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Nvidia GTX780 DX10 experience (please share)

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Hi,

 

I am going to recieve my new EVGA SC ACX GTX780 today and i will properly have to re-install everything so time may be on my side but in the meen time i would like to know if you will share , contribute with your FSX.CFG´s and NI settings as well with this chip  .

 

FSX.CFG for the T7/NGX

 

 

FSX.CFG for VFR flying 

 

I dont know if you have the same setup with DX10 Fixer and NI regardless of IFR/VFR but feel very free to share . 

 

Many thanks in advance :-)

 

You can pm me if you feel like it 

 

 

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Hi!

 

So....the 7970 DX10-"fix" caught up to you, eh...? :-)

 

I'll post mine a bit later today. I use the same cfg for both VFR and tubelining as I now get my 30fps in pretty much all situations I've tested. I have yet to test but will try EGLL and KJFK as I suspect they will be a bit harder on my fps, but I no longer fear going much under 20, even at high traffic airports with UT2 at 70%:-)

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Hi!

 

So....the 7970 DX10-"fix" caught up to you, eh...? :-)

 

I'll post mine a bit later today. I use the same cfg for both VFR and tubelining as I now get my 30fps in pretty much all situations I've tested. I have yet to test but will try EGLL and KJFK as I suspect they will be a bit harder on my fps, but I no longer fear going much under 20, even at high traffic airports with UT2 at 70%:-)

 

 

Yeah i sold my 7970 leaving with test- working okay (+5hours) but i quess i am not going to regret. Thanks looking forward then :-)

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I just ordered an EVGA GTX780 TI and will report back when it's installed and working.  It's looks to be quite a card!

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My GTX780 works like a dream but I still need to find a realistic Sweetfx  preset for FSX. I am looking for one with a haze effect with a darkish, deep blueish tint.

 

Paul

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i will properly have to re-install everything

 

You shouldn't need to re-install everything.  Just download the latest drivers from nVidia, uninstall your current video drivers, shut down the PC, install the new 780 hardware in the PC, boot up, then install the nVidia drivers you downloaded earlier.

 

Rob

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You shouldn't need to re-install everything.  Just download the latest drivers from nVidia, uninstall your current video drivers, shut down the PC, install the new 780 hardware in the PC, boot up, then install the nVidia drivers you downloaded earlier.

 

Rob

 

 

Last time i did a replacement Windows believed it was a major hardware change and would not open without a reinstall so i have to see if i can overcome that today 

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Last time i did a replacement Windows believed it was a major hardware change and would not open without a reinstall so i have to see if i can overcome that today

 

A video card change shouldn't trigger that, that is typically triggered by CPU or Motherboard change.

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Well It did but not this time . Jubii

now remember my first post Please

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Should NI always run before running fsx.exe or is it always loaded ? Half

 

refreshrate should give me 30 fps but i see 40fps right now. I that correct ? My Monitor is 60hz

 

Thanks

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If you set up Inspector as in this pic, and set 30 as the locked framerate in FSX - then you will see 30 in the top left-hand corner of the screen when flying (Shift-Z).

 

Inspector will automatically sense the fsx.exe starting, and will set the video parameters to your fsx profile settings.

 

pj 

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If you set up Inspector as in this pic, and set 30 as the locked framerate in FSX - then you will see 30 in the top left-hand corner of the screen when flying (Shift-Z).

 

Inspector will automatically sense the fsx.exe starting, and will set the video parameters to your fsx profile settings.

 

pj 

 

 

Thanks Poul

 

I was thinking it was a FPS limiter (half refresh rate) Overlooked the FSX option inside.

 

So far i think the performance is extremely smooth but for some reason when i undock my FMC for my CDUII and paste it to a another screen my fps would drop from 50 to 20 which was not the case with AMD. It would only drop 2fps . Any ideers ? Same goes for PFD/ND in the NGX to another screen btw.

 

Newest drivers installed btw.

 

 

Edit:

 

Every circlus 25-30 seconds the FPS will return to the normal 50 or 30fps. Thats wierd is it not ? 

