March 27, 201214 yr I've just bought this laptop in Newegg (Toshiba R835-P81). Out of curiosity (I know, thou shalt not sim in a laptop), I also purchased and installed vainilla FSX Gold Edition in this laptop; the only thing I added was the Antilag frame rate limiter (set at 30 FPS, no pre-render). My sliders are in mid-low settings, and FSX very smooth (after 7 years with FS9 exclusivity). However, I started feeling a hot air exhaust. I checked with HW Monitor, the temperatures were peaking at 100°C:The screenshot was taken 10-20 minutes after closing FSX, however, the Max values correspond to FSX. According to the Intel specifications page, the max temperature for this CPU is 100°C. Should I worry about this, stop using FSX and go back to FS9 in the laptop?Best regards from Colombia,Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
March 27, 201214 yr That's MUCH too hot. If you can't do something with the cooling, I wouldn't run it like that. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 27, 201214 yr Were the exhausts blocked? I have only really seen temps like that on older laptops with something caught in or blocking the exhaust. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
March 27, 201214 yr Author Were the exhausts blocked? I have only really seen temps like that on older laptops with something caught in or blocking the exhaust.That's weird, it's been only 3 days since the laptop arrived.That's MUCH too hot. If you can't do something with the cooling, I wouldn't run it like that.Thanks, Bob. If I disable Turbo Boost in BIOS, would this help?Best regards from Colombia,Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
March 27, 201214 yr Luis,Those temperatures are far too hot! And running FSX on it shouldn't cause temps that high!!!The computer should be able to take a 100% load on all cores on the processor for hours without overheating!You said that it only arrived 3 days ago, I would return it on warranty and cite the heat problem when under load. It sounds very much to me like the heat sink inside isn't attached correctly or something else is preventing cooling.Regards,James James W
March 27, 201214 yr Author OK, I've just called Toshiba, they instructed me to carry the laptop to the nearest authorized service provider (luckily there's one where I live). Let's hope it's something easily fixable (fingers crossed)... I wouldn't like to wait 6 weeks while the laptop is returned to Newegg and the new one shipped back here.Best regards from Colombia,Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
April 2, 201214 yr Author Well, I have my laptop back. The people at the authorizad service provider weren't able to reproduce the problem; neither did I (in front of them)... just like a sick child at the doctor :P I agreed with them to carry in the laptop again after Holy Week. At home I tried again, but the temperatures were only around 86ºC. I disabled Turbo Boost just in case. I'll be testing, this time with FS9 (the laptop was not up to the challenge with FSX+addons). Best regards from Colombia, Luis Miguel. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
April 3, 201214 yr That is too hot , I purchased Toshiba SL755 - M1DU last month and I get a max of 55c when running FSX and good fps but i use the desktop for FSX n XPX. I would suggest also get a good cooler for the laptop I have the CM L1 but there are better and more expensive coolers from CM. Ouch That Protege it does not have a Dedicated graphics ? Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
April 3, 201214 yr Author That is too hot , I purchased Toshiba SL755 - M1DU last month and I get a max of 55c when running FSX and good fps but i use the desktop for FSX n XPX. I would suggest also get a good cooler for the laptop I have the CM L1 but there are better and more expensive coolers from CM. Am I right saying that your laptop has a dedicated GPU, and that those 55ºC are the CPU temperature with the cooler turned on? These values I'm getting are with no external cooling at all, just a folded plastic stand for my laptop and below that, my bed. The stand I'm using is a cheap one like this: I'll try again with the fans turned on (they tend to be somewhat noisy, although they blow only 28 CFM) to see if it helps in something. Ouch That Protege it does not have a Dedicated graphics ? You're right, sir, no dedicated GPU. Anyway, I was looking for a replacement for my old Inspiron 11z, which had an older version of Intel graphics. The 11z was enough for running FS9 OK when travelling while being light at the same time. BTW, nice username ;) Best regards from Colombia, Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
April 3, 201214 yr Am I right saying that your laptop has a dedicated GPU, and that those 55ºC are the CPU temperature with the cooler turned on? These values I'm getting are with no external cooling at all, just a folded plastic stand for my laptop and below that, my bed. The stand I'm using is a cheap one like this: BTW, nice username ;) Best regards from Colombia, Luis Miguel Yep my lappie has 1 GB dedicated Nvidia 525m. My idling temps are 39-41c and max 46-48c, and when running fsx the max shoots to 55-59c and these temps are without the cooler. If i use the cooler i usually get a drop of 3-4-5c. Firstly you need to check when does the temps rise during FSX or during normal operations. Ah you should avoid the plastic base they tend to heat you know what i mean. The protege are a good breed. Just check when the temps are rising and use CoreTemp for monitor the temp, i suppose you must be using the PC Health Monitor provided with the Toshiba. And that cooler you have is a Chinese make and I think the fans are @2500 rpm IIRC, try to use the cooler and monitor , but my advice is get a better cooler like CM U3. Maiden's are absolute rockers :) Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
May 2, 201214 yr Author Sorry for the delay in the feedback, I've been busy testing my laptop, now with FS9, locking framerate inside and outside FS9, both at 24 and 30 FPS. As expected, FS9 "internally" locked at 30 FPS is the smoothest of the options I've tested. With 24 FPS internal I'm getting up to 82°C, any other combination gets me up to 80°C only, no matter if using Antilag or the internal FPS cap. I don't know what to think, I used to get these very same temperatures in my older laptop (Inspiron 11z). My idle temperatures are around 46°C; with Prime95 I'm getting around 85°C. Well, I disabled TurboBoost, it gave me 5 degrees more with FS9 when enabled. Should I stop worrying? ;) Best regards from Colombia, Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
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