January 8, 201214 yr Wondering why it is that some planes react to yaw induced roll and some do not. If I step on a rudder pedal I should start rolling that direction. Also in a crosswind landing, say a right crosswind, left rudder would require right aileron. Can't see anything in the aircraft cfg that would seem to be applied to this affect. Anyone know about this?
January 8, 201214 yr Yaw induced roll, and the amount of roll, depends upon a number of things, Grant, the major reason being the amount of dihedral built into the mainplanes (the wings). Other reasons include the masking effect of the fuselage on the inside-turning wing; the area and depth (below the datum line) of the rudder; the wing planform, even the center of gravity will have an impact.The effect is included in the airfile, but not in the aircraft.cfg. Edited January 8, 201214 yr by Paul J i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 8, 201214 yr Author Thanks for that detail. Sounds like this is something I can not change. Used notepad to open that air file and it looks something I can't mess around with. Or can I? Going to Google for an airfile editor and see what I can find. I'm wanting to use a "Bird dog" that flies very realistic exept for that, uh, what you said. Thanks Paul. Grant06/Paul (also).
January 8, 201214 yr Yes you can....but you need one of these 2 air file editors: AAM and/or AirEDhttp://www.aero.sors.fr/fsairfile.htmlFor yaw/roll go to section 1101 primary aerodynamics Edited January 8, 201214 yr by bstolle
January 8, 201214 yr Author Yes you can....but you need one of these 2 air file editors: AAM and/or AirEDhttp://www.aero.sors.fr/fsairfile.htmlFor yaw/roll go to section 1101 primary aerodynamics Thanks for that. Under 1101/ ---Yaw--+=Nose Left-- I'm a bit confused as to which peramiter to select here. Looks like those selections offer comparisons to other aircraft which is handy. Just cant figure which one. Thank you very much.Grant06/Paul
January 9, 201214 yr Yes you can....but you need one of these 2 air file editors: AAM and/or AirEDhttp://www.aero.sors.fr/fsairfile.htmlFor yaw/roll go to section 1101 primary aerodynamicsHi Bstolle, I have managed to make a few modifications using the a/c CFG file and also using AirED. However, of 8 addons there are 2 of which I have not been able to increase its "speed limit" Once it gets to say Mach .85, I get the audible "over-speed" "over-speed" I modify this from the a/c CFG File under [Reference Speed] I'm sure different developers code their a/c differently in some areas. Is there a way to edit the reference speeds successfully on these 2 a/c that are not responding to my modifications? I want my a/c to go a bit faster that factory settings. See Example:cruise_speed=672 // KTAS @M0.99max_indicated_speed=772.000000 // 90% wing tip fuel, fudged for KCASmax_mach=0.991--- I have modified all except 2 of them...e.g my Jet Fighter goes at Mach 4.60 :( Edited January 9, 201214 yr by Johnny767
January 9, 201214 yr @Grant06>Under 1101/ ---Yaw--+=Nose Left-- I'm a bit confused as to which peramiter to select hereIf you want to add a roll moment due to yaw, you need to go to the ----Roll---sectionExperiment with Cl_dr and Cl_r. There are many different ways to design the flight model in FSX and it's a lot of trial and error without a common recipe.@Johnny767The audible 'overspeed' warning is most probably being triggered by a gauge from your add-on.You need to open and change the associated gauge file....and that's an area I don't have the slightest clue....But with the changes you made in the cfg file, at least the 'overspeed' text on the screen should be gone.
January 14, 201214 yr Author Thank you. That did the trick. Increased the Cl_drI and a few others. Now have to hold down the windward wing in a crosswind landing. Windward main as well. Also in flight rudder will induce a roll. Thank you very much. So then I do have a tweeked L-19 Birdog air and cfg if anyone wants.
January 15, 201214 yr Wondering why it is that some planes react to yaw induced roll and some do not. If I step on a rudder pedal I should start rolling that direction. Also in a crosswind landing, say a right crosswind, left rudder would require right aileron. Can't see anything in the aircraft cfg that would seem to be applied to this affect. Anyone know about this?All swept wing a/c suffer from "Dutch Roll" either convergent or divergent. Yaw dampers and roll dampers keep this under control. When making a crosswind landing in a jet transport do not ever cross your controls as you will come down like a brick. To land in a cross wind crab the a/c nose into wind. Just before or just after touchdown depending on the strength of the cross wind kick the a/c straight with the rudder and hold the into wind wing down with your control column.vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
January 15, 201214 yr When making a crosswind landing in a jet transport do not ever cross your controls as you will come down like a brick. To land in a cross wind crab the a/c nose into wind.Just before or just after touchdown depending on the strength of the cross wind kick the a/c straight with the rudder and hold the into wind wing down with your control column.Don't know for which jet your do not ever cross your controls applies. On all jets I've flown so far you can of course fly the approach cross controlled as well.Most autopilots start the align mode at 150ft during an autoland, which isn't exactly just before or after touchdown.Try to land a 767 crabbed, I don't think that you would do that twice after experiencing the result.
January 15, 201214 yr Clearly you haven't experienced flying a big jet in reality!! Crabbing "is" the accepted technique.vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
January 15, 201214 yr I think the actual technique and the preferences differ even among the pilots flying the same type. The FCTM offers three different crosswind approaches to allow for exactly that. But you may be surprised to read what Mr. Stolle is actually flying. At least from what I've read so far. Edited January 15, 201214 yr by CoolP
January 15, 201214 yr Clearly you haven't experienced flying a big jet in reality!! Crabbing "is" the accepted technique.Boeing says it's up to the pilot which technique he uses. But maybe you are right as the 767 isn't a big airplane :(
January 15, 201214 yr Clearly you haven't experienced flying a big jet in reality!! Crabbing "is" the accepted technique.vololiberistavololiberista - I take it that you are not aware of bstolle being an active 767 Captain for a major airline. duh.What big jets do you fly in 'reality'?Ray Edited January 15, 201214 yr by raymar When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
January 15, 201214 yr Crabbing is the standard technique for approach with a jet transport of any size. It is a perfectly safe manoeuvre even for a/c as small as a Socata Rallye. Go to a major airport you will never see any jet side slipping in a crosswind.vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
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