this is what i exactly do for the aerosoft airbus x extended be cause i flew a full flight sim of 737 several times and i tell you the biggest diffrence on boeing is that you fly a boeing with your arm and an airbus with your wrist. because the yoke provides you a huge amount of mouvement space which is what i want to have with my joystick. i agree that i would better buy a yoke but takes too much space on my desk

 

and thats whats made me open this topic, i was wonderin how a boeing plane with FBW would respons on my settings.

 

best regards

The 777 uses a traditional yoke so your sim controller set up should be much as for any other yoke controlled aircraft. The fact it has FBW is not relevant.

Controller sensitivity should always be such that gets you 1:1 ratio between controller position and software position. In FSX you do that by putting the sensitivity sliders to the max.
Although the first thing I do on every fresh FS installation is to disable ALL controllers in FS and assign everything through fsuipc, which is a must.

Setting a sensitivity other than 100% or 1:1 never gives good results as everything it does is to create a lag or a slow down between the software's reaction to your controllers actual movement. If you lower the sensitivity and immediately turn your yoke to one side, you'll see the yoke in the sim slooooowly rotating and taking a long time to reach the position you demanded. Not talking about what the control surfaces do, which is up to the developer to sim correctly, but the actual phisical yoke to sim yoke relationship.

The way the airplane handles is defined by the developer considering that your input is always 1:1 with the sim.

Also, go with a yoke system, they're cheap and joysticks ruin the boeing (non-sidestick airplanes) experience. You don't have many options if you don't want to spend thousands. You can either get a CH Products Yoke, which is very good but old in design or a Saitek Yoke, which is more sturdy and precise, but has a ridiculous detent in the center of the aileron movement which is utterly ridiculous. Both yokes are actually very bad, but the next step in quality/realism is 10 times more expensive.

Anyone with a saitek yoke (set) should take a look at the NGX training video's of Angle of Attack.

 

They've made a complete step-by-step walkthrough of how to set all your controls.

 

They advise to do so through FSUIPC, which allows profiles. So you would be able to use different profiles for controls for each aircraft you own if felt necessary.

 

At least it'll show you how to set it up. I guess once your're familiar with that video, you'll be able to configure any sort of joystick or whatever.

 

 

Also, go with a yoke system

 

I also have a yoke but it's a very old CH and I like the stick better.  So to get my 1:1 ratio which I'm pretty sure I already have, do I NEED to delete all controls in FSX and use FSUIPC or can I just use my FSUIPC without deleting FSX commands?

The real 777 is actually quite responsive on the controls too (I've flown the level d simulator) - it doesn't really feel slow or heavy because of the FBW.

 

One of the biggest misconceptions is that heavies are sluggish on controls. With the use of spoiler assisted roll, inboard and outboard ailerons, heavies are nimble and responsive. When I flew the C-141B, it was sluggish at slow speeds as it only had ailerons. It was like flying a Mack truck. The DC10 was just as maneuverable as the Gulfstreams I currently fly. The 10 was very easy to over control. The hardest thing to simulate is the rigidness of the yoke. Modern heavies are so responsive that artificial feel springs and cartridges were added to simulate air loads and prevent over controlling. This was most notable during air refueling when I flew KC10s. New guys would use so much input and their arms would get so tired that they couldn't maintain position after contact. I refueled just using finger tip pressure as she was nimble. If guys/gals can manage, I recommend getting a PFC type yoke. It's not as rigid as the real yoke but it's close and has the proper feel.

I just configured FSUIPC for everything.  Aileron, elevator, rudder, throttle, toe brakes etc and it seems decent.  Way better than the default FSX stuff.  Love that power graph.  

I'm afraid I disagree completely with this view.  Reducing FSX control sensitivity adds lag to the flight model by slowing down control inputs.  That actually makes controlling the sim more difficult and less realistic.  It doesn't reduce sensitivity as such, just delays the effect of control inputs.

 

My advice would be to set all axis sensitivities to 100% and learn to control the sim with small stick or yoke movements. Only use large deflections if you really need them. Once you learn this technique, which mirrors real flight control inputs, this results in a much more realistic simulation experience.

 

Kevin-

 

I wish for you that one day you get a chance to fly a real 744...

 

There roll control is nothing like what simmers experience due to the hydraulic  controls- and pitch control is anything but precise if you have the A/T engaged in even mildly unstable air... (or if you are one of those who likes to constaly adjust the power manually...  the 400 will cure you of that habit...  LOL)

 

Aircraft that have direct cables controlling the input response smoothly and deliberately- that is very hard to accomplish with hydraulic controls.

 

The 777 comes VERY VERY close- but even there you can feel a tiny bit of latency.

Kevin-

 

I wish for you that one day you get a chance to fly a real 744...

 

There roll control is nothing like what simmers experience due to the hydraulic controls- and pitch control is anything but precise if you have the A/T engaged in even mildly unstable air... (or if you are one of those who likes to constaly adjust the power manually... the 400 will cure you of that habit... LOL)

 

Aircraft that have direct cables controlling the input response smoothly and deliberately- that is very hard to accomplish with hydraulic controls.

 

The 777 comes VERY VERY close- but even there you can feel a tiny bit of latency.

Hi Robert,

 

I've flown 744 and 747 Classic full flight sims on many occasions as part of my job, so I've come as close as I possibly can to the real thing. I do understand very well the dynamics of such aircraft.

 

My view is if you and your team have got as close as you can with the FSX FDE it's not right to mess that up by adding lag in the controls.