I'm getting back to good old 727. How do You calculate Vspeeds and Vref? The first time I had this bird, I was only using 2.0 EPR for take off. Also, after installing INS CIVA I couldnt turn any switches/knobs.

Press F10 :rolleyes:

Did you install the CIVA manually or use an installer ?

I hope Harald sees this post and chimes in. He has recently been flying the Dreamfleet 727 with the CIVA INS installed.

Thank You for the replies.

 

I am using EPR table for speed references. Forgive my ignorance but what sort of information we can get by pressing F10?

 

Yes Im using an installer. I read in the manual how to edit panel.cfg and such but I chose the installer instead so I didnt have to do it manually, but the switches and buttons are inop. I'm happy with VOR and ADF, just curious about this INS

Hi, here I am...

After downloading "ins4df727v2.51.zip" and the CIVA gauges itself (following the link in the readme file of the named archive) I installed them into a sandbox first. Then I moved the files into their appropriate places resp. edited the panel.cfg as required. I had to obey the rather complicated folder structure the DF 727 uses, with one folder for the aircraft variant, another for the panels and within the latter two subfolders for 1.) panel.cfg and 2.) the panel bitmaps. I have installed it on the 727-100 passenger version only, using panel.10 variant.

 

BUT: I decided against using the new TCAS/Xponder gauges - I use just the INS itself. For me it works fine after the necessary studying of the manual (you should it rather read one time more...).

 

In this very moment, I'm at work without access to my sim, but I could post my panel.cfg entries later in the evening (in my timezone I just had lunch).

 

Just a tipp: While the knobs and wheels of the DF 727 are mostly moved by left (down) and right (up) mousebutton, the CIVA knobs work with the left button only as the knobs in most stock planes do. Don't forget clicking one time into the center of the INS knobs at the overhead panel to unlock them first, you can turn them to "Standby", "Align" and "NAV" not earlier than after doing so every time (you will see the knob been pulled out a little).

For some hints when inserting coordinates read here:

http://forum.avsim.n...viour-question/

 

Generally, I can only say that I love the DF 727 (I have purchased it after a recommendation of Ian/kiwiflyer as my christmas gift to myself, it's still on sale on the German site of Aerosoft for 12.50 EUR ($ 16 or 17 I believe), but I don't know if you can order it there from anywhere in the world...!). I chose her for my this year southern hemisphere summer RTW trip. Quraisy, I'm currently not far from the airport you have as avatar...

 

F10 = Notepad toggle.

 

Regarding speed, somewhere I read about only three speeds to remark in a 727: 140 kts, 250 kts and "very fast". I have to confess that for the beginning - and as I fly nonscheduled private flights without passengers only - my accuracy in flying departings and approaches doesn't go much beyond this. Coming from the DC-6B, I guess I tend to fly them to slow and with a too low climb/sink rate. I would appreciate help with the speeds, too.

 

Harald

So now here's my panel.cfg - its Panel.10. Note the de-activated add-on TCAS and transponder. Hope this helps a little:

 

[Window Titles]

Window00=Main panel

Window01=First Officer Panel

Window02=Captain Landing Panel

Window03=First Officer Landing Panel

Window04=Overhead Panel

Window05=Flight Engineer Upper Panel

Window06=Flight Engineer Lower Panel

Window07=Flight Engineer auxiliary panel

Window08=INS Control Display Units

Window09=Throttle pedestal

Window10=INS Mode Select Units

Window11=Autopilot

Window12=Radio

Window13=GPS

Window14=Engine

Window15=Gear and flaps

Window16=Minicons

Window17=Eyepoint

Window18=Reality XP WX500 SE DF727

Fixed Window37=Rear Right Up // Rear right wing view

Fixed Window38=Rear Left Up // Rear left wing view

Fixed Window39=Forward Left Up // Left wing view

Fixed Window40=Forward Right Up // Right wing view

 

[VIEWS]

VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,10,11,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25

VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=1.0 // Reduce (eg 0.80) for wider view

VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=9.5, 0.0, 0.0

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_WINDOWS=37

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_ZOOM=1.00 // Reduce (eg 0.80) for wider view

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_EYE=1.2, -0.7, -22.0

VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_UP_DIR=0.0, -1.5, 90.0

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_WINDOWS=38

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_ZOOM=1.00 // Reduce (eg 0.80) for wider view

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_EYE=0.0, -0.7, -24.0

VIEW_REAR_LEFT_UP_DIR=0.0, 1.5, 270.0

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_WINDOWS=39

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_ZOOM=1.00 // Reduce (eg 0.80) for wider view

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_EYE=-1.0, -0.4, -16.0

VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_UP_DIR=6.0, 1.5, 225.0

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_WINDOWS=40

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_ZOOM=1.00 // Reduce (eg 0.80) for wider view

