March 14, 201214 yr Yeah the side slip is nailing me also, I can ace the center line and soft landing, but then the side slip costs me the gold.We will get it! Don B
March 14, 201214 yr Thank you for a great advice Oracle427. I appreciate it :)Like i said in another thread, i am still a semi-beginner. There is much i have yet to learn and i try to constantly improve and see what am i doing wrong.I use Logitech G940 and, for some stupid reason, i didn't use pedals for rudder but keyboard (long story but let's just say that my current positioning ofa computer desk does not allow a comfortable use of pedals). Tomorrow i will give it a try using pedals properly. That should make it all a lot easier andmuch more realistic. I am sure i will nail it soon :)Cheers
March 14, 201214 yr Oh yeah, you really need to make room for those pedals, helps greatly in both the controlling of the aircraft , and the immersion in the sim. Don B
March 14, 201214 yr I know, it's just that the current position of my desk is not an ideal one when it comes to pedals. Stupid desk has some shelf that is very very low and prevents me from placing pedals where i would naturally do.So, when i use them, then my upper part of body is really far and i have to lean forward big time to reach joystick and throttle :) I definitely need a new desk but never remember to actually pick one, drive to the store and buy it :) Still, there is another workaround that i sometimes use but my girlfriend hates it: i bring two chairs on each side of me, place a throttle on one and joystick on the other, put my pedals in front of me on a natural distance and hook my PC with my 46" tv. It's a bliss but there is a catch - i take up the center part of the room LOL. So, i guess i should just go and buy a new desk.Still, nothing beats Flight on a large screen TV (and also nothing sucks more than going back to my 22" monitor after that).Cheers
March 14, 201214 yr Eevun, your approach looks great. Instead of diving down at the end to get lower, lower the throttle and keep the airspeed where it is. You picked up a few knots as you dove which will make you land futher down the runway and faster giving you less time to work.What the real 6A with a constant speed prop can do....I usually always made steep approaches with just half flaps. Usually, an arcing turn from downwind, close to the runway. The constant speed prop is a very good airbrake on these planes. My airspeed is in knots. I can easily head down hill on a "short" final at 80 kias, and go over the threashold at 70 kias. The airspeed will quickly diminish at this point, and if I'm not close to the runway just before 60 kias, the plane will fall right through the flare, and hit hard. There is really no sensation of ground effect. This is for a power off approach. The other option is to carry a bit of power, flare over the runway, and just pull power back as you keep the nose up. The C/S works so well as a brake, that it was easy to enter the pattern at 120 kias, and still easily slow to 90 kias before starting the base turn. I just use the same numbers as a Piper Archer..... 90, 80, 70..........and land at 65-60. I don't have this model for Flight, and have no idea how well (or not), the C/S prop is for the braking effect. Generally, all flight sim planes I've ever flown, fall somewhat short in this area. Some don't have a braking effect at all.If the RV is fixed pitch, then you just start slowing down about six miles out. They're quite slippery, and take a long time to decelerate. With mine, it's actually possible to decend down a canyon to the valley below at 2000 fpm, while still loosing some airspeed.L.Adamson
March 14, 201214 yr ... and that is the reason why complex is another endorsement (that I don't have... yet!). I can see how the C/S braking behavior on the 6A would get one in a lot of trouble if they are used to F/P.
March 14, 201214 yr I've never tried a C/S prop in real life (hoping to get endorsed on a Grob 109 motorglider that has one this summer, though), but I can attest to the fact that a spinning prop is a HUGE airbrake. The Grob 109 we fly used to have a dual speed prop (where you pulled a string to switch between climb and cruise modes, very high tech!), and when set to climb mode it slowed you quite a bit, compared to when stopped. The standard procedure was to land that aircraft like a glider, but with the engine running in case of emergency, and compared to other gliders with the same theoretical glide radio (ASK-21 etc), this thing dropped like a lead brick on final, just from having that prop spinning in front. I suspect this is a little undermodeled in Flight.Which has nothing to do with me not finishing this challenge with a silver, I just suck at crosswind landings :). Too used to a 150m wide grass field, I suspect.
March 14, 201214 yr For fun i tried it from the farside runway (also there is a aerocache over there) and got a gold the first try. From the nearside though yea, a great challenge and took many tries to get a silver. -Scotty
March 14, 201214 yr For fun i tried it from the farside runway (also there is a aerocache over there) and got a gold the first try. From the nearside though yea, a great challenge and took many tries to get a silver.Are you telling me, that you managed to land that RV from the other direction, and get the gold, in a 26-29 knot tailwind for the most part?? Don B
March 14, 201214 yr I would have never even considered attempting it that way, I will certainly give it a try the next time I fire Flight up , I had about given up on the Gold in this one. Don B
March 14, 201214 yr I considered it after probably my 20th attempt to do it from the correct approach and getting only a silver. For whatever reason, perhaps Flight (model) has a weakness in here, but having a a good bit of speed or a tailwind is much easier for me to straighten up with the runway and apply rudder then trying to go in with a headwind. Could be do to the fact i'm using z-rotation on a joystick as well and im not that great at it. -Scotty
March 14, 201214 yr Yes I had real trouble with this one, even using the proper crosswind landing technique. I only managed a bronze.This is one thing I don't like about Flight. While it's a challenge, this sort of scenario is not realistic. All real aircraft have a crosswind limit, which for the real RV-6A I believe it's 15 knots. Therefore you would never even attempt to land in this sort of scenario presented in Flight in the real world. You'd divert to another airfield where the wind is either less strong, or the runway direction is more into wind.Likewise with the next couple of challenges where you perform an ILS approach, while I did find them challenging and quite fun, again this is not a scenario you'd face in the real world. Even flying full IFR with an Instrument Rating in a light aircraft, there is a required minimum which I believe is somewhere in the region of 500ft. You wouldn't land in zero visibility even on ILS. You'd divert. Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
March 14, 201214 yr Yes I had real trouble with this one, even using the proper crosswind landing technique. I only managed a bronze.This is one thing I don't like about Flight. While it's a challenge, this sort of scenario is not realistic. All real aircraft have a crosswind limit, which for the real RV-6A I believe it's 15 knots. Therefore you would never even attempt to land in this sort of scenario presented in Flight in the real world. You'd divert to another airfield where the wind is either less strong, or the runway direction is more into wind.Likewise with the next couple of challenges where you perform an ILS approach, while I did find them challenging and quite fun, again this is not a scenario you'd face in the real world. Even flying full IFR with an Instrument Rating in a light aircraft, there is a required minimum which I believe is somewhere in the region of 500ft. You wouldn't land in zero visibility even on ILS. You'd divert.True, in the real world. As long as you KNOW that the crosswind is that strong, which you might not at an uncontrolled airfield - those windsocks tend to blow away after a few years! I've landed in crosswinds twice what the plane was rated for - not something I'd like to do again, but it happens and I survived the experience due to being very current on the type and damn lucky :).I do, however, think that this challenge should be higher up the list. It's silly that I can get golds on later challenges, but still haven't even been close to silver on the second...
March 14, 201214 yr Personal limits and plain good ADM aside, are you sure that the actual crosswind component exceeds the limit of the 6A in that challenge? None of the non DLC challenges introduced crosswinds that were beyond the limits. I also found the amount of correction required to feel rather close to reality.
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