February 20, 201412 yr Author Yeah, it is certainly hard to understand the 'geographical' element to this product (outside of profiteering). I mean, are they suggesting Belgian night environments are different to Dutch and German lights? Will each country really be bespoke? Are are they just "applying these lights to each country" - at EUR 14 per pop ? I think it has to do with the fact AS NE's lights consist of two parts. Part one are the floating lights above the scenery, Part two are the bitmaps placed on top of the scenery replicating the light reflection on the roads. These bitmaps might be custom made for the roads where they're used and I can image this takes some manual labor and could not be done automatically. This is just a guess, but from the little information available on the Aerosoft forum it seems plausible. Regards, Frank van der Werff
February 20, 201412 yr I think it has to do with the fact AS NE's lights consist of two parts. Part one are the floating lights above the scenery, Part two are the bitmaps placed on top of the scenery replicating the light reflection on the roads. These bitmaps might be custom made for the roads where they're used and I can image this takes some manual labor and could not be done automatically. This is just a guess, but from the little information available on the Aerosoft forum it seems plausible. Ah ok, I see. So from their persepective there is in fact a manual process required to 'apply' their NE effect to different areas of the FS world; different roads, urban centres, etc. That makes more sense as to why it's being sold in such fragmented packages. Cheers.
February 20, 201412 yr I did a little bit of testing for Chris (he did a big chunk of the Los Angeles area which he made available for download and feedback). I don't fully understand his technique, but it consisted of two layers - a 'base' layer which provided lighted road surfaces similar to say UTX vector lighting and a 3D lighting layer which was similar in appearance to FTX Global. However, I think it was based on some sort of transparent photoscenery-type layer with 3D light objects anchored to that, as opposed to a general Vector based road lighting or 'scenery with autogen lights' based approach. So, while I understood his process to be somewhat automated, it is still location specific - like a photo scenery product - thus his country by country release and pricing strategy (Belgium is too steep for me, but that's a separate issue). I can say, based on my exposure to his trial stuff, it worked quite well and very nicely on top of photoscenery (Blue Sky for Los Angeles in my case) or UTX/FTX Global. It even enhanced the FTX Global night lighting. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 21, 201412 yr those los angeles pics are jaw dropping, is this what you tested? someone asked to see NE with photorealhere is Night Environment 3D lights, with MegaSceneryX SoCal Photoreal and their included night texture (my hometown L.A. area shown) this set of pics are with NE 3D lights, NE night textures, over MegaSceneryX SoCal Photoreal (with MegaSceneryX night textures disabled) Dusk Day Dawn Night Night with Objects
February 21, 201412 yr NE Netherlands has just been released, too. And so has been a NE Berlin demo: http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/79065-night-environment-berlin-demo-free-released/ Edited February 21, 201412 yr by olli4740 What happened to AVSIM
February 23, 201412 yr found this on youtube Aerosoft Night Environment Belgium for FSX : Test Landings at EBBR Edited February 23, 201412 yr by kninja
February 23, 201412 yr Screenshots before and after to see difference might sell product better. Still seems pricy though.
February 23, 201412 yr Screenshots before and after to see difference might sell product better. Still seems pricy though. Assuming you're using this with photo-scenery (which I believe is it's intended user market) then the before is just darkness. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
February 27, 201412 yr AeroSoft Night Environment change of plan http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/79177-night-environment-change-of-plan/
February 27, 201412 yr Plus, the Berlin demo has been updated (like in "improved"). Just re-download from the link provided above. What happened to AVSIM
February 27, 201412 yr Use Belgium 2012 photoscenery icw NE Belgium and you"ll have a great looking scenery. Chris has done a magnificent job on the nightlighting. Also his NE Netherlands adds a lot to realism and can also be used with NL2000. Don't forget to download the switchtool to switch the default NL2000 nightlighting offerte. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
March 1, 201412 yr Author Use Belgium 2012 photoscenery icw NE Belgium and you"ll have a great looking scenery. Chris has done a magnificent job on the nightlighting. Also his NE Netherlands adds a lot to realism and can also be used with NL2000. Don't forget to download the switchtool to switch the default NL2000 nightlighting offerte. Gerard, Where can I download this switch tool? Regards, Frank van der Werff
March 1, 201412 yr Look for the Aerosoft NE NL forum topic. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
March 1, 201412 yr Author Look for the Aerosoft NE NL forum topic. Found it! Thanks! Regards, Frank van der Werff
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