Want 4.7GHz? assemble two H100 radiators in series.....no delidding necessary!

 

HLJAMES

 

Delidding will still be necessary. Without delidding, the heat gets trapped under the IHS while the H100's would just be circulating cool water.

Depends on how much voltage your chip needs.  Also, if your chip does need high voltage, it depends on if you care that it will hit very high temperatures and throttle under heavy load.  

Delidding will still be necessary. Without delidding, the heat gets trapped under the IHS while the H100's would just be circulating cool water.

 

Agree thats the way it has been, and likely to stay. But the latest and slightly better Haswell Boards + a good chip have seen a decent rise in clock speed WO deliding on air and water.

 

Personaly I dont see the need, though I do admit to wanting to scratch that itch once in a while.

Oh ... I scratched it and it felt good to see those temps drop 25 to 30C.

 

I just returned from Lowes where I purchased Gardner Bender Liquid Tape and spread it over the components to the left of the thermal plate.

 

Time will tell if this caused any problems ... I was constantly worried that the CLP would find its way over to those components and ruin the chip.

 

I won't have my replacement motherboard until I get back from Florida ... then I'll slap it all together and hopefully, just hopefully, the first add-on I'll put on it (after optimizing FSX with NickN's bible that is) will be PMDG's 777 ... supposedly to be released this weekend.

I can Agree that it can be a option to delidd if you get a really bad chip mostly for Air and Corsair type watercooling.

I have read Nick N haswell tread first time a read it he stated no need for LC or SS cooling

But now he has made slightly different aproch acording 5ghz and higher clocks.

Today a Agree with him to 100%.

The differns to a H100 and Old style watercooling is big.

H100 is a high restriction system with a head pressure of 1.2-1.6psi and 0.1-0.15gpm flow compared to a aftermarket LC system with for example 2xD5 pumps in series 380i CPU block 360 or 420 nexxos rad that is a typical lowrestriction system head pressure 4psi and a flow of 2.7gpm. Very Very differnt type of LC systems.

If you run phasechange cooling its no need for delidd it Did nada for me not a single Hz .

 

I have run My 4770k on Air, H100, H110, LC 2xD5 560rad, SS singlephase and Ln2

Westman, What sort of difference in temps were you seeing between H110 and a custom loop?

 

Curious since I'm on H110.

If a remember right not delidd @4.7 the diff was 10c and bigger with high vcore .

The custom loop water temp is only 1.5-2C higher than the room temp during load.

 

I have the cpu running with SS now.

If i have time this weekend and its of intrest fore it on avsim a can book up the H110 and

the custom loop running Aida FPU test with the same settings.

Iam curious my self to compare them , only to now the differens in the exact conditions.

It was fun nonetheless ... and if nothing else running the chip 20C cooler is a life extender ... plus, the fans, after they run through FanExpert tuning are practically silent for most of the time. 

 

As for the H100i and the higher end air coolers the price differential is around $10 ... given how small a case footprint the H100 has when compared with the Noctua and the Thermaltake the choice is obvious as well (for me anyway).

 

Just as a comparison, my computer from CyberPowerPC at 4.2 GHz with a custom cooling solution ... when running Prime95 hit 90C+ in 15 minutes.  With this delidded system Prime95 barely gets out of the sixties.

 

Time will tell if I can hit 4.7GHz stable ... that's the goal ...

CT i dont mean to be rude , i like to read your tread and second the Corsair H100 H100i and H110 is great parts for the price a custom loop cost a lot more money the best cooling Bang for bucks is for sure the H100 110 series its My personal toughts .

 

Delidding is Very fun and the 20c is a bonus, i have delidd both the 3770 and 4770.

When you get a new MoBo iam 100% sure you hit your Goal @ 4.7ghz.

 

It was a plesure to follow your build , Thanks you

You overclock with a radiator and the thermal interface material is not relavent.

 

HLJAMES

You overclock with a radiator and the thermal interface material is not relavent.

 

HLJAMES

 

Depends on what you mean.  If you're talking about between the CPU and the IHS you're technically incorrect but for all intents and purposes the differences are so small that it won't impact the outcome of any overclocking endeavor.  If you're talking about under the IHS though you're dead wrong.  Drops of 20-30C are not irregular, and that's going to have an impact on one's overclocking experience for sure.  

Ah ... man ... it was not my intent to ally myself with one position of thought or another ... my impulse was to ignite a discussion between those who know and those who wish to know.  

 

My desire is to discard rhetoric and cost .. and take a system to the limit that Nick is proselytizing  ... I do not care about money .. within reason .. I want to perform every task ... every mod ... gain that experience and pass that on to others.  

 

Simply put .. put yourself in the comforting arms of a Lazy-Boy and observe ... and possibly learn .. from my trek through the black hole that is overclocking ... and if my comment minimizes your intent ... then please ... feel free to correct me ...  

It's an interesting project.....we have differences of opinion but we are all on the same team.

 

HLJAMES

 

 

If i have time this weekend and its of intrest fore it on avsim a can book up the H110 and
the custom loop running Aida FPU test with the same settings.

 

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm interested.

 

Are you still not delidded?

Delid man ... just delid :rolleyes: