February 28, 201313 yr Hi RC4 does not seem to recognize my add on airports. For example I have UK 2000 EGSS (Stansted) and the runways are 22 / 04 but after rebuilding the scenery data base in RC4 it still refers to rwy 23 / 05 which is the default FSX airport. What could I be doing wrong? Thanks. Dennis Dennis Elliott
February 28, 201313 yr Commercial Member find the pinned topic at the top, and download and install the latest version of makerwys.exe into the fs root directory then start rc, and click the rebuild rc scenery database button if makerwys still can't find the airports, then there is probably something wrong with the order of priority of the scenery files in fs jd JD Read my blog
February 28, 201313 yr Author Jd I did what you said but still no luck. UK 2000 EGSS is near the top in my scenery library. What else can I check? My path to FSX is C:\Program Files(x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X When I rebuild the data base, the boxes appear,and I click ok on them and there is no delay at all,they just close instantly and the next one opens up. Is that normal? The files...rc4x and rc4 are in C:Program Files(x86) not in FSX is that correct? Thanks. Dennis Dennis Elliott
February 28, 201313 yr Moderator Dennis, Open Runways.txt in the FSX folder and search for all instances of EGSS. This is the log created when makerunways.exe is run. It may be helpful to paste all EGSS entries here so they can be checked. It's a large file so may take a while to open. Files are copied to RC4\data folder so you could check those have been updated. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
February 28, 201313 yr If you have both rcv4 and rcv4x folders then you told the installer that you have both FS9 and FSX folders. Since you are an FSX user create a shortcut to rcv4.exe in the rcv4x folder and then name that shortcut rcv4x to separate it from the FS9 installation folder version named rcv4. Now run the scenery rebuild by starting RC with the RCv4X shortcut you made. For the scenery rebuild you need C:\Program Files(x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X to be entered each time (I keep the path in a text file with a desktop shortcut so I can copy/paste into the RC scenery rebuild dialog - less chance for typos and less keystrokes.). If you do not use FS9 you can safely delete the rcv4 folder keeping the rcv4x folder to avoid confusion. To see if the files for the rebuild copied OK go into your rcv4x\data folder and check the modified date-times for r4.csv and a4.csv for near the date-time of your rebuild session. If the timestamps are OK then with wordpad open r4.csv and search for EGSS. I do not have the updated scenery but just the fs9 version have: EGSS,0050,51.875332,0.220331,348,46.000,9945,110.50BDG,151,-3.000,51.885307,0.235401,0,, EGSS,0230,51.895283,0.250472,348,226.000,9945,110.50BDG,151,-3.000,51.885307,0.235401,0,, I highlighted the runway number which show 05 and 023. (If there were parallels labeled the same the last 0 would be 1 for left, 2 for right, and 3 for center as needed.) Your two lines should be updated for the scenery you have. To elaborate on what Ray stated, user wordpad or word to open runways.txt in your FSX folder. As stated it is a huge file and takes a few seconds to load and search. Search for "Airport EGSS". The first instance will turn up a section and you'll see a scenery path pointing to the default airport location APnnnnnnn.bgl. Do a find next and if there is an add-on found you'll find a section with deletions. Check the path to the scenery. Repeat the search and you should find a section pointing to the same path and look through it for the runway labels. If it is correct than repeat the search again. The last pair of delete/add sections dominate the data going into RC's runway information file so you keep repeating the search insuring that the last sections of Airport EGSS point to the correct scenery. You found the last "Airport EGSS" section when the search states end of document. If the last sections point elsewhere but previous ones were correct then you indeed have a conflict with scenery priority in the FSX scenery library settings which is the reference (scenery.cfg) that makerwys.exe uses for its data extraction. The usual error for dual installations of RC is that for the rcv4.exe in the folder selected the user input for the scenery rebuild points to the opposite FS version folder. Now, checking the operation, start RCv4X with that shortcut you made. Click the scenery rebuild button. If RC and FSX are on the same pc answer NO to the WideFS question. Enter the path to your FSX folder. After confirming that you should see makerwys offer to start and you click OK. Makerwys will display an airport count, etc, as it extracts the data and eventually you will get a dialog box stating it completed. Click OK. You will then get status boxes from RC about copying r4.csv (click OK) and building a4.csv (click OK). After you click OK on Finished Building a4.csv click OK but wait about 30 seconds to insure disk writes are complete. You can then close RC and in your next session RC will use the updated data. If RC is on a client PC to an FS host PC via the Wide FS network, then before you start RC go into your FSX folder and run makerwys.exe directly first. Then start RC and when you get to the WideFS query answer YES and you'll get the notice to first run makerwys directly. OK that and then be sure to put in the network path to FSX. If all is OK then you'll go directly to the file copy process described in the previous paragraph for r4.csv and creating a4.csv.
