16:10 aspect ratio monitor and PMDG 777

[777simmer 117]

Here are my first experiments with Nvidia 2D surround.

Resolution 3x1200x1920 (3600x1920)
So the displays are in portait mode (vertical) The goal of this experiment is to get a view that allows looking at the runway through the fwd windscreen and looking at the PFD and ND and Engine instruments at the same time.
And that at 100% zoom, as it is the only zoom level at which one can correctly judge height, distance from runway and speed over ground!

Even with this setup, seeing all at the same time is still not possible in on view.
(But that is considered unrealistic by some anyway)

HOWEVER!

What I could imagine working very well with this setup is track IR!

Just look at the two screenshots I made from the copilots seat while established on an ILS.
with track IR you could look up though the windscreen and look down again for your instrument scan.
Pretty realistic :-)

You can do that on a single monitor as well of course...BUT....

Now the vertical travel required is less because the monitors display more vertically and that means less stuff flying by over the screen (something i find very annoying).
You dont have to move your head up and down as far as with monitors horizontal (landscape) due to the hight of these 24" monitors :-) And one can maybe do this without having to role ones eyes back up with head tilted down!

Remeber when you tilt your head down to look down, you have to roll your eyes back up otherwise you are not looking at your monitor, but at its base or worse at your feet.

Now when you tilt your head down, you are looking at the bottom 1/3 of the monitor where the PFD/ND appear.
And when you look up towards the upper 1/3 of the monitor you see the runway and its environment appear through the windscreen again.

Now I still have to actually try with track IR, but I think it looks promessing.

Unless one is bothered by the edges of the monitors that sometimes cut my ND in half. Remember, you have to imagine a few pretty wide monitor edges cutting this view in three pieces!

This is not one monitor, theese are three vertical monitors!

FSX eyepoint moving around during acceleration and turns caused my ÜFD/ND moving around. This reasulted the displays being cut in half in some circumstances...but i think I can fix that with a Momentum=No entry in the aircraft.cfg (I have to go through my notes there).

Standby, pics uploading now.

 

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FO views looking up and down (with thumb switch, not track IR yet)

[bpcw001 22]

16:10 all the way. Running on a 1920x1200 EIZO and absolutely love it.

16:9 is a pain for anything else than maybe watching videos.

[777simmer 117]

Oh, and here is a screenshot from the center position in the VC.

You can compare this to the screenshots I posted on page 1 of this thread to get an idea what you see with 3x1200x1920 displays in portrait mode compared to a single 1920x1200.

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[777simmer 117]

Pics were made smaller and attached again!

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Rob--the image posting rules require uploaded images to be no more than 1600 pixels wide, and no more than 400K image weight.  Your reposted images were 3600 pixels wide...please reformat accordingly.

 

Regards

[777simmer 117]

Rob--the image posting rules require uploaded images to be no more than 1600 pixels wide, and no more than 400K image weight.  Your reposted images were 3600 pixels wide...please reformat accordingly.

 

Regards

Yes initially they were.

 

So I took a look at the posting guide and made them smaller as required.

And since is did this within minutes after they were deleted the first time, I was able to reinsert them in the same messages above (edit).

 

The ones you deleted the second time around were 1400pix wide (reduced in windows Paint) and less then 300k weight!

 

It is really too bad you deleted them again without looking at their new size.

Now I can not edit those messages anymore :-(

 

Maybe you can put them back in?

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Rob;

 

  The forum software reported them as 3600x1920 both the first time and second time around, although the total file size was much smaller the second time.

 

  Edit: I can't recover them...you can, however, post a properly-sized image in a new post if you'd like. 

 

Regards

[777simmer 117]

Rob;

 

  The forum software reported them as 3600x1920 both the first time and second time around, although the total file size was much smaller the second time.

 

  Edit: I can't recover them...you can, however, post a properly-sized image in a new post if you'd like. 

 

Regards

ok, will do. Thx

 

EDIT: you know what, maybe the software forum reports the title of my pics (which is 3600x1920 copilot seat).

[777simmer 117]

The first two pics belong to post 31.

 

1400pixels wide, both less than 400KB

And the 3rd pic belongs to post #33

 

1400 pixels wide, less than 400KB.

 

[777simmer 117]

For those interested,

 

I finished testing with Nvidia surround in portrait mode (3600x1920)

It works well and is easy to setup.

Perfect for aircraft that do not come with 2D panels as it allows you to see a huge part of the cockpit. Primary flight instruments + engine instruments + outide through the fwd windscreen and that at zoom 100%

 

This means I can fly with only one window open and in full screen mode.

And that in turn means I can have butter smooth 1/2Vsync working (only works in full screen mode)

 

However,

I find this solution not perfect for the 777 because it cuts the ND in half at zoom 100%.

(I was sitting on the copilots side).

For this reason in the 777 I prefer to use the popup PFD/ND/EICAS on a 2nd and 3rd monitor and the VC behind those monitors on a large 46" TV.

 

best regards.

[Gabriel Teles 172]

Just as a side note...

 

I like the 16:10 format of a 1920x1200 monitor better as well. I just looks more balanced optically.....I dont know how else to describe it.

 

This was pretty interesting to read -- 16:10 format is closer to the golden ratio than 16:9. So it's actually not strange that it looks more optically balanced to you (or anyone). 

[777simmer 117]

Just as a side note...

 

 

 

This was pretty interesting to read -- 16:10 format is closer to the golden ratio than 16:9. So it's actually not strange that it looks more optically balanced to you (or anyone).

 

Hey yes, neat. Guess I am not crazy after all :-) Never heard of that but that would be the reason yes.

[thomamaxi 0]

Hello,

 

I am really confused. I have a large monitor 40 inch. I run FSX with a Geforce 780  resolutoion 1920 x 1080 but what aspect ratio should I use? I am really confused.

 

Paul

[Bob Scott 7,721]

Hello,

 

I am really confused. I have a large monitor 40 inch. I run FSX with a Geforce 780  resolutoion 1920 x 1080 but what aspect ratio should I use? I am really confused.

 

Paul

1920 x 1080 is a 16:9 aspect ratio format

 

regards

[thomamaxi 0]

Thank you Bob. Have a nice day!

 

Paul