April 9, 200422 yr Now uploaded to AVSIM, The Greater Toronto Authority - freeware by Flight Ontario.And yes, it does contain Easter Eggs. Can you find them?Click the link below to visit our webpage.http://www.asic.ca/flightontario/jimlogo.gif
April 9, 200422 yr I don't know about anyone else... but this install went terrible on my system. It seems to happen only in summer. I get extremely long terrain load times (15 minutes or more). Once it does finally load, the hard disk continues to thrash during flight, and eventually a get a CTD. I followed the install directions to a "t" and even defragged, but that didn't help.Anyone else having similar problems?
April 9, 200422 yr Someone has pointed out a problem in our docsFor Fs2004 they should read:5. blah blah6. Create a folder in Flight Simulator 9 (FS9)/Addon Scenery and name it "OntarioClass".7. Unzip "OntarioClass2004.zip " and extract the contents to FS9/Addon Scenery/OntarioClass . (Proper folders will be created)9. blah,blahYou should have the following when finshedFS9/Addon Scenery/OntarioClass/scenery and a texture folder.http://www.asic.ca/flightontario/jimlogo.gif
April 9, 200422 yr Congrats Jim and the whole team... I know how hard you all work on the sceneries at Flight Ontario and how close to the edge you all push FS in every direction. Although I haven't seen or downloaded the new GTA yet, I have absolutely no doubt this will be one of the best looking sceneries ever released for Flight Simulator to date.Best of luck and congrats,Elrond
April 9, 200422 yr I figured out the problem with the docs during install, so that isn't the problem I'm having.Again, just looking to see if I'm alone here, or if anyone else is having trouble.Thanks.
April 9, 200422 yr Hi,I may be way off base here, but is it not a bad idea to have a texture folder in a landclass folder?, does this not cause memory leakage?.Dan.
April 9, 200422 yr Like thhiessen also had terrible problems with it. OK the install instructions weren't quite right but I figured that out anyway.As said above the loading of the scenery when I started took several minutes ( not 15 in my case - maybe 2 or 3). Once the flight commenced any change of view EG from 2D to VC to tower etc stopped everything for a second or so. Even exiting FS9 took several seconds.The scenery itself looks good (what little I saw of it before deleting the entries from the scenery library) but something seems to be amiss.For the record- my system is K7S5A/Athlon, xp2000+,512MB DDR, Ti4200/128MB, Win XP.I can usually run with pretty much everything maxed and get a fairly consistent 30fps except in very high demand areas(EG: LAX Heathrow etc) when fps will bottom out at around 14/15. Altho in the Toronto case the fps , at rest on the RW with 2D panel was showing a max of about 22 it was also showing a min of 1!- Never seen this before. Even with settings much much reduced it made very little difference-neverything seemed totally bogged down.Someone up the thread said it was showing summer scenery - mine seemed to be the depths of winter- I know it's cold in Canada-my wife is Canadian- but I think by mid April there might be a little green showing somewhere.I hope there is a way around these problems - I'd like to use the scenery but not at the present cost in performance.Just read Danowats post above - memory seemed - just from observing the general behaviour of the PC , to be somewhere involved in the cause-running out of memory would ,I believe,produce the type of behaviour I saw( seem to remember occasions like this in Win98 etc when flogging the machine hard) .Dave
April 9, 200422 yr Dave, Funny you mention that about the Landclass/texture folder. I had the same thought. As for the memory leak, I think you're right on. Twice I got an "out of virtual memory" error from Windows XP. I have 1GB of Ram, a 500mb VM size, and a Raid-0 setup for my hard drives. It's impossible that I could be out of VM.I think I'm just going to leave my install "as is" and avoid the area until someone figures out a fix.I'm really dying to see what it looks like.
April 9, 200422 yr Hi all.The problem is a memory leak, and it is caused by the texture folder in the OntarioClass folder.There is a fix.Create a new project folder named OntarioWaterClass, and create a sub-folder named 'scenery'. Into that scenery folder, move the BGL file named "TO Water LC.bgl". Then move the texture folder into the OntarioWaterClass project folder.You'll need to add/activate and prioritize the new OntarioWaterClass folder... move it below the OntartioClass project folder.This allows the waterclass to use the textures, and isolates the landclass files from them. And this stops the memory leak.===================A shorter fix is to simply delete the "TO Water LC.bgl", and delete the texture folder that contains the waterclass. But then you'll miss the water enhancement.===================Any landclass or waterclass BGL can have an associated texture folder IF that folder contains all the landclass and waterclass textures used by that BGL. In this case, the landclass textures are the defaults, so they need to be in a project folder that doesn't have the twin "texture" sub-folder.Dick
April 9, 200422 yr jim (and team?)excellent stuff!you couldn't make an old CYTZ fanand downtown t.o. dweller like mehappieri had no install problems at allbut that perhaps because i didn't botherto read the instructions;-)thank youuuuuuuuuuu!vilkps.i noticed that your bgl's are clearly named and well organizedwould it be possible to post a table on your sitedescribing the content and functionality of individual bgl's?i noticed a lot of stuttery objects near t.o. harbouri could live without them (and perhaps remove some stutter)if i only knew which bgl's to disablejust an idea. thanks anyway.
April 9, 200422 yr We never came across this memory leak problem.Maybe it will solve the view stutter when looking at the island on lower end machines.As usual, thanks Dickhttp://www.asic.ca/flightontario/jimlogo.gif
April 9, 200422 yr Low-end machines sould remove convair1.bgl from the Toronto2/scenery folder.You might also try Dick's waterclass fix above.Please let me know if things improve for you.http://www.asic.ca/flightontario/jimlogo.gif
April 9, 200422 yr Since my post a few above I had been playing around with the install and had removed the entire OntarioClass/ texture folder.Things then go very well and now I can see the scenery which is stunning.Here - I'm inclined to leave things as they are now as I have already got OceanFX and enhanced water textures anyway. I will delete the ToWaterLC.bgl as suggested above and see if that brings any further benefits.FPS are now back up to where I would expect .This is good scenery and my thanks to the team that produced it.Dave
April 9, 200422 yr Hi Jim.The best way to view the leak would be to use Task Manager, then in the sim, switch seasons. The memory usage goes through the roof.I noticed when viewing only spring, my memory went to 500Mb+... then when switching to summer, it goes to 1Gb+, and the PC slows to a crawl as the HardDrive virtual memory takes over. ( I've got 1Gb of memory ).Task Manager shows the use of about 270Mb when the above fix is applied, and the memory usage stabilizes, even when switching seasons. The memory leak is a feature of FS9.This also indicates that 512Mb is really best for FS9, or else the virtual memory will kick in, and slow down the lower-end machines to a slideshow. That isn't the fault of your scenery, but is just the minumum of memory that a PC should have for FS9.Dick
April 9, 200422 yr Waterclass fix (deleting file and folder) did the trick.Flying now, and so far, so great.Thanks.
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