Did it get deleted?

Looks like it's gone Fred, and I have to say, that's probably a good thing.

"Looks like it's gone Fred, and I have to say, that's probably a good thing."Roger that. Like any ugly divorce, this is a private matter between the principal parties... and one best resolved between them.All anybody will see in a public forum is arrow slinging, posturing, finger pointing, confecture, and inuendo.

I agree, good thing. Ugly, ugly business that I regret posting in.

I do not regret the questions I asked, and I am happy I did not pass judgement either.I am continuing the conversation here:http://pub207.ezboard.com/fpoliticsgivemel...topicID=5.topicI do understand why it may have been removed, since there were some personal attacks in there, IMHO.Regards,Joehttp://home.attbi.com/~jranos/sigban.jpg.Politics - Give Me Liberty or Give Me Deathhttp://pub207.ezboard.com/bpoliticsgivemel...tyorgivemedeath

My question is why was it even started. Wasn't the front page headline enough?Todd

I think it shouldn't of even been started with the thing on the front page. I support MAAM in this but their problem with RCS is their problem, not ours.

"My question is why was it even started. Wasn't the front pageheadline enough?Todd"I have to agree with this one!!Regards, Michaelhttp://mysite.verizon.net/res052cd/mybannercva1.jpgCalVirAir International VAwww.calvirair.comCougar Mountain Helicopters & Aviationwww.cgrmtnhelos.com

Joe,You were a level head, and a good voice to listen to in that thread. You have made me think, and I regret passing judgement so fast.

Hi Fred,One of the hardest things to do is reflect on what one said, and then take responsibility for what you wrote.You should be commended for your regret. It takes integrity to state what you did, and then post that regret.Happy to have helped,Joehttp://home.attbi.com/~jranos/sigban.jpg.Politics - Give Me Liberty or Give Me Deathhttp://pub207.ezboard.com/bpoliticsgivemel...tyorgivemedeath.Contribute to the Richard Harvey Scholarship Fund.http://www.avsim.com/pages/scholarship.shtml

Sonar - tell that guy on the politics forum he's full of it - Rob Young did the MAAM flight model and you're gonna be hard pressed to find someone who'll say that he doesn't make some of the absolute best FDE's out there (The SF.260 and the 172SP are freaking brilliant!) As if anyone (save for the few that own one) should be commenting on the realism of a B-25 FDE anyway!

>Sonar - tell that guy on the politics forum he's full of it ->Rob Young did the MAAM flight model and you're gonna be hard>pressed to find someone who'll say that he doesn't make some>of the absolute best FDE's out there (The SF.260 and the 172SP>are freaking brilliant!) As if anyone (save for the few that>own one) should be commenting on the realism of a B-25 FDE>anyway!I agree with you. I've flown both simulated B-25's, and don't see or "feel" what this writer is talking about. Both models are different, but feel like good and controlled simulations of a medium size twin engine bomber.Neither are able to immediately raise their noses like the B-25's did in the movie ---- "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo", when the yokes are pulled full back and brakes released. They were practicing on a runway ....... not the aircraft carrier.L.Adamson

Well, it was fun while it lasted. As I posted in the snuffed thread: the way MAAM and AVSIM handled the issue here was in very bad taste, but... having a nasty character I thoroughly ENJOY bad taste! So I will sorely miss our very own soap, and sadly in vain will I look for the next instalment...The damage AVSIM did to MAAM by opening and maintaining the thread in question must be considerable. With friends like AVSIM, it seems MAAM doesn't need enemies anymore. Oh, well... in the long run they came to their sense. Jaap Verduijn.

I second that. Ironic that the thread was started by a senior moderator, then had to be deleted. A little more common sense should have prevailed here.

Yeah... unless it was deliberate (evil grin)! Tom Allensworth started a thread that made people realize that in this affair Roy Chaffin behaved like a (wouldya believe it?!) rather well-mannered gentleman, while the MAAM crowd distinguished themselves as a yelling, accusing, insulting, screaming bunch of banshees. Where I live (the Netherlands) the MAAM statement and Bill Rambow's (sorry Bill!) various comments towards RCS, might put him in the dock for alleged libel pretty quick. I don't know how it's legally arranged in the United States and the United Kingdom, the countries where MAAM and RCS are located, but if it's even remotely like "here", AVSIM might have made a major contribution to the possible financial and reputational ruin of MAAM. I believe Tom Allensworth to be an intelligent man, so I do NOT believe for a single moment that he did this "by accident" or from lack of common sense. He's been around long enough to know what you can and what you can't publish without the risk of severe repercussions, so initiating the thread in question and letting it run on for a long time, quite likely was a deliberate decision. Jaap Verduijn.