Well seems still to be available - at least Lufthansa Cargo has ADFs installed on their 777 Freighters - and they are fresh off the manufacturing line

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=556812584410531&set=a.169311429827317.40425.165431893548604&type=1&theater (->ADF L and ADF R in the NAV RAD page are there)

 

 

 

This is a great video for Lufthansa Cargo. Can a professional look at it and tell if the PMDG panel config is accurate or what needs to be changed? Only thing I can see so far is the GEC airplane does not have an angle of attack indicator on the top right of the PFD

This is a great video for Lufthansa Cargo. Can a professional look at it and tell if the PMDG panel config is accurate or what needs to be changed? Only thing I can see so far is the GEC airplane does not have an angle of attack indicator on the top right of the PFD

 

Hi,

 

LHCAG also has a "CON" position on the engine start switches and a kitchen stop-watch fitted. I just had a quick glance at it.

 

 

BR,

Gustavo

 

[Edited for typo]

Hi,

 

LHCAG also has a "CON" position on the engine start switches and a kitchen stop-watch fitted. I just had a quick glance at it.

 

 

BR,

Gustavo

 

[Edited for typo]

 

What about the altitude callouts, and does it have rising runways on the pfd? Also a wailer or siren for ap disconnect?

 

 

Fly the pax version and pretend, you're sitting in a freighter ...

 

Precisely.

 

For goodness sake, we are talking about a simulated aircraft here, I don't see why everyone gets so hot under the collar because the freighter doesn't have an ADF - I wish I didn't have them in my rw aircraft but I do under necessity.

 

If people want to go and shoot NDB approaches, load up the pax version and knock yourself out - after all, we spend our time on the flight deck flying, not admiring the external view, don't we??

...I don't see why everyone gets so hot under the collar ...

 

Interestingly enough, I don't see anyone, much less everyone, getting "hot under the collar"...not even close...not even mistakably close...

 

What I do see is another example of one person's lack of concern for an issue being used to try and dictate to others how they should feel/what they should do about it. 

 

For the second time today, if it isn't an issue for you, or you don't care, why insert yourself into the discussion ?

 

Just...why ? I really, genuinely do not understand why people do this.

 

Especially since the SP is still in work, if there were ever a time to bring this stuff up, wouldn't it be now ?

What about the altitude callouts, and does it have rising runways on the pfd? Also a wailer or siren for ap disconnect?

 

For the callouts: I know LH tend to be pretty consistant on across all their planes. On the 737, 747 and MD11 you'll hear: 400,300,200,100,50,40,30,20,10... not sure if 500 is "SMART" or completely off.

 

As for the rising RWY and AP DISC I have no idea...

 

 

Pause at the 00:20 mark on this video and you'll see a little bit of the overhead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlXwMTmGSAM

 

BR,

Gustavo

For the second time today, if it isn't an issue for you, or you don't care, why insert yourself into the discussion ?

 

 

 

I really, genuinely do not understand why people do this.

 

Because it's a forum Brian, where surely a variety of views can be put forward on an issue provided it is done in a polite way. What's wrong with suggesting if performing an NDB approach is so important then use the pax variant, which HAS the ADF - why therefore is it such an issue if the freighter doesn't have one - what difference does it really make??

 

You seem to believe (again) that if someone disagrees with you, they should pull their head in and say nothing.

That might be true if you were disagreeing with me.

 

You aren't sharing a view, you are down playing an issue, because it isn't important to you.

 

Why ? (for the second time)

 

You seem to believe that if something isn't important to you, it shouldn't be important to anyone, and they should pull their head in and say nothing.

 

Post whatever you want, but I will ask again, if this issue doesn't matter to you, why even post ?

 

EDIT: Also I will ask again, since the SP is still in work, wouldn't the time to bring this stuff up, be now ?

 

How much more valid does the discussion need to be ?  :unknw:

That might be true if you were disagreeing with me.

 

You aren't sharing a view, you are down playing an issue, because it isn't important to you.

 

Why ? (for the second time)

 

You seem to believe that if something isn't important to you, it shouldn't be important to anyone, and they should pull their head in and say nothing.

 

Post whatever you want, but I will ask again, if this issue doesn't matter to you, why even post ?

 

Get over yourself Brian, you seem to consider yourself another forum cop, the scourge of these forums.

 

End of discussion.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but at the same time, you really did butt into this thread with a lot of hyperbole, for no real reason I can gather.

 

95% of the issues in the tracking thread aren't important to me. Each one has likely been discussed in one thread or another here since release. I can't imagine the nerve it would take to jump into one of those threads to tell others what they should or shouldn't do about it. That's really out there, imho.

 

If you don't agree, so be it. I just asked you why.

 

At any rate, maybe PMDG will have a chance to review this for the SP. Since it is in the pax I can't imagine it would take much to fix.

Don't bother Brian. There are some people who come in here looking for a fight and telling you how an issue isn't really an issue. Earlier this summer I was the onlly one who got a temporary ban for telling off immature posters trying to troll my topic about bugs in the Majestic Q400 because they wanted to be the ones to decide what was an actual bug or not. So be careful about feeding trolls, it doesn't seem like the mods care about them they only react when you get mad.

So, regardless of actual equippage in the real world, I was reading the manual earlier ( ) and I think I found where this issue stems from...

 

Have a gander at FCOMv2 11.40.30.

It seems that Boeing either reversed their decision after the printing, or people are getting it installed by another party.

 

Right between the two pictures:

[ADF not Installled on 200 Freighter, or, AIMS V14 delete option selected]

So, as some posters have correctly stated, there are airlines which have freighters equipped with ADFs.

First and foremost Lufthansa and Aerologic, which is what I mainly fly over here in Europe and what I had in mind when joining in to the freighter ADF request.

If there was no 777F out there with an ADF, I wouldn't have asked for it just because the pax version has it. I'm into realism too.