October 3, 201312 yr Hello folks, As you aware, PMDG recommends a 16:10 aspect ratio monitor for its 777. Since I am using an old LCD 32" TV with 16:9 aspect ratio and forced to buy new TV due to some technical issues, can someone advise the availability of 32" HDTV with an aspect ratio of 16:10 or this pic size applicable only to PC monitors? More info and helps regarding this will be highly appreciated.
October 3, 201312 yr HDTVs are all 16:9...you'll need a monitor to get a 16:10 AR screen. Cheers Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 3, 201312 yr Author Thank you for your reply. What are the big sizes of a 16:10 monitors? Is there for example a 32"size of it or bigger?
October 3, 201312 yr Thank you for your reply. What are the big sizes of a 16:10 monitors? Is there for example a 32"size of it or bigger? I use a pair of 30" 2560x1600 Dell 16:10 IPS monitors. There may be larger 16:10 monitors out there, but I am not familiar with them. Cheers Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 3, 201312 yr Your choice of 16:10 monitors is VERY limited these days. I'm afraid the 16:9 '1080' nonsense has taken over the PC monitor space as well. I have a HP ZR30w 30 inch @ 2560x1600 which is 16:10 My kids have a fairly good (it was cheap) Hanns G 27" moitor at 1920x1200 which is also 16:10 format. Other than these two plus the Dell mentioned above, I haven't seen any other 16:10 format monitors around at all. Having said that I think there are some at places like Monoprice that are Korean made. Glenn Ryzen 3700X, X570 Pro Wifi, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, Nvidia Titan Xp "Galactic Empire", RM750x PSU, H700 case, 2x NVMe M2 SSD, 1x SATA SSD
October 3, 201312 yr Hello folks, As you aware, PMDG recommends a 16:10 aspect ratio monitor for its 777. Since I am using an old LCD 32" TV with 16:9 aspect ratio and forced to buy new TV due to some technical issues, can someone advise the availability of 32" HDTV with an aspect ratio of 16:10 or this pic size applicable only to PC monitors? More info and helps regarding this will be highly appreciated. Are you sure you are interperting PMDG's recommendations correctly? On their product page they say: "Monitor: Widescreen 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio highly recommended". http://www.precisionmanuals.com/pages/product/777LRF.html I would interperate this as meaning both 16:9 and16:10 are highly recommended. The inference would be that the older 4:3 format is not recommended. I prefer 16:10 myself but up to a point a big 16:9 will usually be a better visual experience than a smaller 16:10. gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
October 3, 201312 yr Author I use a pair of 30" 2560x1600 Dell 16:10 IPS monitors. There may be larger 16:10 monitors out there, but I am not familiar with them. Cheers Sounds good. I will look for it. Thx a lot Your choice of 16:10 monitors is VERY limited these days. I'm afraid the 16:9 '1080' nonsense has taken over the PC monitor space as well. I have a HP ZR30w 30 inch @ 2560x1600 which is 16:10 My kids have a fairly good (it was cheap) Hanns G 27" moitor at 1920x1200 which is also 16:10 format. Other than these two plus the Dell mentioned above, I haven't seen any other 16:10 format monitors around at all. Having said that I think there are some at places like Monoprice that are Korean made. Yes I just realised that 16:9 are commonly used by TV manufacturers. And there should be a reason behind. Thx Are you sure you are interperting PMDG's recommendations correctly? On their product page they say: "Monitor: Widescreen 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio highly recommended". http://www.precisionmanuals.com/pages/product/777LRF.html I would interperate this as meaning both 16:9 and16:10 are highly recommended. The inference would be that the older 4:3 format is not recommended. I prefer 16:10 myself but up to a point a big 16:9 will usually be a better visual experience than a smaller 16:10. gb. This is written under the "Minimum" topic. If you look at "Recommended" topic you will only see the 16:10. Thx
October 3, 201312 yr This is written under the "Minimum" topic. If you look at "Recommended" topic you will only see the 16:10. Thx Ok, sorry missed that. Does anyone know the basis for that recommendation? Do the cockpit gauges look sharper at 16:10? gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
October 3, 201312 yr I am using a Sony 46inch TV 16:9 No problems here. Beautifully sharp and BIG :-) I dont see how there would be a difference between a 16:9 and 16:10 monitor? Afraid of deformed instruments like square things not being square or round things being oval? As long as the resolution is 1920x1080 things will be fine. (just dont buy 1920x1200! I have one of those here as well and that is not ideal in my opinion) Rob Robson
October 3, 201312 yr Maybe I am mistaken, but a virtual cockpit looks fine on any sreen format, unlike the 2D cockpit. So, the cockpit gauge looking sharp is not a matter of 16.10 or 16.9, but will depend on the resolution. As it has been said above, this 16.9 trend is nonsense on a computer (unless you only use it to watch money) and it makes more sense to use a 16.10 for flightsim. Happy flying, Olivier
October 3, 201312 yr Its purely about having more vertical height. 16:9 is like looking through a letter box. Where a 16:9 screen typically is 1920 wide x 1080 high, a 16:10 screen would have to be 1920 wide x 1200 high. Glenn Ryzen 3700X, X570 Pro Wifi, 32GB 3600mhz RAM, Nvidia Titan Xp "Galactic Empire", RM750x PSU, H700 case, 2x NVMe M2 SSD, 1x SATA SSD
October 3, 201312 yr Author I spent almost full day in elec. stores and could not find more than 24" 16:10 PC monitor (16:10 TV is not available at all). :(
October 4, 201312 yr (just dont buy 1920x1200! I have one of those here as well and that is not ideal in my opinion) Why? I have been using 1920 x 1200 monitors for many years and and to my eyes they are just great for FSX - no issues whatsoever. Bruceb Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 4, 201312 yr Why? I have been using 1920 x 1200 monitors for many years and and to my eyes they are just great for FSX - no issues whatsoever. Bruceb I agree. 1920x1200 is a natural evolution from the old 1600x1200 4:3 aspect ratio on CRT monitors. It's unfortunate that many Computer Monitor manufacturers went with the 16:9 aspect ratio. However, I have noticed that a lot of the larger monitor sizes, now support the 2560x1600 resolution, which is also a 16:10 aspect ratio. The advantage of having a 16:10 monitor, is that we can run 16:9 as well .. Another advantage, for me anyway, .. is that running older games etc., .. that only support 4:3 aspect ratios, is that I can run 1600x1200 with out any issues at all. A 1920x1080 monitor could only support 1024x768 (4:3) or 1280x1024.(5:4). 1920x1200 can support these as well. So, definitely more flexibility with a 1920x1200 .. Cheers Tom
October 4, 201312 yr Commercial Member Your choice of 16:10 monitors is VERY limited these days. I'm afraid the 16:9 '1080' nonsense has taken over the PC monitor space as well. I have a HP ZR30w 30 inch @ 2560x1600 which is 16:10 My kids have a fairly good (it was cheap) Hanns G 27" moitor at 1920x1200 which is also 16:10 format. Other than these two plus the Dell mentioned above, I haven't seen any other 16:10 format monitors around at all. Having said that I think there are some at places like Monoprice that are Korean made. Dell makes a very good and affordable 24" IPS one - I have two of them and love them. http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-2676 (just dont buy 1920x1200! I have one of those here as well and that is not ideal in my opinion) Not sure why you'd say that. 1920x1200 gives you an extra 180 pixels of vertical space - I vastly prefer it to 16:9 displays. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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