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Planning my first polar route, anything I have to keep in mind?

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My pleasure fellow simmer!

Yours truly
Boaz Fraizer
Copenhagen, Denmark

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hey I did a similar polar route this week which took me within 200 nm of the n pole and at aroud that point the aircraft started to gradually veer off lnav a number of times I had to correct using hdg select each time and as soon as the track started to lead away from the pole this stopped.

 

my routing

 

klaxvtbs

 

 

GMN4 GMN DCT AMONT V459 FRA J7 FMG J5 SEA DCT BOXEX DCT 60N123W DCT XOVAR DCT BIBOX DCT COTLO DCT 70N126W 75N129W DCT TAVRI DCT PEASY DCT 85N150W DCT NALIM DCT KUBON DCT IRMAK DCT ROMUL DCT SALAK DCT OLEMU G112 LUMIG B155 IRKUP A492 OSKEN A823 LETBI B480 MORIT DCT GOBIN B330 JTG G212 XFA A581 SAGAG B218 LPB B346 BKK

 

nearly 17 hours with mostly head wind

 

 

also magnetic heading selected automatically after 70 n and on the subject of true heading I noticed that real wourd 777 routes across oceans also switch to true whilst over the ocean ive seen this in 777 flightdeck dvds im not entirely sure why they would do this though........... anyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kav

On thing I've observed is an odd phenomenom with regards to the fuel system: On polar routes, when the fuel temp drops low enough that the fuel freezes and the engines seize, I've noticed that the cold fuel actual causes the pilots and pax to begin sweating profusely.

 

I'll never understand it.

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On thing I've observed is an odd phenomenom with regards to the fuel system: On polar routes, when the fuel temp drops low enough that the fuel freezes and the engines seize, I've noticed that the cold fuel actual causes the pilots and pax to begin sweating profusely.

 

I'll never understand it.

:P

Yours truly
Boaz Fraizer
Copenhagen, Denmark

Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg

On thing I've observed is an odd phenomenom with regards to the fuel system: On polar routes, when the fuel temp drops low enough that the fuel freezes and the engines seize, I've noticed that the cold fuel actual causes the pilots and pax to begin sweating profusely.

 

I'll never understand it.

 

It's pretty obvious.

 

When the engines stop, they stop feeding the Packs with pressurized air.

 

The Packs need pressurized air to make the Air Conditioning work.

 

Even in cold areas, the inside of the cabin heats up rather quickly as there is no airflow. Indeed, over a very reflective surface like ice, the amount of light entering  the cabin windows will be increased, and with no airflow to remove any heat, a greenhouse type of effect begins happening, and the inside of the cabin warms up. Add several hundred warm blooded mammals breathing and moving around, and you have a rather warm cabin.

 

Standard mammalian physiology will cause sweating.

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Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim

          Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator

I've done about 4 or 5 polar route since the 777X released.  

 

Now not that it matters but I also check space weather as they do in real life.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/acnetworkweather/home/space-weather

 

Everything within that page can shows graphs or explains the info within the graphs and even has a calculator provided by the FAA to see how much radiation one might have over the course of a flight. 

-Raven Harris
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PMDG - 747-400/8iF | MD11/F | BAe J41 | 737NG 6/7/8/9 Hope ER/BBJ|777LR/F
Flight1- Cessna Mustang

 

I've done about 4 or 5 polar route since the 777X released.  

 

Now not that it matters but I also check space weather as they do in real life.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/acnetworkweather/home/space-weather

 

Everything within that page can shows graphs or explains the info within the graphs and even has a calculator provided by the FAA to see how much radiation one might have over the course of a flight. 

 

They misspelt Auckland as "Aukland" in one picture...

Matthew Bellette

They misspelt Auckland as "Aukland" in one picture...

LOL, they sure did.  I'm always looking on the northern hemisphere, or really just other links within that page. 

-Raven Harris
Intel i7 980X @ 4.43GHz | ASUS Rampage III | Corsair 6GB DDR3 2000MHz | 3 EVGA GTX280 | Corsair 1200 Watt | Intel 510 SSD (RAID 0)
PMDG - 747-400/8iF | MD11/F | BAe J41 | 737NG 6/7/8/9 Hope ER/BBJ|777LR/F
Flight1- Cessna Mustang

 

LOL, they sure did.  I'm always looking on the northern hemisphere, or really just other links within that page. 

 

Tomorrow's galactic forecast: cloudy with a chance of meatballs...

Matthew Bellette

I did that route just yesterday. PFPX said it would be 15:42h and it took me 15:40h (i got an visual approach...) and the fuel burn was within 100kg (!) of the calculated amount. AMazing combination of two awesome products!

 

http://www.vataware.com/flight.cfm?id=12534144

 

btw, here an pilot of EK in a presentation about polar ops and what to do for preparation:

 

 

Have fun!

 

Just watched this video... Very interesting. I'll be saving this and I'm sure that I'll be watching it again.

Chase Barnett

 

 

 

It's pretty obvious.

 

When the engines stop, they stop feeding the Packs with pressurized air.

 

The Packs need pressurized air to make the Air Conditioning work.

 

Even in cold areas, the inside of the cabin heats up rather quickly as there is no airflow. Indeed, over a very reflective surface like ice, the amount of light entering  the cabin windows will be increased, and with no airflow to remove any heat, a greenhouse type of effect begins happening, and the inside of the cabin warms up. Add several hundred warm blooded mammals breathing and moving around, and you have a rather warm cabin.

 

Standard mammalian physiology will cause sweating.

 

I'm pretty sure if you don't have bleed air for pressurization then you would have bigger problems than cabin temps  :P

Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWK

A<380 love at first flight

I'm pretty sure if you don't have bleed air for pressurization then you would have bigger problems than cabin temps  :P

 

I was just explaining the sweating, not the passing out unconscious. lol.

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Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim

          Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator

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