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_EYE=1.6, -0.4, -14.0

VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_UP_DIR=6.0, -1.5, 135.0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

00 CAPTAIN PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window00]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_MAIN.bmp

size_mm=1024

window_size_ratio=1.0

render_3d_window=1

nomenu=0

position=0

visible=1

ident=MAIN_PANEL

type=PANEL

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!MPLT,0,246

gauge01=DF727NJ1!APD,235,466,24

gauge02=DF727NJ1!WNDS,231,497,34

gauge03=DF727NJ1!MAW,321,459,26

gauge04=DF727NJ1!SPDW,217,570,22

gauge05=DF727NJ1!ASI,270,470,120,,MAIN

gauge06=DF727NJ1!CVRI,231,620,

gauge07=DF727NJ1!RMI,282,593,100

gauge08=DF727NJ1!CMPRM,416,427,120

gauge09=DF727NJ1!ADI,415,457,124

gauge10=DF727NJ1!HSI,412,591,129

gauge11=DF727NJ1!HDG,522,721,22,22

gauge12=DF727NJ1!CRS,410,722,21,21

gauge13=DF727NJ1!BC,456,735

gauge14=DF727NJ1!RALTSW,580,425,8

gauge15=DF727NJ1!ANUN,606,376

gauge16=DF727NJ1!BRAKE,680,332,139

gauge17=DF727NJ1!AALP,726,448

gauge18=DF727NJ1!RALT,568, 457,55

gauge19=DF727NJ1!ALT,634,471,98,,CAPT

gauge20=DF727NJ1!OMI,745,481,24

gauge21=DF727NJ4!EVSI,582,591,79,80

//gauge21=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,570,581,100,100, pic:no

gauge22=DF727NJ1!DME2,589,703,38

gauge23=DF727NJ1!GPWS,613,745,55

gauge24=DF727NJ1!ACLK,680,580,103

gauge25=DF727NJ1!SURF,686,696,92

gauge26=DF727NJ2!YDL,802,521,20

gauge27=DF727NJ1!STAB,799,620

gauge28=DF727NJ1!ELWP,799,663

gauge29=DF727NJ1!LTT,879,344,9

gauge30=DF727NJ1!BPRS,857,384

gauge31=DF727NJ1!AALR,866,452

gauge32=DF727NJ1!SALT,829,607,94

gauge33=DF727NJ1!SADI,834,503,84

gauge34=DF727NJ1!TW3,925,470,99,298

gauge35=DF727NJ1!CUTB,582,281

gauge36=DF727NJ1!ENG,934,364,238

gauge37=DF727NJ1!ENGF,483,298

gauge38=DF727NJ1!FD,682,275,131

gauge39=DF727NJ1!FIRE,808,247

gauge40=DF727NJ1!TW2,925,342,99,44

gauge41=DF727NJ1!TW4,678,249,130,35

gauge42=DF727NJ1!TW5,893,0,130,92

gauge43=DF727NJ1!TW12,226,1,532,27

gauge44=DF727NJ1!CTOL,184,335,420,80

gauge45=DF727NJ1!CTOF,842,55,155,197

gauge46=DF727NJ1!KVFL,0,0,190,768

gauge47=DF727NJ6!IPCI,0,0

gauge48=DF727NJ1!PCTRL,0,0

gauge49=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, df727

gauge50=../civa/INS!UpdateFlags, 202,707,46,29

gauge51=../civa/INS!NavModeDual, 208,741,36,24

//gauge52=../civa/INS!MsuPanelIcon, 246, 603, 13, 13, 40

//gauge53=../civa/INS!CduPanelIcon, 233, 603, 13, 13, 41

//gauge54=ILH_TCAS!Logic,1,1,1,1,trafficinfo:yes

//gauge55=ilhtcaschange!TCASControl,1,1,1,2

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01 FIRST OFFICER PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window01]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_FO.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=7