March 1, 201313 yr Author Ron First,let me thank you for all the time you are spending helping me with this. I have tried all the things you suggest (I think) still no change. I just did a re install of RC4 It was installed for FSX only ( FSX Full/RC 4.3/Chatter/Pilot and communications) it still created a RC4 folder again also. I deleted it! Now I open RC4x and start RC4, I click on the rebuild scenery data base, I am asked if this is a Wide fs, I say No. I then enter the path C:\Program Files(x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X. The first box appears, I click ok, it goes straight to the next one,I click ok....etc I dont think it is doing anything I then went to the makerwys.exe and ran it from there. That took a few mins, but still no change. The time stamp has not changed on the Data. I went into that Rwys,txt and managed to find EDDF (Aerosoft) another problem airport, and the only runways there are, 07 / 25L and 07 / 25R There should be a 07C / 25C but it is not there So I dont think it is updating correctly. I have never had FS9 but there are files in my FSX folder named FS2000, FS2004 and FS9. They have always been there but they are grey not blue like FSX. so I dont know what they do. That is what I have done so far When I installed the last time I noticed the files....rcv43.0.bin and rcv43.1.bin...do I need to do anything with them? Thanks. Dennis . Thank for your help with this. I know it is something wrong this end,not the program. Dennis Elliott
March 1, 201313 yr Author Ron First,let me thank you for all the time you are spending helping me with this. I have tried all the things you suggest (I think) still no change. I just did a re install of RC4 It was installed for FSX only ( FSX Full/RC 4.3/Chatter/Pilot and communications) it still created a RC4 folder again also. I deleted it! Now I open RC4x and start RC4, I click on the rebuild scenery data base, I am asked if this is a Wide fs, I say No. I then enter the path C:\Program Files(x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X. The first box appears, I click ok, it goes straight to the next one,I click ok....etc I dont think it is doing anything I then went to the makerwys.exe and ran it from there. That took a few mins, but still no change. The time stamp has not changed on the Data. I went into that Rwys,txt and managed to find EDDF (Aerosoft) another problem airport, and the only runways there are, 07 / 25L and 07 / 25R There should be a 07C / 25C but it is not there So I dont think it is updating correctly. I have never had FS9 but there are files in my FSX folder named FS2000, FS2004 and FS9. They have always been there but they are grey not blue like FSX. so I dont know what they do. That is what I have done so far When I installed the last time I noticed the files....rcv43.0.bin and rcv43.1.bin...do I need to do anything with them? Thanks. Dennis . Thank for your help with this. I know it is something wrong this end,not the program. Could you tell me if the rcv4x folder should be in Program Files(x86) or actually in the FSX folder? Dennis Elliott
March 1, 201313 yr Moderator Dennis, Try installing outside Program Files(x86). I suggest C:\RC4. There can be problems with Program Files as it's highly protected by the OS. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
March 1, 201313 yr Author Hi Guys. I did another re install,this time directing RS4 to C:\Program Files(x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Rc4. This seems to have worked as the time stamp is updating now,and I am hearing ground at EDDF (Aerosoft) directing planes to runway 07C. So it looks good so far! Thanks for all the help everyone. I really do appreciate it. All the best. Dennis. Dennis Elliott
March 2, 201313 yr Author I still seem to have a problem with the updates. It seems the only files being updated are a4.csv c4,csv and f4.csv. r4 .csv still has a date of 2007 on it . What else can I try Thanks. Dennis Dennis Elliott
March 2, 201313 yr First make sure you are looking at the modified, not created dates. If you have two RC folders, rcv4 and rcv4x for both FS9 and FSX, be sure for the version of FS you are updating, you start RC from the correct folder for that version and then when prompted put in the correct path to that FS folder. You also should have a shortcut set up for each version of RC if a dual installation, and if on Win 7 or VISTA have each of those shortcuts set with a security proper set to run as admin (different from logging in as an admin). If RC and FS are on the same PC answer no to the WideFS question, put in your full FS path, and it should continue from there first running makerwys.exe (latest version 4.615 is at http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/ ) and after makerwys finishes and you OK it you should then get a dialog box stating copying r5,csv to r4.csv (or similar), OK if needed, then creating a4.csv, then OK it, and then building a4.csv followed by finished building a4.csv. After you OK that wait about 15 seconds for disk writes to complete be fore closing and restarting RC. If you are on a Wide FS network with RC on a client to an FS host then before starting RC go directly to your host FS folder and run makerwys.exe directly. When it finishes OK it and then start RC going to the scenery rebuild and answering Yes to the widefs question. Put in the full network path to FS and RC will jump directly to the file copying and creating as described above. In your rcv4\data folder unless you edited c4.csv (airline and aircraft manufacturer list) that date should not change from the install date. Only r4.csv and a4.csv should have time stamps for the current rebuild. You also might want to check that in your fs foldr that r5.csv has a current time stamp as modified as well. For now ignore the updated f4.csv file in your FS folder. That is for a special case.
March 3, 201313 yr Author Only a4.csv and c4.csv are showing updated time stamps. not f4.csv When I click on the update button I just get the boxes and click ok on them as they appear. There is no dialog,and it all just takes a few seconds. Dennis Dennis Elliott
March 3, 201313 yr Only r4.csv and a4.csv in the rcv4\data directory are updated when clicking "scenery rebuild db". nothing else should be changed. There is no automatic update of c4.csv. Are you running version 4.3845 of RC? Only previous versions had an "update" button for application updates and fixed data such as c4.csv when airlines were added along with wavs. Those were on-line updates - no longer available.
March 3, 201313 yr Author I am running 4.3.3845. Do you think trying a fresh download would help? Dennis Dennis Elliott
March 3, 201313 yr I would try after getting a new download then deleting RC and reinstalling. If your e-mail and user name is the same if you install it in a new place (different drive letter) you will need a new key and also with the same user data it should go through the auto registration. If you reinstall it on the same drive your existing key should work. Something you can check, however, is configured on your install. There is a file in your rcv4 folder called makerunways.bat. Right click on it and choose edit. It should look similar to this: del .\data\a4.csv h: cd "h:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator 9" makerwys.exe copy r5.csv "H:\rcv4\data\r4.csv" The path after the cd is what you put in at the start of the rebuild. The installer set the rcv4\data path for copying r5.csv in your FS folder to your rcv4\data folder as r4.csv. If the rc path in there is incorrect I suggest a removal then reinstall in case something else is wrong. If you do do a reinstall check that FSUIPC and makerwys.exe have not been overwritten with older versions in the installer. Also note that the makerwys.bat file has a modified date of the last rebuild session.
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