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now remember my first post Please

 

 

Don't know what this means, but a video card change will not require you "re-install everything".  I'm 100% positive of this as I've changed video cards many many times.

 

 

i undock my FMC for my CDUII and paste it to a another screen my fps would drop from 50 to 20

 

 

Do you have Mutli-montior display set correctly in your vNidia Control Panel?  I have mine set to Single because I only use one monitor with FSX, but if you use multiple monitors you want to change this setting to Multi:

 

 

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Thanks. I will test it . Problem is also with undocking panels moved to another screen. Frames jumbs every 15-25 seconds frome for instance 35 to 20 and vice versa

I am using hdmi for main. Dvi for a 17 LCD and displayport with active vga adapter for the CDUII. Should this be ok? Moving panels to another screen still gives me massiv frame drop every 15-25 seconds

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I desided to make a total new and clean install but i still have huge fps drops and jumbing fps when undocking panels so a reinstall did not do any good.

 

Help please. Try move gauges like the GPS from Default Cessna to another LCD and watch what is going on.

 

Hmm using only one Monitor and undocking also looses FPS but it does not jumb up and down every 25 seconds

Michael Moe

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hmm my problem with this FPS hock/boomerang effect  could be background process all though no one is using any CPULOAD in task manager but i think i am on track again. Time for a systemimage again and in the time between here is a short experience from EKCH with the NGX with all sliders on step from max and UTII at 25%. People with ATI should read this as i just come from a HD7970GHZ Edition which is a monstercard for sure but:

 

GTX780 rocks when it comes to smoothness (and i am only in DX9 for know because i am unsure about the issue i had and when it is the prober time to introduce Steves Fixer after a total reinstall)

 

I have never seen so smooth a flight with a relativ clean fsx.cfg. (AM=14,HIGHMEMFIX,BP=0) locked 30FPS inside FSX and using pretty much the DX10 guide for NI (properly not the best for DX9 but hey it worked) but i did had some blurry or late lighteffects i think.

 

So i am glad i jumbed to the Nvidia Camp :-)

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Just a heads up - WOW i must admit this Card is THE most smooth experience EVER in my FSX history and i have not even visit DX10 yet (sorry i know but i will eventually you know :-) ) AMD USERS this is THE FSX Card.

 

here is my NI for know in (DX9 i know :-) )(Picture taken from a nother forum but i used these settings in NI)   System image time again. Every ORBX,FSDT,FlightBEAM installed and my FSX.CFG 

 

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You can comment out the Max autogen trees/building. This card will take it. Try it.

You have 2 other lines for displays... You have other monitors plugged in ? If not, it's important to delete them.

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...and also, Michael - take out the PoolSize line under UsePools=0.

 

The "0" is telling FSX to let the GPU organize and manage the graphics buffers.

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...and also, Michael - take out the PoolSize line under UsePools=0.

 

The "0" is telling FSX to let the GPU organize and manage the graphics buffers.

 

Thanks Pouls but i did not put it in there. I think it is the Add-on Manager from FSDT that puts this in all the time. 

 

I did not put smallpartrejectradius and the swapwaittimeout=10 either but it works :-)

 

I do have 3 monitors . One for my CDUII and one for AS2012, EFB, etc

 

This Card Rocks !!!!! looking forward to try DX10 this weekend with it but it cannot get any smoother :-) (Vsync is on btw and AF X16)

 

Thank you for your support

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You are correct - the Addon Manager gives one the option to change BP type to GPU-controlled (0) or FSX-controlled (1), as well as the buffer size, Michael - but size is only used when UsePools=1..

 

Selecting "Save to FSX" - will change your fsx,cfg - that's how it got there.

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Problem is back with undocking panels cuts fps to jumb from 45 to 30 and back every 20-25 seconds after going to DX10

 

331.65

Michael Moe 

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uninstalling Steves library and replace the SLHL folder with the stock version and back to DX9 and everything is ok again.

 

Will try installing DX10 fixer and se if i can go back to DX9 without any issues

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Okay the problem seem to be in DX10 mode and not in DX9. I can install Steves DX10 fixer and go back to DX9 and the issue is gone and fps is steady.

 

Should i try new Nvidia drivers ?

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