December 14, 201213 yr I've decided to go lidless soon with a newer batch, moving my current chip down a notch in the system hierarchy. Hoping for 5.0+ with less than 1.5V Hi Techguy, what is the newer batch you referred to? Did you manage to mount the block on the dye? Thanks, Dirk.
December 14, 201213 yr Author Hi Techguy, what is the newer batch you referred to? Did you manage to mount the block on the dye? Thanks, Dirk. Intel manufactures all of their chips over time. The theory is that they work out little bugs and get better at manufacturing chips as time goes on and they gain experience with the manufacturing process. I haven't actually purchased the chip yet, hard to justify the purchase at this point in time but I probably will in the next month or two.
December 14, 201213 yr Intel manufactures all of their chips over time. The theory is that they work out little bugs and get better at manufacturing chips as time goes on and they gain experience with the manufacturing process. I haven't actually purchased the chip yet, hard to justify the purchase at this point in time but I probably will in the next month or two. I thought you already had a specific batch number in mind. How about the lidless cooling, did you try it? Thanks Dirk.
December 14, 201213 yr For example, is 3226C073 Costa Rica a good one? Thanks, Dirk. PS: isn't this razor too thin for the job or is it good? 6/6 reviews gave 5 stars. http://www.amazon.com/OEM-25181-Razor-Blades-Pack/dp/B000CMFJZ2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ac_5
December 14, 201213 yr Author For example, is 3226C073 Costa Rica a good one? Another 3770k owner here on Avsim has a chip from that batch but he hasn't de-lidded it so he only pushed it up to 4.5GHz on an Noctua D14 cooler. You can search the Ivy Bridge overclocking results thread at XtremeSystems for more information on chips from particular batches. PS: isn't this razor too thin for the job or is it good? 6/6 reviews gave 5 stars. http://www.amazon.co...pd_sim_sbs_ac_5 Looks good to me, about the same type I used. I will caution you with that type of blade however to be particularly careful about the angle of insertion as well as the depth you push the blade in to because the back end of that blade has a thicker metal covering which could scratch the packaging of the CPU. That's what happened with mine anyway. Subsequent de-lidding jobs I've done I just used a blade without any kind of protective back like that has. I thought you already had a specific batch number in mind. I've seen a few in that thread @ XS but it's hard to just get a specific chip at a retail store, you know? I'll see what's available when I'm ready to buy, hopefully they'll let me dig through them. How about the lidless cooling, did you try it? Thanks Dirk. Not yet, will do it when I get the new chip.
December 27, 201213 yr Back here with a question after a long system-building break (the build actually went pretty quickly, but life kept getting in the way). I de-lidded a 3770k, the procedure seemed to go well and the chip looked good - no evident damage. However, the motherboard (Asus Maximus V Formula) won't post - gives me error code 55, which means "memory not detected," but from what I've been reading, is often caused by a bad CPU. What do you think? Have I killed my Ivy? Or is a bad motherboard more likely the culprit? Is there any way to tell other than swapping in a new CPU or a new MB? Thanks in advance for any light you can shed. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
December 27, 201213 yr Commercial Member Back here with a question after a long system-building break (the build actually went pretty quickly, but life kept getting in the way). I de-lidded a 3770k, the procedure seemed to go well and the chip looked good - no evident damage. However, the motherboard (Asus Maximus V Formula) won't post - gives me error code 55, which means "memory not detected," but from what I've been reading, is often caused by a bad CPU. What do you think? Have I killed my Ivy? Or is a bad motherboard more likely the culprit? Is there any way to tell other than swapping in a new CPU or a new MB? Thanks in advance for any light you can shed. Did you try with a different set of memory? - Sent from my rooted, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE smartphone via Tapatalk because haters gonna hate. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
December 27, 201213 yr Author Try one stick of RAM at a time, also try playing with various RAM settings including clock speed, timings, and voltage until you find the combo your board likes.
December 27, 201213 yr Did you try with a different set of memory? I think that's the next move. First step was to check switch and jumper settings - slow mode was mistakenly set "on" out of the box ("off" is default) but correcting that setting didn't help. So memory is next, followed by CPU. Current memory is 8 gb (4x2) GSkill Ripjaws DDR3 2400 (F3-2400C10D). It's not on the QVL but that's never been an issue for me before. It calls for 1.65v - am wondering if that could be an issue. Maybe try lower voltage, maybe try a slower DRAM? Try one stick of RAM at a time, also try playing with various RAM settings including clock speed, timings, and voltage until you find the combo your board likes. Tried swapping sticks, tried one at a time, tried different slots, no joy. Can't try the rest because right now the board won't post. Am open to suggestion. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
December 27, 201213 yr Commercial Member I think that's the next move. First step was to check switch and jumper settings - slow mode was mistakenly set "on" out of the box ("off" is default) but correcting that setting didn't help. So memory is next, followed by CPU. Current memory is 8 gb (4x2) GSkill Ripjaws DDR3 2400 (F3-2400C10D). It's not on the QVL but that's never been an issue for me before. It calls for 1.65v - am wondering if that could be an issue. Maybe try lower voltage, maybe try a slower DRAM? Tried swapping sticks, tried one at a time, tried different slots, no joy. Can't try the rest because right now the board won't post. Am open to suggestion. I know it's late for that now but that is why I ALWAYS make sure all my components are working before I OC a system. I first make sure everything works. Was your system working before you de-lidded? - Sent from my rooted, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE smartphone via Tapatalk because haters gonna hate. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
December 27, 201213 yr I know it's late for that now but that is why I ALWAYS make sure all my components are working before I OC a system. I first make sure everything works. Was your system working before you de-lidded? - Sent from my rooted, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE smartphone via Tapatalk because haters gonna hate. No, it's a complete new build - it's just getting its power for the first time. So I'm basically doing what you suggest - trying to get all the parts to talk to each other. Good news is that lights and fans work and look good. Beyond that, nothing yet. I suppose in retrospect I should have gotten the CPU running, then de-lidded, but the thought of installing it, then uninstalling and de-lidding seemed too daunting. Shouldn't have, not when you consider the alternative... Ah, well - live and learn. I've built systems before but never a de-lidded system, so there's always a new place to misstep.... Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
December 27, 201213 yr Commercial Member Yea, that's just how I like to roll hahah I always setup a system NON-OCed. Install Windows, stress test the components at default speeds. Once I know everything is up to par, then I start OC one subsystem at a timw. This way it's easier to troubleshoot if something goes wrong. Right now, you have no idea if any of your compoments were DOA on arrival. - Sent from my rooted, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus LTE smartphone via Tapatalk because haters gonna hate. Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
December 27, 201213 yr Right now, you have no idea if any of your compoments were DOA on arrival. Correct. I'd plan to run at default at first, but with the de-lidding already done, which is clearly not default even if it's set at default speed... so there I go across the line. I'll think about a memory swap but I suspect I've got a virgin Ivy in my future. And of course, if that doesn't work, then I know it's the MB and that goes back to ASUS... sigh... Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
December 27, 201213 yr You can try breadboarding the thing Alan... pull the mb out of the case and put on a piece of cardboard. Just cpu and one stick mem installed and test each slot. I went thru this myself (Bimmer if you start laughing btw !!!). Could be uneven pressure on the cpu or bent / burnt socket pins. See this Asus thread: http://vip.asus.com/...SLanguage=en-us You can either get a cheap set of QVL mem... or a cheap cpu on the supported list and start there. You upgraded the BIOS btw?
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