May 24, 201412 yr Even if it's the last flight. You want the plane powered and AC'd until the PAX are off. Kevin M. Manley
May 25, 201412 yr I believe during cold and dark you hold the menu button down a few seconds so you can get the setup menu for external power. Brent Baker
May 25, 201412 yr Commercial Member On landing, if I am the last flight of the night, do I need to start the APU? The 777 engines are rather big, imposing, and a little scary (particularly those of the 200LR/F). Having been out on the ramp for a number of years, I'd prefer not to walk near the plane with them running. If you cut the engines without the APU, and no rampie has plugged in EXT PWR (need to be able to approach the plane to do so), then your plane loses just about all of its power supply, except emergency power and the BATT. Not good. So, yes, unless your APU is inop, and you've called ahead to let operations know (to then pass it on to the ramp) that you need to keep an engine running until EXT PWR is connected, you should start the APU. If I shut down engines at gate and APU is off, will battery power be al that is needed for lights, and open doors?? See above...but to answer here as well: this situation should be avoided. On cold dark start up selected in the FMC, the FMC is completely dead, how do you then select the Menu page and Ground Connection page to add external power (without using the APU). It seems on cold dark set up, you Helps to read the intro manual :wink: ...but to answer your question here, because I know people will whine, vent, and moan about me just saying "it's in the intro manual," as if that's the worst thing anyone could ever do: Hold the MENU key down, and that will allow you to access the FS ACTIONS menu to connect the GPU and so on. The intro manual was written for a reason. It should be read because, as you can see, there's a ton of useful stuff in there. Kyle Rodgers
May 25, 201412 yr Kyle, thanks for your answers 1-3. The 4th answer (about the MENU key) , I NEVER picked up in the manual. So thanks for that tip as well. You are now 4 for 5 in helping me out. If you get to 10 you get a prize. BTW, finding crap in the manual is a bear, and I can't remember all the stuff I read. I like picture books and magazines with photos (nice photos - like in SI swimsuit issue). So keep the "in the manuals" answers coming if you can. 2000 pages is way too much to remember. Thanks. Paul Gugliotta
May 26, 201412 yr Commercial Member BTW, finding crap in the manual is a bear, and I can't remember all the stuff I read. I like picture books and magazines with photos (nice photos - like in SI swimsuit issue). So keep the "in the manuals" answers coming if you can. 2000 pages is way too much to remember. Have you even cracked the intro manual open? The only reason it's 90-ish (not 2000) pages is the heavy handed dose of pictures it got by Ryan, particularly because we all know people find the 2000+ pages worth of FCOM to be a bear. Basically, the intro manual is there to help you survive without reading all of the FCOMs or attempting to search them frantically. Seriously. Read it. It's honestly aimed at people who hate manuals. Lots and lots of pictures, and relevant information without all of the extra standard manual narratives. Kyle Rodgers
May 26, 201412 yr APU is really pilot's discretion if the airport has no regs on it, our 777's ran the APU non stop since ground power is unreliable and ground air is worthless at our station but you need to have full electrical power with passengers onboard whether its from the APU or GPU. If both are inop then you need to keep one engine running to operate the generator until the last pax is off (and that happened to one our 767's), they kept #1 running so the ground crews can still unload on the #2 side without dealing with the risk of getting sucked in or blown over Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWKA<380 love at first flight
May 26, 201412 yr Thank Alex for that explanation. I got it now. Oh and Kyle, I did read the manual (just can absorb everything) the pictures of the FMC are not the same kind of pictures I was dreaming talking about that keep my interest. Paul Gugliotta
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