visible=0

nomenu=0

render_3d_window=1

window_pos=0.0,0.0

window_size=1.000,1.000

ident=41

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!FOFLD,0,246

gauge01=DF727NJ1!FIRE_FO,-79,248,317

gauge02=DF727NJ1!FD,209,275,131

gauge03=DF727NJ1!CUTB,365,281,70

gauge04=DF727NJ1!ENG,-159,364,238

gauge05=DF727NJ1!TAT,97,385,39

gauge06=DF727NJ1!FLPR,100,473,35

gauge07=DF727NJ1!MWRN,150,431,33,,FO

gauge08=DF727NJ1!FLP,87,505,58

gauge09=DF727NJ1!LEFLAP,108,648,36

gauge10=DF727NJ1!OILPRES,91,693,74

gauge11=DF727NJ1!GEARH,197,443,,,FO

gauge12=DF727NJ1!GEARL,192,379,80

gauge13=DF727NJ1!FOHYDL,274,361,54,43

gauge14=DF727NJ1!ANUN,329,380,90

gauge15=DF727NJ1!APD,292,464,24

gauge16=DF727NJ1!WNDS,288,496,34

gauge17=DF727NJ1!ASI,328,470,120,,MAIN

gauge18=DF727NJ1!RMI,339,593,100

gauge19=DF727NJ1!FOHY,281,704,51

gauge20=DF727NJ1!FOPN,346,743,51

gauge21=DF727NJ1!CMPRM,470,427,120

gauge22=DF727NJ1!ADI,469,457,124

gauge23=DF727NJ1!HSI,465,591,129

gauge24=DF727NJ1!HDG,575,721,22,22

gauge25=DF727NJ1!CRS,465,723,21,21

gauge26=DF727NJ1!BC,512,735,26

gauge27=DF727NJ1!RALTSW,624,425,8

gauge28=DF727NJ1!RALT,614,457,55

gauge29=DF727NJ1!ALT,676,471,98,,FO

gauge30=DF727NJ1!OMI,789,481,24

gauge31=DF727NJ4!EVSI,626,593,79,80

//gauge31=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,616,584,100,100,pic:no

gauge32=DF727NJ1!ACLK,724,582,103

gauge33=DF727NJ1!DME2,634,703,38

gauge34=DF727NJ1!GPWS,748,703,55

gauge35=DF727NJ1!FTOL,415,335,420,80

gauge36=DF727NJ1!CTOF,26,55,155,197

gauge37=DF727NJ1!TW4,208,249,130,35

gauge38=DF727NJ1!TW12,126,1,532,27

gauge39=DF727NJ1!KVFR,834,0,190,768

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

02 CAPTAIN LANDING PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window02]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_MAIN_L.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=7

visible=0

nomenu=0

render_3d_window=1

window_pos=0.0,0.0

window_size=1.000,1.000

ident=42

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!MPLT,0,296

gauge01=DF727NJ1!APD,235,516,24

gauge02=DF727NJ1!WNDS,231,547,34

gauge03=DF727NJ1!MAW,321,509,26

gauge04=DF727NJ1!SPDW,217,620,22

gauge05=DF727NJ1!RMIBLANK,231,670

gauge06=DF727NJ1!ASI,270,520,120,,MAIN

gauge07=DF727NJ1!RMI,282,643,100

gauge08=DF727NJ1!CMPRM,416,477,120

gauge09=DF727NJ1!ADI,415,507,124

gauge10=DF727NJ1!HSI,412,641,129

gauge11=DF727NJ1!RALTSW,580,475,8

gauge12=DF727NJ1!ANUN,606,426

gauge13=DF727NJ1!BRAKE,680,382,139

gauge14=DF727NJ1!AALP,726,498

gauge15=DF727NJ1!RALT,568, 507,55

gauge16=DF727NJ1!ALT,634,521,98,,CAPTL

gauge17=DF727NJ1!OMI,745,531,24

gauge18=DF727NJ4!EVSI,582,641,79,80

//gauge18=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,571,630,100,100,pic:no

gauge19=DF727NJ1!DME2,589,753,38

gauge20=DF727NJ1!ACLK,680,630,103

gauge21=DF727NJ1!SURF,686,746,92

gauge22=DF727NJ2!YDL,802,571,20

gauge23=DF727NJ1!STAB,799,670

gauge24=DF727NJ1!ELWP,799,713

gauge25=DF727NJ1!LTT,879,394,9

gauge26=DF727NJ1!BPRS,857,434

gauge27=DF727NJ1!AALR,866,502

gauge28=DF727NJ1!SALT,829,657,94

gauge29=DF727NJ1!SADI,834,553,84

gauge30=DF727NJ1!ENG,934,414,238

gauge31=DF727NJ1!CUTB,582,331

gauge32=DF727NJ1!ENGF,483,348

gauge33=DF727NJ1!FD,682,325,131

gauge34=DF727NJ1!FIRE,808,297

gauge35=DF727NJ2!LLTS,902,0,127

gauge36=DF727NJ1!CTOL,184,385,420,80

gauge37=DF727NJ1!FTOL,842,85,155,197

gauge38=DF727NJ1!TW4,678,299,130,35

gauge39=DF727NJ1!TW12,226,1,532,27

gauge40=DF727NJ1!KVFL,0,0,190,768

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

03 FIRST OFFICER LANDING PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window03]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_FO_L.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=0

