then I would do a bit more research to find if the FI issues will effect your type of flying much. If it was me, (which it's not!) with the hindsight of using a rift, I would use the rift and then fall back on to a very nice monitor which you already have on the odd time that FI doesnt work well enough for you. FI will probably fix issues in a reasonable amount of time. I can't fly with a monitor any longer so if there was an issue with FI, then I would adjust my flying so it would work, e.g. not bother with a certain add-on until it's compatible. You might not be like me though

Last night I turned off AA in xplane and put it to 8x in FI using 3840 res. It looked good but I didnt do a back and forwards. In fact I didn't restart xplane as FI used to say if it needed a restart for the change to come in to effect but now I am wondering if I needed to as I dont remember much of a change. Having said that I do think there was a FPS dip. I was flying in NZ with the HDmesh and some added airports. I was getting in the 30's and 40's for FPS with deta 5. Now, one thing I never did which I find myself doing in VR is taking a seat in the passengers seats! I never really flew big stuff but it can look so real replaying a landing while sitting back in a window seat looking out as we come down. I have been doing it a lot in various planes. The only thing annoying me there in XP11 is that I can't save quick views or go to them. It takes far too long to use the arrow keys and ,. to move around the aircraft and back to the pilots seat. I also can't seem to make the equivalent 'fast' version of the move work. I dont know if this is an xplane bug or an issue with FI but it would certainly make the seat hopping a lot easier. I still don't have xenviro yet. Partly the $$ but mostly the combination of the $$ and the fact that it only gives you the weather thats happening right now. I dont always (or often) want to fly in that weather

A TV can certainly show things differently than a monitor so I wouldn't expect what we see on our monitor to look the same as what he sees on his TV. Unfortunately, a screenshot will show us all different things. He may have the most realistic view of all of us but we won't know as we can't see his screen.

I was about to go and try it as the beta should have downloaded by now. After some time away from xplane, FI and the XP11 beta got me back in to giving it a go and so far I am really liking it. As usual the night flying is really good but suffers badly from colour banding, as does DCS the other sim I use with the rift. I have been meaning to give it a good go playing around with different graphical settings to get the best quality/FPS compromise. Interesting to read that the FI AA does little. I was hoping that turninf FI to 4k with max AA and no AA on XP11 would do the trick. Anyhow, thats all what I was about to do right now.

Your card certainly won't be helping but I think you should be able to do better. It might be a matter of turning the settings well down past where you think they should be based on what you do for FSX. KSEA on the ground is a bit intensive so see what happens in the air as well. It could be some other conflict as well.

Nothing I said has taken away from that. Take my post in context, as a reply to the OP. He is new and wanted to understand if there was an easier way, I explained there wasn't but if the folders arrangement was different then perhaps there could be. I think it's better to have posts that address the questions than posts that tell people they should be grateful and not be lazy. I am happy with my contribution to help the OP, yours does nothing. OK, what you can do if you use 7zip is to copy all of your zip files to the earth nav directory. Then select them all in the windows file manager and right click, choose 7zip->extract here. That will extract the data without the zipfile name as the base directory, so the directory +20xxxx etc will go directly in to the earth nav directory and will do all your files in one click. This of course doesnt need the file structure changed in the zip files so I am sorry for thinking out loud! You do get a solution that only requires a couple clicks to do all 100+ files though. Got there in the end.

H2egc, as I said, no one was complaining, just asking. No need to be rude. I just did it with 100+ files and it is a lot more work than doing one or two, I tried to explain how I did it. Would I complain over free work? Absolutely not! There is no harm helping someone that is not familiar though.