February 27, 201412 yr What an outdated nonsense video. I lost count of the number of inaccurances Sorry Martin but its true, you just don't like to hear the truth. Go and get one and find out for yourself. B)
February 27, 201412 yr I do agree they run quite hot, but performance is certainly better than my old Sandy Bridge!
February 27, 201412 yr Sorry Martin but its true, you just don't like to hear the truth. Go and get one and find out for yourself. B) Well no, a lot of his comments are actually misleading. For example, he proclaims how Haswell runs hot because the transistors and the cores are closer together and can't dissipate the heat. In reality, the denser Haswell architecture is only one causal factor in terms of the CPU's heat generation. As we all very well know, the primary reason both Haswell and Ivy Bridge have trouble dissipating heat at high overclocks, is as a result of the huge gob of thermal adhesive, and thick layer of Tim between the IHS and die. But despite the inefficient TIM design, Haswell still performs admirably, thermally, up to 4,3, 4.4 or 4.5 GHz. [Dependant on the silicone lottery] It's only at high overclocks that the TIM becomes an issue. Thus at reasonable overclocks the CPU actually can dissipate the heat contrary to his claim. It may run hotter than Ivy Bridge and thus overclock slightly lower, but Haswell is a faster architecture so still performs admirably clock for clock. So no, the fact that the chip has a greater transistor density is not a valid reason not to buy it. A valid reason not to buy it, is if you already have a 3770K in which case there would only be a marginal improvement in performance. He then claims with Haswell it's all down to the silicone lottery. Someone needs to tell him, it always has been down to the silicone lottery. He then goes on to state that we NEED to buy a better power supply for Haswell. Again, very misleading. Many of us with high end PSU's from the likes of Seasonic and Corsair will find our PSU's are already compatible. Just checked my current Corsair PSU... yep fully compatible. He also claims that because Ivy Bridge can overclock higher than Haswell it out preforms it. What he does here, is totally ignore the fact that Haswell is a 10% faster architecture. So, as said earlier, despite the fact that it may not overclock as high, clock for clock it's still faster than Ivy Bridge.
February 27, 201412 yr Sorry Martin but its true, you just don't like to hear the truth. Go and get one and find out for yourself. B) It's not true. I have one, works fine. Might not be the best overclocker, but an extra 200Mhz only equates to 2fps or so, so not a big deal. Temps are fine. Cheers,John TavendaleTextures by Tavers - https://www.facebook.com/texturesbytavers
February 28, 201412 yr It's not true. I have one, works fine. Might not be the best overclocker, but an extra 200Mhz only equates to 2fps or so, so not a big deal. Temps are fine. Precisely John! And given that the Haswell architecture is faster than Ivy Bridge, it more than compensates for the minor reduction in terms of overclock. And as you said, even if it didn't, that 100-200 MHz equates to such a miniscule increase in frame rate it's not even worth mentioning. Another example of how misleading that video is... He claims we shouldn't buy Haswell because it's less energy efficient that Ivy Bridge. In reality, in terms of everyday tasks, Haswell is more efficient. It's only in regard to "some" more demanding tasks that it does demonstrate a slightly higher power draw. So in reality it balances itself out. Even if it didn't balance itself out, the difference is so small as to be unnoticeable in terms of your electricity bill.
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