visible=0

nomenu=0

render_3d_window=1

window_pos=0.0,0.0

window_size=1.000,1.000

ident=43

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!FOFLD,0,296

gauge01=DF727NJ1!FIRE_FO,-79,298,317

gauge02=DF727NJ1!FD,209,325,131

gauge03=DF727NJ1!CUTB,365,331,70

gauge04=DF727NJ1!ENG,-159,415,238

gauge05=DF727NJ1!TAT,97,434,39

gauge06=DF727NJ1!FLP,87,554,58

gauge07=DF727NJ1!MWRN,150,481,33,,FO

gauge08=DF727NJ1!FLPR,100,522,35

gauge09=DF727NJ1!LEFLAP,108,697,36

gauge10=DF727NJ1!OILPRES,91,743,74

gauge11=DF727NJ1!GEARL,190,428,80

gauge12=DF727NJ1!GEARH,197,493,,,FO

gauge13=DF727NJ1!FOHYDL,274,411,54,43

gauge14=DF727NJ1!ANUN,329,429,90

gauge15=DF727NJ1!APD,292,514,24

gauge16=DF727NJ1!WNDS,288,544,34

gauge17=DF727NJ1!ASI,328,520,120,,MAIN

gauge18=DF727NJ1!RMI,339,643,100

gauge19=DF727NJ1!FOHY,281,753,51

gauge20=DF727NJ1!CMPRM,470,477,120

gauge21=DF727NJ1!ADI,469,507,124

gauge22=DF727NJ1!HSI,466,641,129

gauge23=DF727NJ1!RALTSW,624,475,8

gauge24=DF727NJ1!RALT,613,507,55

gauge25=DF727NJ1!ALT,678,521,98,,FOL

gauge26=DF727NJ1!OMI,789,531,24

gauge27=DF727NJ4!EVSI,627,641 ,79,80

//gauge27=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,617,632,100,100,pic:no

gauge28=DF727NJ1!ACLK,725,630,103

gauge29=DF727NJ1!DME2,634,753,38

gauge30=DF727NJ1!GPWS,748,755,55

gauge31=DF727NJ1!FTOL,415,385,420,80

gauge32=DF727NJ1!CTOL,26,85,155,197

gauge33=DF727NJ1!TW4,208,299,130,35

gauge34=DF727NJ1!TW12,126,1,532,27

gauge35=DF727NJ1!KVFR,834,0,190,768

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

04 OVERHEAD PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window04]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_OH.bmp

size_mm=1024,768

ident=10

background_color=0,0,0

window_size_ratio=1.00

position=0

visible=0

render_3d_window=0

nomenu=0

window_size= 1.000, 1.000

window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

 

gauge00=DF727NJ2!OVHD,0,0,1024

gauge01=DF727NJ1!TW9,974,0,50,50

gauge02=../civa/INS!Msu1, 293,207,174,48

gauge03=../civa/INS!Msu2, 293,255,174,50

//gauge04=ILH_TCAS!Transponder, 293,131,176,74

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

05 FLIGHT ENGINEER UPPER PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window05]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_FE_UP.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=0

visible=0

ident=11

render_3d_window=1

nomenu=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!FLDU,0,0,1024

gauge01=DF727NJ2!ACGN,48,207,249

gauge02=DF727NJ2!BUST,27,351,270

gauge03=DF727NJ2!ESSP,304,195,107

gauge04=DF727NJ2!HTST,445,473,152

gauge05=DF727NJ2!BAT,415,540,180

gauge06=DF727NJ2!OXY,437,101,161

gauge07=DF727NJ2!OXYC,416,183,199

gauge08=DF727NJ2!BLEED,623,109,359,199

gauge09=DF727NJ2!CABAIR,629,324,366

gauge10=DF727NJ1!OW1,0,722,1024,45

gauge11=DF727NJ1!TW7,415,0,200,80

gauge12=DF727NJ1!TW8,944,0,80,80

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

06 FLIGHT ENGINEER LOWER PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window06]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_FE_LWR.bmp

size_mm=1024

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=0

visible=0

ident=13

render_3d_window=1

nomenu=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ5!FLDL,0,0,1024

gauge01=DF727NJ2!FUEL,25,53,543,373

gauge02=DF727NJ2!FLHT,238,469,158,201

gauge03=DF727NJ2!OIL,581,74,219

gauge04=DF727NJ2!HYDL,426,474,369

gauge05=DF727NJ1!GPWSSW,166,606,29,67

gauge06=DF727NJ2!AUDIO1,42,471,170

gauge07=DF727NJ2!ANUN,822,312,160

gauge08=DF727NJ1!CLOK,835,224,77

gauge09=DF727NJ2!OXYS,808,431

gauge10=DF727NJ1!COG,44,635,36

gauge11=DF727NJ2!ELTS,807,59

gauge12=DF727NJ2!ELFL,907,616

gauge13=DF727NJ2!EQCL,952,616

gauge14=DF727NJ2!RUDL,952,652

gauge15=DF727NJ2!OILC,825,634

gauge16=DF727NJ1!TW8,974,0,50,50

gauge17=DF727NJ1!TW10,0,0,967,50

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

07 FLIGHT ENGINEERS AUXILIARY PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window07]

Background_color=16,16,16

size_mm=202,455

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=7

visible=0

ident=12

window_size= 0.197, 0.592

window_pos= 0.403, 0.108

nomenu=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ2!APU,0,0,202,362

gauge01=DF727NJ1!LEFL,0,362

gauge02=DF727NJ1!TW7,0,0,202,20

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08 RESERVED FOR 3RD PARTY ADD-ON USE

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window08]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/insses.bmp

Background_color=81,94,117

size_mm=634,270

window_size_ratio=1.000

position=8

visible=0

ident=17

window_size= 0.619, 0.352

window_pos= 0.800, 0.670

 

gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu1, 0,0,200,158

gauge01=../civa/Ins!Adeu1, 0,158,200,82

gauge02=../civa/ins!Cdu2, 436,1,200,158

gauge03=../civa/Ins!Adeu2, 436,158,200,82

gauge04=RealityXP_WX500_SE_DF727!RDR, 200,0,237,213

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

09 THROTTLE PEDESTAL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window09]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_PEDESTAL.bmp

size_mm=292

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=8

visible=0

ident=14

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!TCLO,262,17,30,30

gauge01=DF727NJ3!THROT,0,0,292,343

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

10 COMPASS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window10]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_COMPASS.bmp

size_mm=102

window_size_ratio=1.0

WINDOW_POS=0.9003,0.0

visible=0

ident=16

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!COMP,45,13,70,73

gauge01=DF727NJ1!TW5,0,0,102,42

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11 AUTOPILOT

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window11]

size_mm=326

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=2

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

ident=20

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!ACLO,306,0,30,30

gauge01=DF727NJ1!AP,0,0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12 RADIO

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window12]

size_mm=326,487

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=8

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

ident=19

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!PCLO,296,0,30,30

gauge01=DF727NJ3!PEDC,0,0

gauge02=DF727NJ1!AP,0,93

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

13 MSFS GPS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window13]

//size_mm=456,378

size_mm=257,213

//window_size=0.35

position=5

BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0

VISIBLE=0

ident=21

 

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0,257,213

//gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

14 ENGINE

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window14]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_ENG.bmp

size_mm=234

position=2

visible=0

ident=23

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!TW3,184,342,50,50

gauge01=DF727NJ5!ENGF,0,342

gauge02=DF727NJ1!ENG,-3,364,238,389

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

15 FLAP AND GEAR

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window15]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_FLAP.bmp

size_mm=234

position=2

visible=0

ident=24

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!TW2,184,342,50,50

gauge01=DF727NJ5!FLPF,0,342

gauge02=DF727NJ1!FLP,11,503,60

gauge03=DF727NJ1!GEARH,172,449,66

gauge04=DF727NJ1!GEARL,127,379,78

gauge05=DF727NJ1!OILPRES,16,693,74

gauge06=DF727NJ1!LEFLAP,33,648

gauge07=DF727NJ1!TAT,22,386

gauge08=DF727NJ1!MWRN,81,431,33

gauge09=DF727NJ1!FLPR, 25,471

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

16 MINICONS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window16]

BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2

size_mm=148,63

window_size_ratio=1.0

window_pos=0.24, 0.92

visible=0

ident=25

nomenu=0

render_3d_window=1

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!TW1,118,0,30,30

gauge01=DF727NJ1!MINICONS,0,0

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

17 EYEPOINT

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window17]

BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2

size_mm=75,85

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=1

visible=0

ident=26

nomenu=0

render_3d_window=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!EYEP,0,0,170

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18 WEATHER RADAR

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Window18]

BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2

size_mm=234,214

window_size_ratio=1.0

position=2

visible=0

ident=85

 

gauge00=RealityXP_WX500_SE_DF727!RDR,0,0,234,214

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

COCKPIT VIEWS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Fixed Window37]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_WING.bmp

size_mm=1024,768

visible=0

nomenu=1

render_3d_window=1

window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

ident=37

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!FWDV,0,0,1024,768

 

[Fixed Window38]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_WING.bmp

size_mm=1024,768

visible=0

nomenu=1

render_3d_window=1

window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

ident=38

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!FWDV,0,0,1024,768

 

[Fixed Window39]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_LWING_REAR.bmp

size_mm=1024,768

visible=0

nomenu=1

render_3d_window=1

window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

ident=39

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!FWDV,0,0,1024,768

 

