September 15, 201312 yr See image. I'm coming in at 260 degrees to intercept the 28 ILS/VOR. But what is this 'circle to land runway 15R' all about? My route has me landing on runway 28 btw.
September 15, 201312 yr Circle to Land approaches are typically used in situations when winds or other circumstances, dictate a landing to a runway without an instrument approach. You will receive a clearance for an approach to a runway with an approved approach procedure and once you are clear of clouds and have the airport in sight, you would circle the field to the landing runway. Normally minimums will be much higher for these approaches so you can safely conduct the maneuver and keep the runways in sight during the circling transition to the landing runway.  You may want to "google" cicle to land procedures to find more specifics about properly conducting such an approach. Following the proper procedures is critical. Jesse Cochran"... eyes ever turned skyward" P3D v5.3 Professional, Windows 10 Professional, Jetline GTX, Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7 mobo, i7 7740X @ 4.9 GHz, Corsair H115i Liquid Cooling, 32Gb SDRAM @ 3200MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti @ 11 GB ORBX Global + NALC, ASP3D, ASCA, ENVTEX, TrackIR, Virtual-Fly Yoko Yoke, TQ6+, Ruddo+ Rudder Pedals
September 15, 201312 yr Author So they want me to fly straight over and past runway 28 at 2000feet, turn left doing basically a 180 degree turn and land on 15R?
September 15, 201312 yr Author Well oops, I landed on 28 anyway. Â ATC wanted me to land on 15R as I approached but my plan was for 28 so I requested for 28 and above are the modified instructions they gave me. Guess it was15R or nothing for them.
September 15, 201312 yr When I was still using FSX ATC (with airliners) I think 7 out of 10 times I didn't do what they told me to. They never made a problem of it... B)
September 15, 201312 yr Typically, what you do is break off the approach and fly below the clouds, keeping the airport in sight on whatever they assign you to. So, in this case, break off the approach to the right and fly a left pattern to runway 15R.  I suppose you could fly over the runway but there may be traffic coming in the opposite direction. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
September 15, 201312 yr So they want me to fly straight over and past runway 28 at 2000feet, turn left doing basically a 180 degree turn and land on 15R?  Actually a circle-to-land is typically done prior to flying over the runway. It depends procedure to procedure, but most of the time you'll be breaking off during your approach to the unused runway.  This fellow breaks it off at about 1:40 and flies the long way round. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo70cz6SVkY  I would generally avoid FSX ATC altogether! You're probably perfectly capable of vectoring yourself or flying with VATSIM, which is generally a better bet. Elijah HoytCFI, CFII, CMEL, CSEL, CSES, IFR
September 15, 201312 yr Yeah, default FSX ATC sucks. ^_^ In this case ATC was correct. They assigned him rw 15 but he asked for a different approach. Never mind, i did't see the screenshot. Naif Almazroa My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Youmou0205
September 15, 201312 yr In this case ATC was correct. They assigned him rw 15 but he asked for a different approach. Â No, ATC was wrong because he did ask for 28 but even though ATC told him that was okay (see at the top of his screenshots, where ATC seems to go along with 28) they wanted him to land on 15R anyway! This happened a lot whenever I requestd another approach: ATC would say yes but in the end thet told me to land on the runway they assigned me at first. FSX ATC still sucks LOL
September 15, 201312 yr No, i am sorry to say in your case your wrong. When ATC assigns you to a runway and you want to change it , First, ask for runway change which is option 1 and then before requesting it ask for approach to the same runway which option 2. Then ask for both whcih will be option 1. Otherwise ATC thinks you want to keep the same approach but different runway. Naif Almazroa My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Youmou0205
September 15, 201312 yr No, i am sorry to say in your case your wrong. When ATC assigns you to a runway and you want to change it , First, ask for runway change which is option 1 and then before requesting it ask for approach to the same runway which option 2. Then ask for both whcih will be option 1. Otherwise ATC thinks you want to keep the same approach but different runway. Â Ah, yes, I now do remember getting some complicated options to get things done way back then: could well be indeed that VeryBumpy didn't select all the right choices. Okay, FSX ATC sucks a little bit less. ^_^ Â (BTW I only use FSX ATC for VFR flights nowadays for which it is great: the biggest problem with FSX ATC and airliners was the constant change of heading (vectoring you all over the country) and the constant handing over to other controllers.)
September 15, 201312 yr Ah, yes, I now do remember getting some complicated options to get things done way back then: could well be indeed that VeryBumpy didn't select all the right choices. Okay, FSX ATC sucks a little bit less. ^_^ Â (BTW I only use FSX ATC for VFR flights nowadays for which it is great: the biggest problem with FSX ATC and airliners was the constant change of heading (vectoring you all over the country) and the constant handing over to other controllers.) I agree with you regarding the constant vectoring. As for the constant handing over to other controllers, it is a reflection to real world in 2006 when it came out. If you check the real world atc centers coverage, you will see that true to the real world. Naif Almazroa My Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Youmou0205
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