Thanks for your efforts Jeroen, just d/l it and look forward to trying it out.

Congratulations Jeroen.Both with the list and with your succesfull flight.I must read Tom Risager's tutorial. As you say: Doing it right is one thing - knowing why is quite another. I have seen it somewhere, but could you quickly give the link to Tom Risager's tutorial pls.Even before I got the PMDG 737, I was on a tour around the globe (in FSX 737), often doing 2 or more stops in on one evening. Now I am on my way south along the west coast of Panama and next time I stop for the night I will secure the plane and hope for the best............Now I will soon stop flying for a while and take a vacation to Morzine in France - by car.RegardsCarl Michael

Search the Avsim File library for 'ngxtutorialv1.zip'!Here is a direct link but that will only work when you are logged in (afaik):http://library.avsim...php?DLID=162360

Edited February 5, 201214 yr by J van E

Thanks a lot.I am reading...........What a fantastic job also Risager has done. 196 pages - PMDG must be happy.RegardsCarl Michael

Really good, detailed 'checklist' ;-) I don't mean to pick holes as its exactly what I need as an 2month old / 30hrs newbie, and I want to know when's the best point to remove, but you haven't included remove ground power at any point. I presume it's after APU Start, and for obvious reasons before push back unless you wanna take a GPU for a walk/drag. Like I say I don't want to pick holes and I know you've pushed out a few updates but it's just so your aware. Thanks and well done for the Checklist.Edit: unless I'm being a biff and missed it, then I'm sorry. :-)

Edited February 6, 201214 yr by NXGFlyer87

Really good, detailed 'checklist' ;-) I don't mean to pick holes as its exactly what I need as an 2month old / 30hrs newbie, and I want to know when's the best point to remove, but you haven't included remove ground power at any point. I presume it's after APU Start, and for obvious reasons before push back unless you wanna take a GPU for a walk/drag.Like I say I don't want to pick holes and I know you've pushed out a few updates but it's just so your aware. Thanks and well done for the Checklist.Edit: unless I'm being a biff and missed it, then I'm sorry. :-)

Hehehe, well, as you probably know I only included steps you have to take. Now, take a close look at the screen of the CDU when you remove the chocks before engine start. You will see that when you remove the chocks, the ground power will be disconnected too automatically! So I didn't have to include it as a seperate step. I might have added that 'remove ground power' step before the 'remove chocks' step, but since it's logical to remove the power when the chocks are removed you won't find that step in the list! :wink:It would be possible to remove the ground power when the APU is on, and that may seem logical, but in the lists I checked and also according to the people who checked my list, removing ground power is done just before engine start, so at the moment the chocks are removed in my list. And since removing the chocks automatically removes the power, I suppose PMDG also thought this would be a good point to disconnect.Why this is as it is, I don't know. Maybe ground power stays on as a backup for when the APU fails...?Anyway, you missed it indeed but it is hard to miss and it isn't strange you asked this (in fact, you could say it's amazing no one asked this before), so you aren't a biff (whatever thay may be: English isn't my native language, but I suppose being a biff isn't a compliment... )

Edited June 11, 201213 yr by J van E

Ah I didn't noticed that and hadn't tried it yet, but thanks for telling me. I see your logic! Haha yes a biff is not a compliment. More a jovial insult :-pThanks again

Outstanding job!!Great tool for not real life but very accurate flightismming. Thanks a lot!!

Outstanding job!!Great tool for not real life but very accurate flightismming. Thanks a lot!!

You're welcome! Thanks for the compliment! And that's a nice description!

Very useful, thanks for all the hard work, Jeroen.Question: can you now do it all from memory? :) I'm about two-thirds of the way there, now..in no small part thanks to your lists!Another question: Do you run through all of the 'not real life, it's a sim' checks, that you'd do if you were a RL NG driver, but don't really need to do to actually fly the sim? (fire systems check; oxygen; trim tabs etc etc) Just curious, that's all. Trisager goes the whole hog in his tutorial, don't tell anyone but I miss a lot of it out

I can do it almost from memory... but I am afraid to miss something, so I still look at the list. Well, the CDU part is easy: no list needed there anymore, but as soon as the APU is started I tend to mix up the window heat, probe heat, hyd pumps, packs, generators, isolation valve, APU bleed, fuel pumps... I know where all these things belong in the flow (I can type them in the right order if I want to ), but as I said, I am not too sure about it yet and afraid to miss steps! Take off, climb, cruise and descent I can do without the list too now, but I like to keep the list at hand, specially when it comes to the approach... Don't want to screw up the approach!And no, I don't check things... I made the list because I wanted to get going with the least amoung of steps possible (but still doing everything needed starting from cold and dark!), specially if I haven't flown the plane for a while and I have forgotten about things a bit: in that case using for instance Risager's tutorial is way too cumbersome and very time consuming because you have to filter out the necessary steps and usually you miss a few important ones because of all the given information (in that nonetheless awesome tutorial!!!). I have flown big planes in the past a lot and I remember getting back into it was always hard. Too hard. And that's why I started to make lists like these. I am sure that if I don't fly the 737NGX for three months, I will be even more happy with my list then I am now. B) Usually the very first flight is succesful already, even though it take some more time (because you forgotten were those knobs were...)However, I have to say that now I know the list almost by heart, 1. I often do things in a slightly different order every now and then (like starting the APU while entering things in the CDU to save time later on) and 2. I do things that aren't on the list, like setting up the HUD, turning on some other functions (FPV, things on the DU's), I turn on the VOR's onscreen and enter data from the FMC into the NAV radio's to check VOR's, do all kinds of things you don't have to do but that are fun to do while cruising around. I did find out, as I posted earlier, that it's nice getting things running but it's even nicer knowing what you are doing exactly. And so it is also nice to check out more functions and knobs and switches. Risager's tutorial has been a great help for that and I am planning to read the entire ofiicial manuals too. But I feel no need to add all that to the list, because it's added fun and not mandatory for flying the plane.But er... I think I will try a flight without the list soon! Could be fun! Specially when things go wrong it should be fun figuring out what I did wrong and I have to depend on what I know about the inner workings instead of just knowing the steps in the right order.

Edited June 11, 201213 yr by J van E

Jeroen, you've done amateurs like me a VERY big favour ! At my age you don't want to rely on your memory too much :( and with your checklist handy while flying this fabulous NGX simulation, I don't need to :( .Hartelijk dank !

Jeroen, you've done amateurs like me a VERY big favour ! At my age you don't want to rely on your memory too much and with your checklist handy while flying this fabulous NGX simulation, I don't need to .Hartelijk dank !

Graag gedaan!

Question: can you now do it all from memory? :) I'm about two-thirds of the way there, now..in no small part thanks to your lists!

Well, I did my first flight from memory just now. LOL I have to say that frequently I noticed I had forgotten something, but nothing really important and I discovered it everytime before I got into trouble... In the end I only missed one step and I did mix the others up a bit LOL, specially the stuff on the overhead. I know all the steps but I am having problems performing them in the right order. However, the flight went perfectly fine (and all that while flying with FSX ATC, so I had to use several modes that aren't in the list at all!). In the end the only thing I really missed was turning Window heat off before securing... I only discovered that after I was completely done and picked up the list to see if I had done everything after all or not. Ah, well, no big deal.Anyway, the next time I will hold the list nearby again.

Jeroen, do you mind if I print it out? I'd like to have a hard copy.