[Fixed Window40]

file=../../Flight One 727/panel/DF727PG_RWING_REAR.bmp

size_mm=1024,768

visible=0

nomenu=1

render_3d_window=1

window_pos=0.0,0.0

ident=40

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!FWDV,0,0,1024,768

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

VC PANEL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Vcockpit01]

size_mm=512,403

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_1_lit

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!APDVC,22,108,19

gauge01=DF727NJ1!WNDS,18,133,27,,VC

gauge02=DF727NJ1!MAWVC,90,101,19

gauge03=DF727NJ1!VCSPDW,9,186,17

gauge04=DF727NJ1!ASI,50,112,95,,VC

gauge05=DF727NJ1!RMI,58,209,82,,VC

gauge06=DF727NJ1!CMPRVC,167,77,93

gauge07=DF727NJ1!ADI,166,100,97,100

gauge08=DF727NJ1!HSI,163,207,103

gauge09=DF727NJ1!HDG,251,311,16

gauge10=DF727NJ1!CRS,161,311,16

gauge11=DF727NJ1!VCBKCRS,202,320,19,41

gauge12=DF727NJ1!VCRALTSW,292,78,15

gauge13=DF727NJ1!ANUNVC,318,37,71

gauge14=DF727NJ1!AALPVC,413,94,27

gauge15=DF727NJ1!RALT,288,102,43

gauge16=DF727NJ1!VCDH,314,180,10

gauge17=DF727NJ1!ALT,339,111,78

gauge18=DF727NJ1!OMI,428,121,19,,VC

gauge19=DF727NJ4!EVSI,299,210,60

//gauge19=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,292,200,75,75,pic:no

gauge20=DF727NJ1!DME2,304,297,29

gauge21=DF727NJ1!GPWS,323,329,44,18

gauge22=DF727NJ1!ACLK,377,200,80

gauge23=DF727NJ1!SURF,380,293,73

gauge24=DF727NJ2!YDL,473,152,16,,VC

gauge25=DF727NJ1!STAB,470,231,22

gauge26=DF727NJ1!ELWP,470,263,23

 

[Vcockpit02]

size_mm=356,403

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_2_lit

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!LTTVC,36,22,8

gauge01=DF727NJ1!VCBPRS,23,49,30

gauge02=DF727NJ1!AALR,29,104,40

gauge03=DF727NJ1!VCALTA,53,111,15

gauge04=DF727NJ1!SADI,5,144,66

gauge05=DF727NJ1!SALT,0,227,74

gauge06=DF727NJ1!ENG,81,34,188,308

gauge07=DF727NJ1!TAT,286,50,28

gauge08=DF727NJ1!VCFLPR,285,119,28

gauge09=DF727NJ1!FLP,275,144,47

gauge10=DF727NJ1!MWRN,325,86,27

gauge11=DF727NJ1!VCLEFLAP,292,259,29

gauge12=DF727NJ1!VCOILPRES,279,295,60

 

[Vcockpit03]

size_mm=512,403

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_3_lit

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!GEARL,3,47,64,60,,VC

gauge01=DF727NJ1!FOHYDL,70,31,44,35

gauge02=DF727NJ1!ANUNVC,114,47,71

gauge03=DF727NJ1!APDVC,85,113,19

gauge04=DF727NJ1!WNDS,81,138,27,,VC

gauge05=DF727NJ1!FOHY,76,304,40

gauge06=DF727NJ1!FOPN,129,336,40

gauge07=DF727NJ1!ASI,113,119,95,,VC

gauge08=DF727NJ1!RMI,121,215,82,,VC

gauge09=DF727NJ1!CMPRVC,228,84,93

gauge10=DF727NJ1!ADI,227,106,97,100

gauge11=DF727NJ1!HSI,224,214,103

gauge12=DF727NJ1!HDG,311,318,16

gauge13=DF727NJ1!CRS,222,319,16

gauge14=DF727NJ1!VCBKCRS,262,328,19,41

gauge15=DF727NJ1!VCRALTSW,345,84,16

gauge16=DF727NJ1!RALT,341,108,43

gauge17=DF727NJ1!VCDH,369,186,8

gauge18=DF727NJ1!ALT,391,118,78

gauge19=DF727NJ1!OMI,480,126,19,,VC

gauge20=DF727NJ4!EVSI,352,216,60

//gauge20=ILH_TCAS!IVSIb,345,210,75,75,pic:no

gauge21=DF727NJ1!DME2,359,304,29

gauge22=DF727NJ1!GPWS,448,304,44,18

gauge24=DF727NJ1!ACLK,429,207,80

 

[Vcockpit04]

size_mm=1024,84

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_9

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ1!ENGF,8,47,47,26

gauge01=DF727NJ1!CUTB,102,35,70,35

gauge02=DF727NJ1!FD,220,19,124,65,VC

gauge03=DF727NJ1!FD,684,19,124,65,VC

gauge04=DF727NJ1!CUTB,846,35,73,35

 

[Vcockpit05]

Background_color=0,0,0

size_mm=568,651

visible=0

pixel_size=512,512

texture=$DF_727_4

 

gauge00=DF727NJ2!OVHD, -82,0,733,651

gauge01=../civa/INS!Msu1, 128,173,126,40

gauge02=../civa/INS!Msu2, 128,214,126,41

//gauge03=ILH_TCAS!Transponder, 129,110,123,60,VC

 

[Vcockpit06]

size_mm=261,404

pixel_size=512,512

texture=$DF_727_6

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=DF727NJ3!PEDC,0,0,261,440

gauge01=DF727NJ1!AP,0,84,261,73

 

[Vcockpit07]

size_mm=512,512

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_5

background_color=0,0,0

visible=0

 

gauge00=RealityXP_WX500_SE_DF727!RDR,160,64,202,192

 

[Vcockpit08]

Background_color=0,0,0

size_mm=512,512

visible=0

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$DF_727_5b

 

gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu11, 1,18,158,124

gauge01=../civa/ins!Cdu21, 355,18,156,123

gauge02=../civa/Ins!Adeu1, 2,143,156,62

gauge03=../civa/Ins!Adeu2, 355,141,156,61

 

Day=255,255,255

Night=100,90,90

Luminous=0,0,0

 

[Default View]

X=0

Y=0

SIZE_X=8192

SIZE_Y=6570

Can't help you with the CIVA, but here are some useful rules of thumb for Vspeeds: http://www.boeing-727.com/Data/fly%20odds/thumb.html

 

DJ

Absorbing the sheer of information, I took sometime to think and try, sorry for the late reply. Harald, thanks a lot buddy... yes I was trying to get the 727 on sale at aerosoft but it was only available in Germany .. as You notice my avatar, I am nowhere near Germany... I am wondering where on earth You reside now.. will definitely copy your panel config. 2 things that I found are the (semi) autopilot works excellent and in fact it is a lot better than CS737-200 although there should be little chasm between them. Second, I hardly noticed gear roll sound when touchdown on the tarmac (yes, I finally had this bird land on the tarmac without overshooting doh). Have You experienced the missing gear roll sound?

 

 

Ubersu AKA DJ, thanks for the useful links.. I skip CIVA INS for a while and fly this bird as is.. I am happy.. roaming the support forum on Flightsim, there is no sign Paul Golding will continue developing the 727X, well, the progress was very slow He said

Quraisy, you're right, I reside in Germany, but every year when it gets November or December I undertake a round-the-world flight with my FS2004 to escape darkness and cold. This year's flight is undertaken with my "private" 727, and a week ago this flight lead me to Bali, Surabaya and Jakarta (loaded the baggage compartments of my plane full of these delicious Indonesian coffee candy). The Bali-Surabaya flight was the first and only VFR flight with the 727. At Surabaya, AES unfortunately worked only at the old terminal area, but with a private 727 one parks hardly between the commercial liners.

 

Regarding gear roll sound, I can hear it. But I had another similar problem: Although I followed the advice to load FS2004 standard flight (Cessna at Seattle...) first, then chose location and DF727, then save a flight strictly with 2D panel sight, I hardly heard the "oil pressurizing - N2 - 19%" callouts when starting the engines. There are some mentions of this problem in the flightsinm/DF727 forum but without a solution. For me, I solved the problem assigning a key shortcut to the "reload user aircraft" command (in fs9.cfg its the line RELOAD_USER_AIRCRAFT= under the keybord assignments section) and everytime I load my flight I reload my aircraft first. Maybe this solves the gear roll sound issue, too.

 

I think the DF727 (or any good 727 - before I used the HJG model, and although not as sophisticated as DF's, it was a superb freeware model ) is a pleasure with and without INS. In my case, at a RTW trip with a leg Punta Arenas - McMurdo, where magnetic heading goes crazy and you have no navaid within several thousand miles, INS helped a lot to have dinner and bring my little son to bed while the 727 took her way 30,000 feet above whiteout.

 

Wish you allways three green with the 727.

May I ask which livery and version do you use, and will you simulate vintage passenger flights, contemporary passenger/cargo flights or will you use it as a private plane as I do?

 

Harald

Quraisy, you're right, I reside in Germany, but every year when it gets November or December I undertake a round-the-world flight with my FS2004 to escape darkness and cold. This year's flight is undertaken with my "private" 727, and a week ago this flight lead me to Bali, Surabaya and Jakarta (loaded the baggage compartments of my plane full of these delicious Indonesian coffee candy). The Bali-Surabaya flight was the first and only VFR flight with the 727. At Surabaya, AES unfortunately worked only at the old terminal area, but with a private 727 one parks hardly between the commercial liners.

 

Regarding gear roll sound, I can hear it. But I had another similar problem: Although I followed the advice to load FS2004 standard flight (Cessna at Seattle...) first, then chose location and DF727, then save a flight strictly with 2D panel sight, I hardly heard the "oil pressurizing - N2 - 19%" callouts when starting the engines. There are some mentions of this problem in the flightsinm/DF727 forum but without a solution. For me, I solved the problem assigning a key shortcut to the "reload user aircraft" command (in fs9.cfg its the line RELOAD_USER_AIRCRAFT= under the keybord assignments section) and everytime I load my flight I reload my aircraft first. Maybe this solves the gear roll sound issue, too.

 

I think the DF727 (or any good 727 - before I used the HJG model, and although not as sophisticated as DF's, it was a superb freeware model ) is a pleasure with and without INS. In my case, at a RTW trip with a leg Punta Arenas - McMurdo, where magnetic heading goes crazy and you have no navaid within several thousand miles, INS helped a lot to have dinner and bring my little son to bed while the 727 took her way 30,000 feet above whiteout.

 

Wish you allways three green with the 727.

May I ask which livery and version do you use, and will you simulate vintage passenger flights, contemporary passenger/cargo flights or will you use it as a private plane as I do?

 

Harald

 

Hi Harald. Thanks for your encouragement. SBR to BLI is a very short hop, all I needed to do was tune 113.4 MHz it's about 2 km or 1nm to airport from SBR @ 109°mag (110° radial).. and directly tune 116.2 MHz, but BLI is rather far from the airport, it's more than 100km from the aiprort. And tell me how You enjoyed that 180 degrees turn for rwy 09? Be aware that pristine white sandy beach as that might cause you overshooting... )

 

I'm now still flying to enhance my airmanship with the bird, 727-100, Im saving the best part for last (boy how do I admire T-tail, trimotor with winglets... the sexiest plane!) and will fly the other variants when I suffice my dead reckoning and radio navigation skills... One thing that I have never experienced with my other aircraft is I always keep an eye on the instruments, which is I love it.. and of course, Count Basie's tunes.

 

Yes, AES only works with the old Juanda airport designed by Budi Santoso. There is also Adi Sutjipto (Yogyakarta) which is AES supported, both of them are freeware and don't need no AES credits to activate. So where are You up to now?

 

Will comply with the tips above about the missing gear roll sound.

 

Have a safe and nice sentimental journey sir... ah by the way Harald, this might interest you while you're cruising (

http://www.mymodernm...bell-boeing-727 )

..make sure You deactivate that Pause On Switching Task sir.. :hi:

Hi, how I wish I sat in the cockpit again, now I'm at work...

 

I needed my FSCommander to describe my trip to Bali detailled - at the moment I only can say that when I was there, at Bali rwy 27 was the active, and as I was VFR flying and as I'm interested in volcanoes I took a course north of Bali and around Mt. Agung.

 

I never had a problem overshooting the runway with the B727; I rather tend to be too slow at approach - as I mentioned earlier, this may be a habit from flying the DC-6 for the last years almost exclusively (but it seems that this habit was not completely useless at some of the airports named in the next paragraph). In summer I use my Bf 109 of course, but this is a completely different thing. One of the useful habits learned by DC-6 flying is of course observing the instruments, even for the purpose of flying a coordinated turn, although the yaw damper of the 727 makes this still a little difficult.

 

Some words about my this year trip, which I started in early December:

EDDC - LSGG - DTAA - LXGB - GCTS - LPHR - KPHL - KOPF - MGGT - MHTG - MROC - SEQU - SPIM - SPZO - SLLP - SLSU - SGAS - SUMU - SCEL - SCTC - SCCI - McMurdo Station - NZAA - YSSY - YBNA - YBBN - AGGH - PKMJ - PTRO - WARR - WADD - WIII - RPLL - ZJSY - VTBD, where I am currently.

Next destinations are VECC - ZULS - VNKT - ZWSH - UTDD and after this the plans aren't fixed, I think I should visit UAFM, UAAA, UTTT, UGTB as every year, but then OMDB should be visited and perhaps Africa and Latin America a second time this year because I recently bought SAEZ and the Sao Paulo/Rio series and because I'm so fast with the 727. We'll see...

 

Thanks Sir for the link! The differences to my 727 are:

- the interior of my bird is a little more luxurious, I imagine a level similar to this one - but not that campy, more Bauhaus style

http://www.aircraft2...27--xm10104.htm

(note the price of these planes...)

AND:

- mine flies! (By the way, you can see a picture of her on PTRO approach in Pete McKays thread about his RTW flight, being one of the most interesting threads currently active IMHO, post #34.)

 

Harald